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I've listened to more rap music than any living human at Urban Outfitters and I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out what the fuck that even means

azealia canks (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiYO3cLgubQ

Hoo Nu Cookies (crüt), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

I know the shirt is just Racism Classic™ but personally my primary association btwn rap and "chicken" is cocaine refs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHT3Ns8YWH8

Hoo Nu Cookies (crüt), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

the guy whose idea it was to put "Lyrics (tight)"

how many grandchildren does he have

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

also what kind of rapper would brag about 16-bar verses smdh

Hoo Nu Cookies (crüt), Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

16 is p standard I thought

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 15 April 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

"it even once helped me have a long conversation about hip-hop because the girl thought i didn't know anything that genre. proved her wrong."

kinder, Sunday, 15 April 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

yes that is racist

azealia canks (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 15 April 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

holy cats. assume the MOA ad isn't american either.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i drink "MOA" all the time here in america

azealia canks (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 15 April 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

cant wait to go down the the local watering hole and have a MOA

azealia canks (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 15 April 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

As extinct as the Irish Elk. That's island fauna for you.

(We now resume our regularly scheduled racism.)

Aimless, Sunday, 15 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

I've raised this once already, and if no one thinks it's worth pursuing this time, I'll give up on the idea, and harp on about it no longer. But I honestly don't see why the left couldn't justifiably claim a third National Review scalp - and a far more prominent one at that than the crank John Derbyshire ever was; this one being the key conservative advocate of a war against Islam, and the close pal of Rush Limbaugh - Andy McCarthy; and at the same time deal a devastating blow, given that the most 'distinguished' figure would be shockingly the third sacked for racist associationgs.

Would this not be a viable goal, purely on the basis of Andy McCarthy's 5 year's of friendly correspondence with Lawrence Auster who runs the virulently racist site View from the Right; correspondence which he frequently gave permission to be published on said site.

Previously I gave no examples of this correspondence. Here's one I found using google, but I know for sure there are many more:

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/020887.html

And here's a brief selection of articles that have featured on View From the Right during that period:

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011093.html

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011157.html

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011160.html

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/022187.html

pro-BNP article:

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/013095.html

There are so many more where these came from, many far worse, I just couldn't be bothered dredging through the mud to find them. The above was the result of 5 mins googling. Am I foolishly optimistic for thinking Max (or others who read this site) could really make something of this?

Campari G&T, Sunday, 15 April 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

btw, my personal interest in this is an attempt to continue the good work of this guy:
http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.co.uk/

Campari G&T, Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

it's disgusting that anyone would publicly associate w auster/VftR, but the association itself doesn't seem like much of a smoking gun, imo. especially given that "andy mccarthy" is an unfamiliar name to most (shameful as that fact may be).

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

"it's disgusting that anyone would publicly associate w auster/VftR, but the association itself doesn't seem like much of a smoking gun, imo. especially given that "andy mccarthy" is an unfamiliar name to most (shameful as that fact may be)."

You may very well be right, but the second guy to be sacked from NRO David Weissberg, was let go for having given a speech at a (white nationalist) American Renaissance conference, even though the speech itself apparently - according to one account I read - didn't actually advocate white nationalism. Well View from the Right has on many occasions endorsed Jared Taylor/American Renaissance (most recently a Jared Taylor speech about the Trayvon Martin killing.) They've had their differences too on certain issues, key among them anti-semitism, given that Lawrence Auster is Jewish and so opposes that particular form of bigotry). But I'm not sure how Andy McCarthy's half decade long (and currently ongoing) association with a racist American Renaissance-supporting website could be judged as significantly less bad than a one-off speech at an American Renaissance conference that was deemed a sacking offense.

Campari G&T, Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

good point, and it certainly deserves more attention than it's getting

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

I was thinking that the MOA ad could be a fake since the IOC are notoriously tetchy about anyone appropriating the rings, but hey turns out it's the official beer of New Zealand's Olympic team. Good work, New Zealand.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

what the

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

That is giving me the vapors. Horrified vapors.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

there aren't enough o_O 's in the world for that

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know exactly what's going on there... the body of the cake looks like a pretty clear version of the Willendorf Venus. The head tho...

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

wait

that's actually someone's head coming up through the table

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

http://karmadecay.com/r/WTF/comments/se39j/just_the_swedish_minister_of_culture_and_sports/

Makode Aj Linde, the artist who created the installation and whose head is part of the cake cut by the minister, wrote about the "genital mutilation cake" on his Facebook page.

(unable to locate said facebook page)

Touché Gödel (ledge), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

what the fucking fuck. How does something like that even get made?

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

That's...worse that it's a real head? The photo with the torso cut open and the cake inside being red is making my head spin. The whole thing is a horror movie to me.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

okay this caption made me lol: Just a girl eating a black girl cake.

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Aaaaahhhh! Didn't notice that or the fact that she was being fed cake of herself!

pplains, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

So is the artist the head?! This is fucking weird.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

ahhhh shit, the teeth.

pplains, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

artist's page does not dispel the clouds of wtf

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Makode-Linde/92718443762

Touché Gödel (ledge), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

it's racist, it's scary, it's dehumanizing and worse yet, Tom Petty pulled it off so much better in that one video.

pplains, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

So a committed anti-nationalist white woman ritually circumcizes a Willendorf Veunus shaped cake made by a black gay guy for an art day. There are so many buttons to push here, my mind boggles. The aesthetics are <insert adjective here that I can't even begin to think of>

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

I'm inclined to say this is not racist and just a really weird art piece that requires a lot of context to get. The Willendorf Venus + African/black artist + attempts to address issue of genital mutiliation (?) would indicate there's a good deal more going on here than meets the eye

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

it is still very WTF obviously

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

My brain can't reason its usual "it's okay because it's a black guy underneath that cake" argument.

pplains, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

I am reacting to this like it is an edible, interactive version of the Britney-giving-birth sculpture

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

…with Jeff Koons trapped inside.

pplains, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

I think shakey's right, certainly if you saw it by itself in an art gallery it would give you pause for thought. but when the picture is of a smiling white woman cutting into it surrounded by smiling and laughing white photographers - the o_O is overwhelming.

Touché Gödel (ledge), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, which I'm assuming was, at least in part, what the artist was probably going for.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

I'm kind of w/Laurel on this. Even if I give the Swedes involved the benefit of the doubt as a different culture, etc..., I still can't get over the idea of objectifying a victim whose plight one deplores into a red-centered cake.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

If it's meant to be generate publicity through shock, it's probably relatively good value for money, though

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

what if the cake tastes terrible

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

well, now the world is aware of genital mutilation. sort of

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link


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