THE GAME OF THRONES/ASOIAF SPOILER THREAD (WARNING: SPOILERS)

i either missed this or blotted it out of my mind because I can't bear the thought of lovely lysanna having a bastard.

*throws self in front of whitewalker*

ban brownie

i shall take my leave to Basilisk Point if anyone should enquire about my whereabouts

yr probably right but i much prefer the idea of ned coming back from the war and going "YES this is MY SON that i had via HAVING SEX with SOMEONE ELSE, deal with it", seems much more grim and northern

It's also completely, totally out of character for Ned "I am a blinding idiot when it comes to matters of honor" Stark, particularly when as far as I can remember he pretty much never acts like there's anything shameful or dishonorable about Jon's existence, even when Cat goes off on him in book 1.

yeah, but the reason he acts that way is that it is a carapace he has developed to cover the shame and guilt he feels over his bastard son

at least that is the case in my fanfic, a song of scones and lager

A Song Of Neeps And Olives

ned is a one dimensional patsy, intended to parody the type of fantasy mainstay he represents, thrust into the sacrificial fire as his creator incants 'SEE this is what would REALLY happen to a stubbornly honourable hero type", when all the while the creator merely parodies himself for attempting to attire fantasy in the velvet pant suit of reality

okay I don't know about you but velvet pant suits have nothing to do with my reality

Then you haven't lived.

velvet pant suits are as smooth as arbor gold

I had to give up velvet pant suits because I kept dropping my olives on them and the oil leaves funky stains.

srsly five books in and no one has even rode a dragon yet smh

you're an odd one

I just feel like, how much story time is even going to take place "in Winter" in the remaining 2200 pgs? Unless he does a time jump, which would be unlike him at this point.

srsly five books in and no one has even rode a dragon yet smh

he must have used "ride the dragon" as a euphemism by now though.

also there was hella dragon riding in A Dance of Dragons

maybe he's the son of an actual snowman

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

serious coffee out my nose moment

they need the red wedding, period, it's by far the most badass moment in teh whole series

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:47 (Yesterday) Permalink
it's quite shocking alright but probably cos it was so built up by everyone I know who had read them, I wasn't really appalled. The scene in that book that had me gasping & clutching the pearls was Oberyn's death.

re: dragon riders - I heard Jon, Dany & Bran.

i don't remember where they left this in the books, but...the hound's not really dead, right? he's with that guy who can't die and cat stark etc right?

also you guys i was thinking about it and if there's really one villain that will probably end up having been the worst of the many villainous villains on this show...it's varis right?

srsly five books in and no one has even rode a dragon yet smh

― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:33 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

yes they have, get the hell out nub

nah, Varys is the only real hero of the piece

i would call sam a hero

eventually

I like Varys. Ramsey Bolton seems the most horrible to me.

I think the dead mountain that rides who lurks in the basement of the red keep is a big enemy

yeah i was gonna say they could just cut out dorne completely but then you lose the Mountain vs Viper fight which is one of the top 5 moments in the series imo. i'd rather have that than the red wedding if i had to choose

same

i really like the dorne stuff

ya dorne stuff is great, really like doran martell and his whole thing with ariane where she accuses him of being useless & never making any choices or acting up or whatevs and then he takes her aside and tells her the truth, that he's actually been plotting all the while to get dorne & targaryens on that iron throne. sadly, fucking quentyn is useless as hell and fucks it up.

that was a real bummer

Isn't Oberyn one of the characters they're casting for the upcoming, confirmed third season?

i don't remember where they left this in the books, but...the hound's not really dead, right? he's with that guy who can't die and cat stark etc right?

He's alive, but not kicking it with d00d who can't die (i.e. Beric Dondarrion), who incidentally is dead. (He gave up his living spark to reanimate UnCat.) Instead, the Hound is chilling on a monkish isle as an unspeaking initiate that I believe Bran and the Reeds visit.

the hound is dead though iirc. isn't that what the top guy on that monkish isle said? that he'd buried sandor clegane. or did i miss something? also, it's not bran & the reeds ho visit that island, its brienne & that septon & dog & randall tarly's man whose name i cant remember.

its really pointless but for some reason i really like dog !

i thought sandor was specifically dead but i guess i miss a lot of stuff

the hound is dead though iirc. isn't that what the top guy on that monkish isle said? that he'd buried sandor clegane. or did i miss something?

thats one of the points of 'evidence' for him being alive - the monkbro specifically says that he buried the hound, leaving us to imagine that sandor clegane is alive but is no longer the hound

yeah it's very "i BURIED him do you see BURIED. 'buried'"

The scene in that book that had me gasping & clutching the pearls was Oberyn's death.

Oh jesus, quite true. I forgot about that scene. If there is a 'scene which effortlessly sums up ASOIAF' it's probably that one. I still cringe when I think of it.

yeah, the red wedding was big and splashy and but the mountain/viper was just so intense

Gubke's post about exiled houses on the spoiler-free thread is a spoiler, I think. Don't want to mention it in the thread but maybe it should be deleted by a nice mod?

So... being careful not to spoil... in the books, Arya becomes Roose Bolton's cup-bearer at Harrenhal, not Tywin's, correct? This is a BIG change from the book and I'm not sure where they'll head with it...

― til the sound of my voice will haint u (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:26 PM (21 minutes ago)

is it a material change tho? i expect arya's story will play out the same. i am sure the change is just streamlining.

i thought in the book, Tywin is there for a while, then rides out and Roose Bolton shows up after that and takes over? please tell me if i'm wrong

I imagine any changes like that are just to get full value from their actors (see also Shae becoming Sansa's chambermaid). Presumably Roose is still going to turn up at Harrenhall

xp that is my recollection. tywin heads south

yeah Roose at Harrenhal is what he was spoiling w/ that post is what i meant

Shae/Sansa thing was in the book too, it was just mentioned in passing instead of being given a scene

Yeah, wasn't the point kind of that despite Harrenhall changing hands from Lanisters to Starks, Arya was shocked to find that the conditions didn't really improve.

I think he was there but he was "offscreen" so to speak

they are obviously compressing/speeding up arya's storyline, and there is no reason why she can't gtfo while tywin is around instead of later.