obviously "great" is a subjective term. Probably influence is going to be a bigger determining factor.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
You're overanalyzing my post. What i really meant to say is that the Hall of Fame sucks balls, as do losers like Dave Marsh
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
the list of hitless-in-america, nerd cult inductees is pretty short and sets the bar high: Velvets, Ramones, Leonard Cohen, The Stooges, Tom Waits
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
losers like Dave Marsh
Who's to say he didn't also vote against marginal inductees like RHCP? And being a massive MC5 fan, he obviously doesn't have enough pull to get them into the HoF.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
my list should either have laura nyro thrown in or leonard cohen taken out
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
Laura Nyro is in this year
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He's a putz
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, my point is either Nyro's another hitless-in-america nerd cult inductee or the writer of big hits for others, in which case cohen (and maybe waits) shouldn't be on my list either.
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
part of the reason I think the cure is a lock is a) they had some top 20 hits, b) they represent a whole wing of critically repsected music and c) they have been a successful arena rock band for decades
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
there are plenty of bands who've pulled off two of the three and been ignored, but can't think of many who hit all three
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
dave marsh otm for once
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
OTM, but still a putz.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
you're not wrong about The Cure and if i'd known they were already nominated i would've been less skeptical when you brought them up. i just wonder how really enthusiastic the US rock establishment is about them -- did they ever get 4 stars or even a lead review in Rolling Stone for a new album?
― deejeridoo (some dude), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, Wish.
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
I think even Show got a lead review, split with the Prince best-of.
wish, huh? we'd all agree this is their finest hour, no?
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
haha god I can't remember shit from my last mid-term but a page from rolling stone in 1993 comes right to the surface
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/show-19931014
the art for this had the two love gods on fluffy clouds or something
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
do you think in 20 years time, kids will be able to recall lines from pfork's neon indian reviews. probably.
― tylerw, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
xpost -- yup, specifically remember that. I would though.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
The Wish illustration was some kind of dark sunset thing, I think...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
Kid Rock has a much higher likelihood of induction than Bizkit, i will say
Fyi this will be the day I finally have a stroke.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
age-wise i think we'll all be in the stroke range
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
oh man actually he'll be eligible for induction the same year as green day
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
Grits Sandwiches For Breakfast will be 25 years old in three years! get ready!!!!
― deejeridoo (some dude), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
haha xpost
Though if Bob Seger isn't in the hall of fame yet...
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
oh wait he got in in 2004
if bob seger is in the HOF than anything's possible.
― FMLAO (get bent), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
then
argh
hey
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
just thinking of the R'n'R Hall of fame in 2025*, though, yeesh
*i refuse to believe kid rock will spend less time twiddling his thumbs than bob seger did
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
frankly, with the way the music industry and music audiences have fragmented in general, I'd be surprised if anyone remembers any bands from this era. it kind of seems to me that music simply can't have longevity anymore.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
Man, Seger is popular here on ILM. He's one guy the Hall got right.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
I'd argue there's lots of guys (and gals) the Hall got right. It's the crazyshits like RHCP that make people forget about the deserving inducteed.
(And looking over said list, RHCP are the worst by a longshot; there's no other inductee that approaches them for sheer "What the fuck are they doing there?!"-ness)
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
"inducteed" = inductees
Billy Joel is in = the place must burn.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, forgot about him. Yeah, fuck 'em.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
switch out the RHCP for The Spinners and you've got yourself a good 2012 crew.
I like the RHCP but no-one's really clamoring for them to be acknowledged for their contribution, surely.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
Spinners were nominated for 2012, even.
I would argue that RHCP isn't even that bad a nominee if you ignore everything they did post-BSSM
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
(well really I'd argue post-UMPP because I really hate Mothers' Milk but I know that removing their commercial breakthroughs would be silly)
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
Kiedis' horrible facial hair decisions should be enough to disqualify them
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
I'd go along with that (ignoring post-UMPP).
xp
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
haha dan do you ever get tired of pretending as if most people have even heard the first three RHCP albums and/or that they would vastly change their opinion of the band if they had
― deejeridoo (some dude), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
This looks like it might be a couple of years out of date, but here's a list of artists who have been nominated (or "considered") in the past without making it in: http://www.futurerocklegends.com/previously_considered.php
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
Albert King! Chic! The E-Street Band
why are we even talking abt GNR/RHCP ffs
half that list reads like a HOF list on its own!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
I would have thought Carole King would be right up their alley.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
She was inducted as a songwriter (with Gerry Goffin), but not as a performer.
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Carole King is the definition of Rock and Roll. Fuck the MC5 and Deep Purple, Carole King rocks!
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link