GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

HS did you watch this show? Should I?

i thought it was p funny, and people are prob making too big a deal out of it

its more apatow than it is meaningful

i am going to watch it some time this week!

xxp

apparently Louis CK's newest material features a routine on why, if you're a stand-up comic from Silver Lake, you need to get out of the game and why CK hates you.

Louie comparison leads to the question of what a gal Cassavetes would be like--gal equivalent of Husbands.

it does?

i mean not that im against that question

All Louie comparisons are way off the mark and I imagine anyone making them has never seen/understood either show.

its basically like louie but w/chix

not at all

heres the pitch hbo: louie, but w/ chix, & we make fun of SaTC - no punchlines tho

eh his 'give a shit about the world' is kinda forced and self-congratulatory - let's have people call me a good father and show me being a good father on a show I write and star in

you guys prob just cant see it because youre misogynists tho

whatever, reverse misogynist!

im pan-misogynistic

btw i thought it was roif not roy-fee

god that youtube. this person is a moron. she can't speak w/o some predigested phrase.

this was really good

my gf has college professor parents and is 24 and was an english major

the similarities end there but it's still kinda funny

oh man this show, i cant even blog abt it omg

haha did you like it or not

i feel like this show would be [obscure math] times better if no one else could ever have or at the very least publish opinions about it but as is i am in a crisis/teapot rn

sorry, haven't read this thread yet but just wanted to note briefly that holy shit this show is depressing + misanthropic. the only thing i knew about it going in is that ppl were comparing it to Louie but way off. Louie has a heart and is hopeful and this is just so bitter and cruel and angry. idk if i'll keep watching it. i'm not sure i have the strength for it tbh.

i dunno i feel like it's going for 'dark' in a way that's kind of intrinsically naive and eager-to-please

ya louis has a heart and is hopeful cause he is like a millionaire who lives in an imaginary nyc where you walk your kids to school and there's nobody on the street

at some moments, but all the body-hate + food stuff going on with the protagonist is really hard to watch, and all the characters are so petty without any level of self-consciousness that would make them palatable. xp

damn man give em a few episodes to become full humans

iatee, i'm not sure if you're just taking shots at louie, or defending girls as somehow more authentic in tone + style than it? bc a) the quality of either show is disconnected from how much misanthropy i'm personally willing to subject myself to (it's why i don't watch breaking bad anymore) and b) i don't think girls shows a more real nyc

lol ok

the characters are definitely unsympathetic in a way that goes beyond the deliberate she-took-the-cleaning-lady's-money stuff, but i dunno, women be having self-esteem/body image issues? that's pretty commonplace

let's not separate Dunham and CK into separate economic classes - they're both showrunners, they're both rich (or will be soon)

but yeah based on this pilot at least Louie is roughly 10000x better

i thought the verisimilitude re ny look and feel was v high

When I get a tweet from a girl who's like, "I'd love to watch the show, but I wish there were more women of color." You know what? I do, too, and if we have the opportunity to do a second season, I'll address that.

haha did you like it or not

i didnt really like it - ive seen a couple of other episodes i like better and i think theres some interesting stuff going on in the show but its all pretty qualified and hedged, like its not obviously 'good' or 'authentic' or 'funny' but it has flashes of being all those things? ive been thinking a lot about 'freaks & geeks' as a worthwhile comparison point rather than 'louie' or satc, like this facsimile of the real world thats more compelling for so obviously not being exactly the real world or w/e

haha im supposed to write about abt it but i dont really want to, everything ive read abt this show is so wrong-headed and terrible, idk

I would rather live in the louie-nyc than the girls-nyc it just doesn't exist

xp

i lived in nyc for ~13 years and it never looked like either depiction. it never looked like louie's NY, but it still looked more like his NY than Girls' NY and I lived in NY partially at the same ages as the protagonist in Girls (and even had internships in the media). also, i think the body-hate stuff goes beyond her negative self-image. i think some of the ways she's shot eating food (the spaghetti with her parents + the cupcake in the bathtub immediately come to mind) and the sex scene were particularly degrading

it seems like exactly the same joke as the credits for louie, people like to eat

i haven't seen it and don't really care, but just coming out as someone who knows Lena personally— she's a pretty rad person. and she works hard. and finally, in real life, she is fucking hilarious.

which means, to me, that while i hope this succeeds, if it doesn't, then meh, not really that big a deal.

wait so you think she is hilarious and rad and you really want her to succeed but you aren't willing to spend 30 minutes watching her show

so u dont care to watch this thing by this person you know and think is rad and hilarious lol xp

i don't have anything personal against her and it does seem like she's very talented and has a distinctive voice which is obv partially why i'm having such a strong reaction to the ep. xxp

lmao table

you can know someone is rad and hilarious without caring about what they do to make a living.

"i know her, she rules, but I can't be bothered to watch a show, don't care if it actually does well" definitely does seem like the material she's feeding on

Cassavetes NYC vs. Woody NYC

I do my best to seek out things that I know will be rad and/or hilarious

mad about you to me is the most realistic depiction of ny ever

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