Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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innerestin'

Nhex, Friday, 13 April 2012 23:31 (six years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Female games journalist vs E3:
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/06/513794/

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:30 (six years ago) Permalink

dunno about that article but i will say that i'm kinda astonished E3 still does the booth babe thing
like how insulting and fratboy is that?

Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 June 2012 23:30 (six years ago) Permalink

basically the maximum possible amount

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Monday, 18 June 2012 23:32 (six years ago) Permalink

for a sec i thought that journo article was gonna be one of those freaky pro-ESDF things

Nhex, Monday, 18 June 2012 23:56 (six years ago) Permalink

then i finished it and was a little sadder

Nhex, Monday, 18 June 2012 23:57 (six years ago) Permalink

why is esdf better than wasd?

un® (dayo), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:01 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd assume b/c ESDF would have your hand in the homerow position but that's the first I've heard of this particular thing

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:19 (six years ago) Permalink

i take no position on it, as a lefty anyway
http://use-esdf.org/

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 00:42 (six years ago) Permalink

ugh the comments on that kotaku piece...

Sisig Steve (stevie), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 06:45 (six years ago) Permalink

The Kotaku piece made me fucking boiling mad, and I havent involved myself in the games feminism thing that much as I'm not a huge gamer. But faaark, the patronising attitude is coming out all over the place lately, every time a woman pipes up and says "guys you know what? This shit actually isn't cool" they end up with a barrage of "die you bitch whore" abuse.

My male gamer friends are astonished at the vitriol. And that makes me even sadder, that they would be suprised it exists.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 07:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Laura Hudson, the recently ex-editor of Comicsalliance, was excellent at publishing stories that explored questions of gender and sexism in comics, and her reward was a never ending tirade of sexist bullshit in the comments boxes. Comics and Video Games fandom just seem really regressive and repellent to me; not sure if they're actually any worse that other realms of fandom, but they make no effort - or lack the self-awareness to - mask it.

Sisig Steve (stevie), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Also, ex-ilxor, as she was the original mod on ILG with me

Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:00 (six years ago) Permalink

I think part of it is that geek and nerd subculture is full of geeks and nerds i.e. people who have a gradient of ASD/socialization problems.

And the Internet is a great way to express unfiltered idiocy. Like sports talk radio.

Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

i wouldn't blame nerddom -- puzzle-game geeks and archie comic nerds aren't spewing ugliness.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Probably because those are mainly women in those categories

Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:31 (six years ago) Permalink

they're still nerds!

Philip Nunez, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'll take a random enthusiast over a random Xbox player any day.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, yeah, no question there, but I think that if you want an area where unsocialized obsessive dudes wind up, nerd culture has a far lower physical barrier to entry than say football

Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:40 (six years ago) Permalink

ASD/socialization problems no excuse for being a totally vile misogynist

the magic butterfly made everyone feel relaxed (Abbbottt), Friday, 22 June 2012 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

even if that is the case

the magic butterfly made everyone feel relaxed (Abbbottt), Friday, 22 June 2012 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't know that it's fair to suggest the two overlap

the magic butterfly made everyone feel relaxed (Abbbottt), Friday, 22 June 2012 21:54 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, there's enough problems without adding on mysogyny

Nhex, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Not excusing it, just saying I ain't surprised

Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Saturday, 23 June 2012 02:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I dont think the kind of gamers who abuse people in comments boxes or over their Gears of War headset are nerds, is the thing to be honest. They're jock bullies, just like they would be on the footy field or at a bar. Its just that playing video games isnt uncool anymore - esp games like GoW, Halo, GTA etc.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Saturday, 23 June 2012 02:44 (six years ago) Permalink

uh, yeah they are nerds.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 23 June 2012 03:49 (six years ago) Permalink

unless "jocks" are really into leaving comments on kotaku articles on your planet.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 23 June 2012 03:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Actually I know plenty of pretty unnerdy guys who play video games, is all im sayin. Unless 'uses a computer' is all that makes someone a nerd!?

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Saturday, 23 June 2012 04:18 (six years ago) Permalink

as do i, but they wouldn't even know what kotaku is.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 23 June 2012 04:23 (six years ago) Permalink

The internet has made me hate "nerds".

circa1916, Saturday, 23 June 2012 04:42 (six years ago) Permalink

I love nerdy shit but I haaaaaatttte "nerd culture"

fancy poodle (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 June 2012 00:42 (six years ago) Permalink

I dont think the kind of gamers who abuse people in comments boxes or over their Gears of War headset are nerds, is the thing to be honest. They're jock bullies, just like they would be on the footy field or at a bar. Its just that playing video games isnt uncool anymore - esp games like GoW, Halo, GTA etc.

― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, June 22, 2012 10:44 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

nah ime these would be bona fide nerds

Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 00:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't know why we have to classify people into buckets like "nerds" and "jocks", lots of people have jockish tendencies if they don't have to back up things that they or risk getting their ass kicked.

frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:40 (six years ago) Permalink

frogbs are you a nerd or a jock

Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:41 (six years ago) Permalink

start a poll thread

Mordy, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:43 (six years ago) Permalink

jock'cuse!

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:44 (six years ago) Permalink

uhhh take one guess dayo

frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I think bro or brah is a far better and less 20th Century designation than jock.

Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Thursday, 28 June 2012 07:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Okay the thing that really made me lol in that article aside from "bro down and crush some code" was the reference to Kick-Ass Cupcakes, which the author obviously does not realize is the actual name of a Boston cupcake bakery.

Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Thursday, 28 June 2012 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

it's like the darkside of the Ace of Cakes folks in their baltimore hideout

Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Friday, 29 June 2012 05:40 (six years ago) Permalink

come to think of it, the rise of gendered portmanteaus is what makes me most violent of all

Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Friday, 29 June 2012 05:41 (six years ago) Permalink

what, like "brodown" or "manscape"?

Nhex, Friday, 29 June 2012 05:45 (six years ago) Permalink

ARGH

Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Friday, 29 June 2012 06:29 (six years ago) Permalink

dudecum

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 29 June 2012 06:42 (six years ago) Permalink

jock'cuse!

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:44 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 2 July 2012 04:23 (six years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Wow. Great read.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:40 (five years ago) Permalink


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