GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

lmao table

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If she's funny in reality, she's not very good (thus far) at translating her comic sensibility into actually-funny film/TV imo.

tbf most funny people never make funny tv shows

IRLs

kind of hate arguments about how accurate TV is when it comes to real places
the worst is watching any show set in NY with anyone who lived there

i dont think it really matters, but its interesting to look at

new yorkers are the worst people tho its true

yeah again I don't think the fact that this is realistic looking makes it better, it's just novel I guess. fake nycs seem like better places to live, usually.

yo iatee, i remember this one time we were talking and you were all like: "ya louis has a heart and is hopeful cause he is like a millionaire who lives in an imaginary nyc where you walk your kids to school and there's nobody on the street"

I guess Seinfeld/CYE really are the better comparisons in tone here (or maybe I just think that because I dislike both) - if Seinfeld could have gotten away with the relentless misanthropy of the first episode, he probably would have.

Louis's millionaire lifestyle is as much a fantasy to me as living entirely on money from one's parents, FWIW.

fuck white people

like I can't help but think that

HBO needs

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eh, that wasn't really my cup of tea...mostly because it wasn't very Lena. i think Tiny Furniture is more Lena.

ha u just watched it

he's talking about the jeffersons

I was driving like an hour ago w/ a friend and when we saw this billboard at a light he asked me if I saw this yet, and I was like nah it's just some rich white girl new york shit and he was like oh man I thought it would be about awkward girls making their way through the world

and I was like nah I haven't seen it but I think its just some rich white shit

"I think it's like stillman's shit without anything worthwhile, but then again I didn't see it, I've only seen the billboard"

then what did he say?

he said do u want to get white castle

and then i was like naw thats just some white castle

I said "I'm sick of this bullshit I can't believe you lent me wonder boys"

because I was really sad about some shit and he came by and dropped off that terrrrible movie so I would have soem sort of light diversion

sometimes i think your posts should be in comic book thought bubbles

webcomics i'd think

BOYS

I said "I'm sick of this bullshit I can't believe you lent me wonder boys"

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:04 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

the 'rich white new yorker' criticism bugs me.

i think some of the ways she's shot eating food (the spaghetti with her parents + the cupcake in the bathtub immediately come to mind) and the sex scene were particularly degrading

that is kinda the point. i don't think it really needs punchlines. this maybe corroborates anyone who's saying that she's just preaching to the choir, but it's sorta enough that she's just rendering general shitty experiences; a lot of tiny furniture was about confronting and frustrating our ideas of how it should pan out & how it actually does play out, her fucking over her nice friend, her making bad but appealing decisions, just the slow undramatic unwinding of things.

i thought this was great!, anyway. i like the beeswax guy talking about mcdonalds, he is really honing a kind of irresistable-charming-asshole typecasting thing.

should have been father-and-stepmother. the mom made no sense

― fart bucket (toandos), Monday, April 16, 2012 2:08 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rofl, "mom was too mean, she should have been a stepmom, then it wouldve made sense"

maybe its just b/c we just did the big poll but i kept thinking about paul simons nyc when i was watching this, way more than louis ck's

also table in the table, you are a treasure on these boards, never leave

anyway, did not get the bitter and cruel and angry vibe from this at all, enjoyed it for sure, found it recognizable and funny, definitely not perfect and is sort of 'problematic' for a number of reasons but would recommend

yeah this is a fun/funny show and I liked it. it also still just kinda tickles at my class warrior itch, but I guess a lot of stuff does that, including a lot of real life.

I'm not digging the whole 'it's so true and relatable' thing. I mean, the protagonist stole money from the housekeeper. In a way, this is a lot easier to deal with if you think of it as the female Eastbound & Down. Instead of joining the major leagues, this Kenny Powers is delusional about being the voice of a generation. I don't think they'll take it as broad as that though.

"mom was too mean, she should have been a stepmom, then it wouldve made sense"

while we'd still be dealing with monstrous caricatures, it would make a bit more sense for a woman to be screaming about how she deserves a lake house if maybe the girl lying half-conscious on the floor wasn't raised by her. either way, people are really just asking for some backstory to explain why the "tough love" dunham is getting seems so contemptuous.

it kind of reminds me of that new "bff" show in that the half-hour format might be a little limiting. it asks us to get emotionally involved with character reality while indulging in broad cliches to move things along. We've got the lead's eating and fucking in stark indie-vision, but everyone who affects her life is a parody of a person.

yeah the episode felt shockingly short at a half hour.

oh god it'd be a nightmare as a 60-minute show, better too little than too much

kind of amazed judd "146-minute theatrical cut" apatow settled for that, actually

oh the old james l bridges understood how TV works even after he started making mammoth dramedies

lovechild of james l. brooks and jeff bridges?

lol

I would have enjoyed it at an hour I think. a longer show would allow it to stretch out and escape nightmare territory maybe? modulate tone a bit?

people are really just asking for some backstory to explain why the "tough love" dunham is getting seems so contemptuous.

― da croupier, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:10 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

asking her to get a job, what nazis

i mean she was not actually half conscious, as the mom said 'youre getting played by an all time player here' was the whole point, the tea wasnt knocking her out, her desperation to not get cut off was

i think its weird a parent would announce half-way through the dinner she was cutting off her child immediately with a nagging "no more money". ymmv