Sonic Youth: Classic or Dud/S&D?

Yeah, it can be surprising as to who is playing what on the songs sometimes, though I usually have it sussed out. Was more suprising to me sometimes on later stuff, like "Rain On Tin". I had assumed, after hearing the record, that Lee played the cool ascending/descending lines at the end with O'Rourke, but was very surprised to see that it was Thurston for some reason.

what the hell does "S&D" stand for (thread title)

Uhh, "Search and Destroy" I believe, as in what is great and what sucks.

Thank you, sir.

And what about "www"

I'm kidding

Hah! Sure thing. Took me a while to figure out a lot of the ILM architecture/coding. Still am not sure exactly what the meaning or origin of "challops" is.

it is an argumentative seafood

delicious, but rough on the digestive system

Thanks for clearing that up

dumb slang for "challenging opinions"

as in posters patting themselves on the back for ~~so against the grain maan~~

for being

just finished the SY biography Goodbye 20th Century. stuff about their early career was really fascinating but it sorta devolved by the end into "and then they made this album. and after that tour, started this next album."

also bittersweet since the back of the jacket is all about how they're one of rock's long-lived success stories and such an enduring couple :/

Ah (I had kinda figured out the context of it, but never would have figured out "challenging opinions", though it looks so obvious now).

Didn't mean for "Thanks for clearing that up" to sound so grumpy, I thought the answers were funny btw. Was also kinda decided on never asking what challops actually meant, but in the spirit of the S&D question went ahead and threw it out there.

Nothing about how boring a drummer SS became...stopped playing all those toms circa 1992

Nothing about how boring a 'songwriter' TM became and how samey all those albums became

it looks like the fake album reviews my joke band puts in our liner notes.

regarding the teen fanmail...

i think the eternal makes better sense live? i respected it rather than loved it when it came out, but they played a bunch off it in london last new years eve and it really blew my mind.

― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Saturday, April 7, 2012 4:42 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

yeah The Eternal songs generally all sounded really great live. if it turns out to be the last proper SY album it's a good one to go out on, kinda underrated.

was just thinking about the time some friends and i brought hash joints into SY's june 2009 show at the 9:30 club and lit up like three rows from the stage. everyone around us inched away and one my friends got kicked out. thurston smirked

rip sonic youth

ha i was at that show too, think i was way off to the (audience's) left? don't remember if i saw smoke in the crowd.

one fun thing at that show was toward the end of "Massage The History," people just started clapping to the rhythm of the song even though it was supposed to be dying down at that point, usually that kind of thing annoys me but it was kind of cool and spontaneous.

gave The Eternal a good listen on a road trip a few weeks ago, it's weird to think that it may be the last one.

it's really good imo, i kind of hope that if anything good comes of this being the possible end is that The Eternal may eventually gain a better rep because of that.

it's pretty solid -- though yeah it is weird to think of it as the "final" SY album. i have this feeling they'll pop up on the festival circuit in 2-3 years, you know, headlining p-fork to great fanfare. maybe i'm wrong!

yeah, who knows. most band hiatuses and triumphant reunions have less delicate social dynamics than the end of a marriage.

yeah, true. did they actually get divorced? wasn't sure if it was just a separation. AND THEY'LL GET BACK TOGETHER OMG.

the chelsea moving light album is excellent

took the time machine out for a spin today, listening to Evol, Sister & Daydream Nation all day today

they feel kinda perfect in this period. I love Goo and Dirty too, but fuck. yeah.

Dirty Goo

I don't know if you've heard the Live In Chicago album recorded in 1985 (but released last year) - it's dead exciting and gives me the same feeling I had when I first heard them... fuck's sake... 27 years ago. They're also planning on making this the first of a series of 'classic' Sonic Youth concert live albums to cover what they consider to be all the main points of their career.

I usually listen either to podcasts or pop/dance music at the gym, but I put on Dirty the other day, and it was kind of awesome. I biked so fast.

xpost - I haven't heard it, I will def check it out since I'm in the 'zone'

They're also planning on making this the first of a series of 'classic' Sonic Youth concert live albums to cover what they consider to be all the main points of their career.

Sounds like what they did 20 years ago through their fan club?
Sonic Death
Gila Monster Jamboree
Walls Have Ears
Hold That Tiger
Goo Demos
...?

I also have this thing where whenever I listen to Goo I have to listen to Dirty immediately after. I had (sadly chopped versions of) them on Side A & side B of a cassette in high school and I'd just listen to it over and over. They feel like a double album to me now, haha.

My favorite SY albums are "Goo" and "Daydream Nation."

Which means that I envision in a world where Sonic Youth are a pop band.

not such a bad world

No, but I wonder if in this world where Sonic Youth is a pop band who is the noise band?

Albert: As far as I know these are going to be as yet officially unreleased full length concert recordings from their own archive of full gigs, i.e. like the Smart Bar CD from last year.

Sounds like what they did 20 years ago through their fan club?
Sonic Death
Gila Monster Jamboree
Walls Have Ears
Hold That Tiger
Goo Demos
...?
--Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli)

Live at the Continental Club

I don't know how I feel about The Eternal in general, but Anti-Orgasm was a huge jam. I got into Sonic Youth all over again after I heard that.

I don't know if you've heard the Live In Chicago album recorded in 1985 (but released last year) - it's dead exciting

captures that moment when the plane leaves the runway and you sense the earth falling away and see the clouds surround

^^^This is a great way of putting it.

Everybody get ready for the official Sonic Youth ILM poll - coming up in just a few short weeks!

ooh yay I may participate!

Something opened up in my brain this week that has finally allowed me to glom onto Daydream Nation. Maybe I should try to squeeze everything else in there before the poll starts.

doitdoitdoit

I can't believe we haven't done that poll already!

No idea how I'd vote.

Suggestion: do an albums poll AND an "eras" poll

I've got a few ideas about side polls already, but I hadn't considered eras. I'll think about it.

A songs poll will be fascinating because people found them in different eras. My first introduction to them was 100% and Sugar Kane, so both those songs mean a lot to me. I also adore Murray Street and Sonic Nurse. Disintegration Notice may be my pick for #1 at the moment. Wow. Looking forward to that a lot.

Despite this piece I wrote, I will be voting for Washing Machine.

obv obv obv it's Murray Street

concise
clean
o'rourke

obv obv it's Sonic Nurse

tones
stones
o'rourke