Mitt Romney Running Mate Speculation Thread

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the gop will still be in basically the same shape it is today, prob worse + the economy will be better + lotsa strong dem candidates

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

haha how are we defining "strong"? I see a landscape in which "centrism" will triumph over honesty about economics.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

It was ever thus -- I just don't know what there is to look forward to in 2016 besides better Nicki Minaj records.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

"strong" = "capable of winning a national election"

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

imo fuck centrism, just look like you make sense and hope that the tea party/weirdo social conservatives/regional wackos continue to keep looking extra crazy and push your platform

mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

what's the platform?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

Dems have tread water for years. Tea Party crazies make it easier for Dems to score Halperin-esque "tactical" victories.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

well I never said "a solidly left-wing politician is going to win the presidency" but the 2008 and 2012 gop primaries were not aberrations, they're the new norm.

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

guys

Mitt Romney running mate speculation thread

not "revisit overarching theories of how the political process works" thread

sincerely, Thread Cop

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

in conclusion rubio would take that vp spot in a second

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

christie and romney would make such a delightful pairing, i pray for this

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

I know Christie's belligerent, and a bully, and a loudmouth, but I think the main thing is that he gives the appearance of being jolly. And Mitt + jolly is a winning combination.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link

he gives the appearance of being jolly when you see him in a picture maybe, because jolly is just another word for fat, but when you see him actually open his mouth he just comes off like your asshole boss

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

That jolly appearance would last about a week. He'd flip out pretty quickly on somebody who asked a question he didn't like. xp

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah christie is a non starter, itd be awesome tho, he is so huge and belligerent, amazing contrast w/the mittster

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

I know Christie's belligerent, and a bully, and a loudmouth, but I think the main thing is that he gives the appearance of being jolly. And Mitt + jolly is a winning combination.

because he's fat...?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

veep choices are often asked to be the more strident and attacking half of the ticket, so christie's being naturally belligerent may not disqualify him. if I were willard, I would hope to have a veep who would choose his fights strategically, rather than just going at folks like a guard dog hurling himself against a chain link fence.

Aimless, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

if romney needs to repair his relationship with evangelicals, christie is NOT the way to go.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

I would think Christie would be a bridge too far for Mitt - it's true, your running mate gets to be the guy who gives the appearance of "shooting from the hip" or whatever but Christie's just tone-deaf. It's easy to imagine his gaffes becoming the day's main story again and again, and to imagine him wanting to double down on whatever the gaffes were. Altho post-Palin that may well be the strategy, some "I stand by everything I'll ever say" dude, but I think team Obama would completely tee off on somebody like Christie

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

like didn't he tell somebody in a college crowd to suck his dick recently? in which case I join lag∞n in praying for Christie to join the Romney ticket

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

I was kidding around with the jolly stuff...I'm mostly basing my Christie prediction on how much time the two of them were spending together for a while there, and the (probably mistaken) belief that Romney will want to pick someone who's not as bland as he is. And, as Aimless points out, he might, with some discipline, be a good attack guy. But then I can quickly think of other reasons why he'd be a poor choice. The one thing I don't think anyone's mentioned is that the best pick today (politically) might not be the best pick in August--it'll depend where the race stands then.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

Right you are. Mitt and his team will look at a lot of polling and focus group info before they make their choice, and they won't drop a clue until the convention, other than to float the names of people they think might help them for having been mentioned on the short list (without attribution, natch).

Aimless, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

pretty sure nominating a Muslim to a judge position disqualifies Christie from national republican political nomination in 2012, no?

Clay, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

One of the CNN people--Crowley, I think--said that with so much media overkill today, "surprise" is at a premium, and that all the people who are at the top of the list right now may have been talked-out by August. As always, I sat in my chair and thought, "Hmmmmn, sounds reasonable."

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

xp
not when the incumbent's middle name is hussein.

Aimless, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

that's sooooo 2008!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

even if mitt goes for a surprise & game changing vp pick which he v well feel is necessary come convention time you can bet it will be v well researched and prudent

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

yeah like I said upthread thematically I think mitt's 'game change' temptation would be a non-politician

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

he should pick someone from wall st

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

Or else K street.

Aimless, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Romney/Bronze Bull '12

goole, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

I was about to jokingly say Elizabeth Dole but she's too old this election cycle

mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

Not sure how crucial it will be for the #2 to have ironclad rightwing credentials - they're not running a primary campaign anymore and there's nobody who will be running attack ads calling out someone for their Muslim-hiring ways or whatever.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

he should pick someone from wall st

― lag∞n, Monday, April 16, 2012 8:30 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shia leboeuf?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

romney/boykin '12

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

Not sure how crucial it will be for the #2 to have ironclad rightwing credentials - they're not running a primary campaign anymore and there's nobody who will be running attack ads calling out someone for their Muslim-hiring ways or whatever.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, April 16, 2012 9:39 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a lot of people are already supporting mitt though gritted teeth, if he chooses someone heterodox they may just throw their hands up

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

he should pick someone from wall st

― lag∞n, Monday, April 16, 2012 8:30 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shia leboeuf?

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, April 16, 2012 9:41 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

respect

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

yeah lagoon's getting at what I meant. the base may full-well get behind Romney come October, but it won't be because he picked someone who doesn't pass the purity test.(which is why I lean towards Ryan as the eventual guy, though a nom-politician is intriguing if far-fetched)

Clay, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:55 (twelve years ago) link

Mitt Romney/Miskel Spillman '12

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

Not sure how crucial it will be for the #2 to have ironclad rightwing credentials - they're not running a primary campaign anymore and there's nobody who will be running attack ads calling out someone for their Muslim-hiring ways or whatever.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, April 16, 2012 9:39 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a lot of people are already supporting mitt though gritted teeth, if he chooses someone heterodox they may just throw their hands up

― lag∞n, Monday, April 16, 2012 9:43 PM Bookmark

I'd like to think that but it's also like - who is going to go out of their way to loudly and repeatedly remind the Republican electorate that this person is heterodox, remember the gritted teeth etc...I mean compared to the ads Mitt will be running round the clock reminding them of the importance of BEATING OBAMA I'm just not convinced it can do much either way....

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

who was the last veep choice who might've tipped an election?

don't mean shit

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link

I think that's generally true

gore prob coulda won w/ a less shitty pick tho

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link

who was the last veep choice who might've tipped an election?

don't mean shit

this is generally true. when you're the lead charger in your battalion and everyone's looking to your for direction, then your choice of a running mate doesn't mean much. but when you're a weak, "acceptable", work-with-what-you-got compromise candidate, a firebrand partner who can rally the base could make all the difference. i'm assuming that's gonna be the GOP and romney's strategy, anyway...

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:51 (twelve years ago) link

who was the last veep choice who might've tipped an election?

don't mean shit
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:37 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

More than that, how many presidential campaigns were tipped by one single campaign decision/moment? Would need to be a pretty close race.

I think vice presidential choices are on par with the convention speech but probably well below the first debate.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 06:20 (twelve years ago) link

Arrrrrrre ya serious? How quickly we forget the rogue wave that almost certainly demolished whatever little chamce might've had in '08.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 06:21 (twelve years ago) link

The fuck. Stupid phone. "whatever chance McCain might've had"

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 06:22 (twelve years ago) link

McCain did a great job of sinking his own campaign, but Palin was the cherry on top.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

gore prob coulda won w/ a less shitty pick tho

yeah Joementum was my first possible exception

of course, Gore did "win" the election in many ways and blew it in many others

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

yeah thats more a case of the race being super close than leiberman having a large negative effect

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

but the underlying point stands tho, in that whatever effect the vp has its marginal enough that it would prob only matter in an unusually close election

xp

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link


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