she was a lil bit of a caricatured type, but i lold
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
my main hope for this show is that it doesn't get too relationshipy and mostly goes for the lols, might be wishful thinking
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
i think relationships and lols will both be in short supply
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
ok
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
lots of uncomfortable hipster sex though
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
also was it on this thread that someone said the show was shot really poorly? i actually thought it looked really great, admittedly was watching a medium-quality file but
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
yeah production values definitely way up from the movie
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
i thought the showing up stoned was incredibly passive-aggressive, esp since at the dinner with her parents she had said that things could be a lot worse, aka she could be a drug addict. oh look, you cut me off, i'm a drug addict now.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
i thought the movie was shot pretty well too, same (young) cinematographer iirc
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
one thing the show has that the movie didnt is extras
okay, i thought it was slightly disappointing, but probably that's mostly attributable to being a pilot. the world of the show didn't gel for me completely, and even though a lot of the writing was sharp, i didn't laugh that much. hannah's relationship with her best friend was my favorite thing so far; they seem better-written than everyone else. except for the sadsack boyfriend who i sort of love.
i didn't think the mom was that horrible! the only moment that seemed unnecessarily mean was the "no. more. mon.ey." moment in the restaurant, but otherwise i could see where she was coming from.
also, is that all the eigeman we're going to get???
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link
two years is like a crazzzzy long time for your parents to be supporting you after college
rrrrreally
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
I think that is subject to a whole host of factors
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
the mom sort of hates her, as will all of us as the show progresses i suspect
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:41 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha, i wanted not to hate her, and i was prepared for her to steal the housekeeping tip at her parents' hotel room, but when she was defending charlotte to her best friend, and the friend was like, she slept with x's boyfriend! and hannah was like she didn't sleep with your boyfriend! i was like, really? ugh.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
also i wish there were some non-whites but what are you going to do. i guess there was Joy Lin for a moment.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
the whiteness of the cast bugs me a lot
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
lol that she says she will address it in the second season
― buzza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
i guess there was Joy Lin for a moment.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:40 AM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
she knows photoshop
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
i actually have *thoughts* about this, about how nonwhite women end up not really counting as women according to a certain version of femininity, but they are probably obvious and off-topic at any rate.
xp lol
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like they could have a not white friend and that would be perfectly realistic, also they could not and that would be too, five white people eating dinner in an apartment in new york is certainly a situation ive encountered myself many times
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
it's not that a bunch of white people hanging out together is unrealistic it's that i want to see non-white people on the tv shows i watch.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
the unbearable whiteness of being a GIRL
― Masonic Butt (Lamp), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder what she thinks abt that aspect, like if she thinks that the all whiteness is more honest or provocative or w/e, or it didnt occur to her maybe
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:49 AM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sure there are kinda two questions i guess, theres what you want to watch which is just like up to you, and then theres what does the all whiteness of this show in particular mean
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Zoe Kravitz was already booked.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
heh
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:49 AM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well its also that its not unrealistic for them to have one or two (or three or four!) Friends of Color, like given the shows setting and milieu theres no real reason for there not to be non-white Folks present, and it makes the show/hannah/lena seem even more privileged and disconnected and what have you
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
the most recent whit stillman movie cast some non-whites in friend roles for the first time in a whit stillman movie, i think? and it made me think, he could have done this the whole time. on the other hand, the movie wasn't really about those characters in any way.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
my upcoming memoir is entitled Friends of Color btw
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
theres no real reason for there not to be non-white Folks present, and it makes the show/hannah/lena seem even more privileged and disconnected and what have you
― max, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:52 AM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i wonder if thats the point or more a byproduct of irl - also maybe we will meet more of her friends
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
ALSO it annoys me because theres a pretty large (and growing?) set of non-white hipster/college-educated creative professional/whatever types who tend to get ignored in "young ppl in nyc" tv shows and movies, (and in ilx discourse!!) and i thought (hoped?) some of those stories could get told here! guess not tho
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
i think sometimes white directors/writers are worried about taking on those stories for fear they'll commit some essentializing blunder, but yeah, i wish more would take the plunge. they could just talk to some people of color. but also maybe what's going on with dunham is that at 25 she's a bit blinkered about that stuff.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
There sure are a lot of boys on the Girls thread.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:15 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this was a fair point, btw, and one adamrl also made iirc.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
girls is kind of a provocative name to call ones show isnt it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
idg why
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
That was an xpost
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i think if were trying to recreate GIRLS as a statistically accurate representation of its milieu than thered be at least a couple of nonwhite ppl on the show. i dont really think it means all that much tho esp given the racism of tv casting
going back a bit but i kinda liked her mom idk its a stretch to think she hates her?
― Masonic Butt (Lamp), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
the parents are my rooting interest in the show
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
well tbf the 'parents pay your rent + lives in brooklyn' demographic def skews white pretty hardcore ime
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, yes it's going to happen on ilx where a lot of dudes post but it leads to sort of strange blind spots, about, for example the representation of women + body image. i'm not mad @ anyone about it, nor was Erica, i presume, its just creates a discussion with an *interesting* quality.
tbf i know a lot of ilx women are just not that into the premise of this show, so.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i don't think the mom hates her, either. maybe a little bit at moments but everyone's mom hates them sometimes!
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
haha it is kinda funny that a bunch of dudes talking about this show end up getting in a fight about mom
― max, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
if this show were called 'life and lols in brooklyn 2012' it would not be an issue that mostly guys are watching it but instead it was called 'girls' cause judd apatow suggested it
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
maybe girls just arent posting to this thread because they r bad at bittorrent
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
Not a lot of talk about women+body image, pro or con
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
well there was some tbf
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know if mostly guys are watching it? if that's true, it's not an issue. my sisters are both watching it--data points! i was mostly talking about the ilx discussion.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
comments are not making me want to watch this show tbh
― surm, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
some, but it's not like all the dudes on the Girls thread are talking about it
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link