GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

I think I like the idea of show, gen limboy, but I have only read about it and not watched it, but I am afraid if I watch it I will stop liking it

that it's SATC influenced seems worrying? SATC's only virtue is that it will merit a lot of analysis in whatever 'fall of the american empire' tome is written in 50 years

how exactly is this 'satc' influenced' anyway. four women? that's it? four women. they all look alike huh.

well it's more like it's being groomed as the anti-SATC (complete with deliberately eye-rolling SATC references in the pilot) than that it's influenced by it, to be fair

it was aight but really, i dunno that this is much better than, like, Garden State

oof

four women? that's it? four women.

NYC, first-world problems, HBO Sunday night etc

The 2nd and 3rd seasons of S&TC were quite funny btw, before SJP swallowed the show.

satc is a p good show just kinda disturbing

2nd and 3rds seasons of SATC were excellent.

This was not as interesting as I had hoped.

In your pilot, you have overt references to Sex in the City.  Obviously, you’re writing about four young women friends in New York City. Do you see Girls as sort of a response or reaction or a tribute to SATC?  Was it just something that naturally these characters would reference themselves in comparison to? 


That was sort of the first thought was that Shoshanna [Zosia Mamet's character] would have moved to New York because of Sex in the City.  And a lot of these girls, even Hannah who might make fun of the girl who were the “I’m a Carrie” T-shirt, part of the reason she came to New York is clearly because she thought she was a Carrie.  It’s almost like not only is this a show that talks about Sex and the City, these are women who couldn’t exist without Sex and the City.  And I sort of wanted to reference that, honor it and get it out of the way.  

But I was sensitive about that Sex in the City reference.  I was scared when I sent the pilot to HBO that they’d be offended or find it to be too meta, and they told us that it was a big reason that they picked up the pilot.  They liked the fact that we were the first script about women that had commented on Sex in the City and took the issue head on.

the first episode went fast and had some promising stuff, but all the characters who weren't the leads were painted pretty broadly and unsympathetically. Found it really disturbing to have the mom from Freaks & Geeks being such a contemptuous monster with no explanation.

so her 3 co-stars are the daughters of David Mamet, Brian Williams and the Bad Company drummer? Worth boycotting for that alone.

well that's not an entirely unrealistic portrait of williamsburg, as long as they play themselves

yeah the show felt very much like 'every character who is not played by the writer/director is a cardboard cutout,' except for maybe the one other girl who kind of scolded the other girl in the bathroom. it was a pilot, though, presumably those people would need time to get fleshed out.

really think its a stretch to lump the drummer of bad company in w/those other two

she is eating a cupcake in the shower

yes, bcz I likely wouldn't want to kick the BC drummer in the face if I saw him on the street

xp

i am watching this

now they are talking abt satc

joylin knows photoshop, lol

no one really seems to be talking abt the apatow connection but it seems v apatow w/the mundane misanthropy

this is p funny

this does not taste like twix

that was so smh, it's not like he even pronounced it any way that could lead to that kind of misunderstanding

i support all twix based humor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gsdsL26po

why dont u get a job and start a blog u r so spoiled

I just remembered the "I am busy...trying to become who I am" line and felt a strong wave of rmde all over again

One thing that really struck me with Hannah’s character in the pilot is that last scene where we see her take the $20 that he parents left for her and then the $20 for the housekeeper. You’re showing a not very sympathetic side of her. 


No, it’s like, “You just took that from a Mexican lady with five children because you want a fucking buy some fancy sandwich.”

What does it say about her?

I think it shows that she’s a little scared, that she’s a little desperate, but also that she’s a little entitled and like there’s a part of Hannah that probably feels like the world’s not giving me what I need and I need to take it. And she thinks she’s being proactive and she thinks that somehow like she’s owed this.

Of course it will cause her tremendous guilt later and she’ll probably confess to her parents in a year and try to pay them back. But, at that moment, like it was a moment where I sort of announce this is what the show is. You’re not going to necessarily be with this girl at every – you’re not going to necessarily agree with this girl’s every move.

bad company should be playing in the background of every scene in this show

i enjoyed the overall attitude of the dude she hooks up w/ in this ep -"i was fat in high school too, i didnt let ppl draw all over me"

hah he was so mean

I expected the Mamet kid to be like her character in Mad Men, which has nothing to do with the quality of the show.

i dont remember her on mad men, she was in the kids are alright tho, i like her

lol

From the steamy bestseller Fifty Shades of Grey to HBO's Girls, sexual domination is in vogue. Katie Roiphe on why women's power at work may be fueling the craze.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/04/15/working-women-s-fantasies.html

that article and hologram tupac dominated my twitter feed this morning

katie roiphe hologram in your living room

i dont remember her on mad men, she was in the kids are alright tho, i like her

she's peggy's friend who works at Life magazine and has all the counter-culture buddies.

o rite!

katie roiphe hologram in your living room

― buzza, Monday, April 16, 2012 2:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dominating u, u r a blogger

i was just thinking, i miss that katie roiphe.

what trenchant insights does she have for us about girls, not to mention Girls

idk there is no way im reading that article

i am going to save it for a time when i really need to yell at my computer

there is some key video content with katie how can u miss it

only if shes being tied up and written all over 'riot grrl' by teenage lesbians

then maybe i might watch it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80mdeRlbzvE

a lot of people are prob reading it on their ipads and kindles in their own universe

*thinks deeply*

thread summary for those coming in late:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQxRy30qs0g

Was thinking about the comparisons with Louis CK and the big difference is that Louis's horrible sex scenes actually have a punchline. There was no payoff to that scene, it was just "wow, they're both horrible and I didn't need to see that." And Louis seems to give a shit about the world around him, whether that's his daughters or the awesome gay neighbors who save him, etc.

eh his 'give a shit about the world' is kinda forced and self-congratulatory - let's have people call me a good father and show me being a good father on a show I write and star in