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It appears that my warranty was only one year. I am blessed with many things (charm, a thick head of hair, general good nature) but foresight has never been one of them.

I HATE ADAM

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

renter's insurance at USAA has a special floater policy for home electronics like laptops, I could drop the fucker while trying to balance it on my nose and type at the same time, destory the whole thing and as long as it occurs in my apartment they'll foot the bill to buy a new one. Of course the premium for this coverage is as high as you might imagine with the potential for fraud, probably goes up 50% every six months you own the computer too.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, actually my PB is only a year old cuz I screwed up the old one:

Listen to what I am going to say very carefully: I. Poured. Beer. Into. My. Powerbook!

And Renter's Insurance paid for a whole new one WITHOUT raising the premium! Everybody - Renter's insurance WORKS! It is good! I could kiss them!


So maybe I don't need Applecare anyway.

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

MY FUCKING IPOD JUST FROZE 15 MINUTES AGO IT'S STILL FROZEN AND I'M POSTING FROM THE APPLE STORE WONDERING IF I SHOULD START BREAKING STAFF NOSES WITH IT

BARMS, Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Did I mention how much I HATE Apple stores?

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I need to get my iBook to the shop and have them replace it with a new one. This is the, like, 6th logic board/video card it has tore through. Gah!

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Do YOU have Applecare?

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, iBooks have a quaint little habit of destroying logic boards/video cards apparently. I've got my fingers crossed that mine doesn't go batshit again.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Did you try rebooting your iPod? Instructions on the Apple site.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I do have Applecare. And mine is from that particular generation of iBooks that were known for their terrible architecture. (I'm not sure that they've improved, I just know that Apple did some sort of mea culpa about the ones made when mine was.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
my new dual G5 suddenly has a little problem wakey wakey-ing itself from energy saver sleep. I have to pull the damn thing off its special little cart (since it's about five inches longer than my old G4) open the side, pull out the air deflector and fans, hit a little reset button and reverse the process.

This is not so annoying (since after the first time you turn off energy saver), but what's wonderful is that Apple's vaunted support site (that the tech support guy from India told me about several times while on the phone) doesn't mention a goddamned thing about the process.
back to the beginning

I check my ebay auctions, go to take a shower after work, come back and it's frozen in sleep. Fuck around with everything I know for a while (hold in the power button, hold in the power button a little longer, unplug it, unplug it and leave it out a while), nada. Spend more time looking on their support site for hints: nada. Finally call tech support, sit on hold for 15 minutes, spend time going through all the processes I've already gone through (and told him about) before he decides to tell me how to reset the PMU. Thanks buddy, could have saved yourself some time there.

It seems to be working fine, I can put it to sleep and wake it just fine. Leave it on, go to the store, come back: dead. So now it's just energy saver fucking up. Reset it, call tech support, sit for 15 more minutes, rudely interrupt the surfer dude who answers when he wants me to go through the steps again. His big suggestion (guess we're off-script now) is that I need to go in and turn off the setting that sleeps hard drives whenever possible.
I get kind of pissed because I'm not a techie and I know that's unrelated - that setting is for them to sleep when they computer is working NOT WHEN IT'S GOING TO SLEEP COMPLETELY.

So I tell him I'll do that, but it's not going to work, so what do I do next? He mumbles for a while about turning off energy saver completely and I get a little pissy - I'm not paying $2300 for a desktop so I can cripple one of its features a week after it arrives. How do I make the damn thing work? He doesn't know and says something about the power supply. I cut him off and ask if I need to take it to an Apple Store, he says yeah, I hang up.

I'm sure that Dell's and HP's (etc.) customer service is no better, but I bought an Apple because it's streamlined, efficient, easy, etc. I expect that premium I paid to go for tech support, too. I shouldn't have to burn a Saturday driving to Dallas because they couldn't bump me up to someone with an idea how to solve the problem.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I wasn't completely pissed until I got the snotty guy the second time around. I can handle shipping a unit with hardware problems now and then (though Apple seems much worse about this), but when I call about the same problem for the second time in hours I expect to get bumped up a service level to someone interested in permanently fixing the problem.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

milo, i think this was mentioned on here somewhere:

http://www.tuaw.com/

OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks, Jon I'll look around there. Most of the suggestions I've seen around point to something in the logic board (and the helpful advice given: 'don't let it sleep,' guess Apple tech support is cribbing from macaddict.com now).

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Also: macfixit.com

OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Most 'help' desks seem to be the same.

They have a script they won't deviate from, and they're happy to give/force you into trying anything to get you off the line, even if you've tried it before, so that when you call back (when, not if) you speak to someone else.

These are just as bad:

PC World
Pipex Internet
BT Business Dial Up
.
.
.

mei (mei), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Apple premier business support is fucking fantastic, through in two rings, knowledgable, helpful people at the other end. I have no experience of their consumer support, but if their queue at the 'genius bar' is anything to go by, it's probably not up to much.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:19 (eighteen years ago) link

You mention Indian call centres. I think they're doing harm to understanding between the west and India.

90% of my contact with Indian people is now them lying about their name as they parrot an unhelpful script at me, and it's usually when I'm annoyed to start with cos some equipment or process has gone wrong!

mei (mei), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never talked to an Indian when I called Apple and they didn't use a troubleshooting tree. I explained the symptoms (kind of technical) and they were very helpful.

OLD SPICE® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Thursday, 21 July 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
you know the biggest issue with ipod tech support is that you fucking stupid americans arrent able to even reset the thing without help. fucking idiots, lol. gotta love that american faggit shit, man i talk to you fucks all day and about every 6 call is good, the female caller is able to follow easy steps, much more than you american fucking idiot maledick heads.
you are the dumbest fucking idiots on the planet, period.
FUCK EMERICA!

Silas Althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 03:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Aren't you sweet! Y'know, there's a thread about call centre jobs (and their general suckiness) which would be much more appropriate for an outburst such as this.
Would you like some help using the search function?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link

maledick head!! emerican!!

jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The number of people unable to figure that shit out without resorting to asking ILX leads me to agree with the Brit upthread.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link

the best callers are racial underdogs, man indian, british, aussie, black, white fucking orange users can manipulte the ipod better than you fucking dumb ameticans.how fucking hard is it for you fucks to use a product, i mean the manual/ online knowledege base provides all you need, but alas i have to deal with you clowns and manually updating your ipod, fuck is it even possible to be as fucking dumb as america is, damn you are the most fucking retarted bunch on the planet, and yes your fucking children and college are calling about reseting their ipods, and yes they need to be guided to do it, well it says alot for tomorrows doc's and professionals, just goes to show emerica is all about guns, drugs, lies and dumb fucking ass holes too spoiled to see the other side of their white bitch fucking moms, and overpaid american dads, i hope the world blows you all to fuck, i hate you america, as does the rest of the fucking world, you deserve to die. now, oh wait bush has got you dieing already, so im happy, dumb fucks, get a clue and realize you are destroying the planet, non keoto fucking agreening nazis, you are NAZI's with a 51 starred flag, fuck you bitches, if you knew how much the world hates you you would pull the trigger yourself. bye bye .

silas althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link

when call centre employees attack!!!

jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Silas, where are you from?

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree with Silas. Deep down you do too.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:29 (eighteen years ago) link

you know its not just emerica you are killing, it's the whole planet, you know, the thing we only have one of EARTH, so i figure those Taliban fucks have some sense, i mean damn even NATO can not convince you, fuck if I was NATO you would be taken out, replaced and educated, maby even educated before anything else. Then replaced because there is no place in the future world for you narrow minded fucks, none. Period, carry on OSAMA.

silas althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:32 (eighteen years ago) link

silas is from Trollville, NZ.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently, the United States has performed extraordinary renditions on all the English teachers in Silas' home country.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:41 (eighteen years ago) link

England is where English is from, none of this north american bull shit, although the Canadians deserve to use the language, but america, man fuck america.

silas althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:46 (eighteen years ago) link

wow Trollville, what a fucking great come back from someone bearing the name of Tu-Pac Shakur, you fucking ass clown either learn some disses or stop using that name, id murder you im frestyle, not to mention PAC would have you killed, fucking American. Stop trying to be gangster and just be what you were born to be, consumerist shit not worth the cum on your mom's knickers. fucking basterd, the next emerican i meet will have to answer for alot, like all the racism they have dealt out over the years. Oh yea, by the way I am white, and I still fucking hate you, its colour not color you lazy fucks, man no wonder the whole world wants you to fucking die, you are lazy, fat as fuck, and arrogant as ever, God FUCKING bless the UNITED STATES of EMBARRASMENT. God bless. AND go fuck yourself too, "might" I add. Canada rocks.

Silas Althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link

We are not too lazy to use proper punctuation and grammar.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Thermo's "name" is not quite "Tu-Pac Shakur", nor is he quite American.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't call it a comeback!
And I take after the chopra part of my name more than the tupac portion, eh?

xpost - (shhh)

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.mackron.com/random/oschrist.jpg

donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Welcome to OSX

Operation System Christ.

I bless you.

donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.postfun.com/pfp/news/graphics/gold.gif

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link

What a little ranting cutie Silas is! Say - lets find his IP, and report him to the Apple call centre he obviously works for, showing them the logs of this page, I'm *sure* his manager will promote him promptly ;D

(Psst by the way Silas - mind explaining to me how Aussies are "racial underdogs"? I must confess, I am confused.)

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link

When I cglanced through Silas' post, and this being a computer thread,I though he was talking about Pacman.

mei (mei), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:05 (eighteen years ago) link

The Ipod manual is actually missing some pretty important stuff. For instance, the unhappy Ipod face which means "this Ipod is FUCKED" isn't even in the fucking manual. I had to google to find out what to do about it. That's quite a big oversight IMO.

Also, Itunes is a pile of shite. Such a pain in the arse. Why isn't there a way to update your library without having to go and add all the folders again manually?? Why can't you add a folder to a playlist instead of having to drag all the songs in individually? I end up making playlists in Winamp, saving them as m3u files and importing them to Itunes.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The apple support site actually has a lot of advice on it, though. It's just that when you've spent hours following all of it and none of it works, then you know you're fucked, but you still have to call in just to make sure.

The thing I hate is looking up every possible fix for my ipod online so that I don't call tech support until I've done everything, and then spending hours being put through the steps of things I've already done that didn't help. And then being told, "hmm, dunno what your problem is, go buy a faster usb card" even though it worked with the slow usb port until a couple weeks ago! so now i have to go spend more money to prove that something actually is wrong with the superexpensive ipod itself.

This is the second one that's bombed on me in a year; when I sent the first one in for repair, they sent me a new one. That's lovely as long as I have a warranty but the second two years is up I'm going to have to go looking for a new mp3 player. So has anyone found one that lasts longer than six months?

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

my first iPod lasted 18 months or so: it only stopped working because i made the mistake of introducing it to a stone floor at high speed.

my second is two years old and still works beautifully. so, er: "yes, the iPod" would answer your question :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

so how have i wrecked *two* in a year? the worst that happens to them is that they bounce up and down a bit when i'm running or they move around inside a bag, which i think are pretty standard types of wear (unless you're actually supposed to keep them immobile on flat surfaces at all times).

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

but, um, the people i talked to on the phone were very nice. they just didn't know what the problem was.

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, Itunes is a pile of shite. Such a pain in the arse. Why isn't there a way to update your library without having to go and add all the folders again manually?? Why can't you add a folder to a playlist instead of having to drag all the songs in individually?

It works for me! on my MAC@!! :D

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought this thread was for rants! i dont work for apple, my roommate does and i have to listen to his rants, sorry guys.

silas althor, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Also!!

Apple website was broken when I was trying to get my fucked Ipod (which arrived that way in the mail) replaced and it wouldn't set up an account to register the Ipod to, and the phone operators needed my account details before they would do anything.

In the end I wrote a bitchy email, and to their credit they did get it sorted pretty quickly.

Re Itunes,

I figured Mac users would have it better. It's so stupid, you can add folders to your Library, but not to Playlists. So if you have a folder with, e.g. your fave hardcore punk songs, that you want to put on your Ipod, you'd have to add the folder to the Library and then go through the Library searching for each song individually by artist! WTF!! Unless I go through and retag each song and change the album to "Fave punk songs" or something.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

they bounce up and down a bit when i'm running

[sniggers like a six-year-old at juvenile out-of-context fnarr-ness; composes self]

see, being very old-fashioned and paranoid [1], i've never run with my iPod. indeed, i bought a Shuffle expressly for the gym. i kind-of figured that jogging about with a small and delicate hard disk wasn't a good idea.

but then everyone else in the world seems to exercise with their iPod, so ... i'm sure i'm just overly paranoid.

i also bought some of this after i broke the first one. i heartily recommend it.

[1] although stupid enough to let my drunk friends fuck about with my powerbook at 6am on monday. gaaah. i came so close to losing you, by beloved.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Can you open the folder and select all files, and then drag it to the list.

Unless I go through and retag each song and change the album to "Fave punk songs" or something.
This is the insane shit PC users do that makes me mental.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link


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