THE GAME OF THRONES/ASOIAF SPOILER THREAD (WARNING: SPOILERS)

I'm not sure if Jon is going to be inside the wolf or brought back to life by the red queen. Either would work, though the first would be more interesting.

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm betting on inside the wolf first, for a few chapters, then Mels does some red magic, pulling him out of wolf and into his former body. He'll def be in the wolf at least for a while; there was way too much attention paid to that boar thing, as if to get us thinking abt it.

how will you guys feel if the show departs radically from the books at some point because i think it should totally do that

I'm totally fine with whatever as long as the Red Wedding still happens

― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cosign but add Boltons pere et fils, I'll feel mega robbed if there are not ample scenes of their creepiness. Also, no Reek no credibility.

pretty sure roose bolton is cast for this season

He's being played by Michael McElhatton.

My wife is convinced the Reeds will be left out of the show, with the domesticated wildling chick hitting their notes. Thoughts?

I hope not.

perhaps, though book-wise, Howland Reed is the only one left alive who knows a bunch of secret stuff that Ned otherwise took to the grave

i think the one big story change they should consider for the show is somehow getting Dany to Westeros earlier. there's no crucial plot reason i can think of for her to chill in the east for 2 more books after she frees Mereen and has an army, other than the dragons growing which can just be sped up

ya get rid of that shit

like her only real cool scene for a long stretch of the books is the chapter where she 'trades' the dragon for the slave army and then torches the slavemaster guy

Agreed. In fact, the thing that really perplexes me abt the books is how long he has delayed what one has to assume are the two key 'ice' and 'fire' events (Dany enters Westeros w/dragons, Winter finally comes w/white walkers crossing the wall).

he doesn't really know what to do with the dragons, basically

If he did not start the fkin series without a p solid idea of where he was ultimately headed with the dragons and the white walkers, I pity him.

*with* not without, sorry

people seem to think dany, tyrion, and jon are gonna be the 3 dragon riders (this theory also assumes that jon is lyanna stark's son and that she died in childbirth like tyrion and dany's mothers. not sure how this is relevant but people like patterns i guess?)

that also requires Tyrion to be a Targaryen. I know there are theories but that would be kind of annoying

yeah if tyrion ends up being a targaryen or a dragon rider im giving up

i thought Snow was the son of Ned

oh god brownie dont embarrass yourself

what will GRR Martin come up with next i ask you

now i hope the show completely abandons the books i want new content and grrm is not providing it

there's definitely a snow secret, the whole thing is ned brought him back from the wars and refused to talk about it

maybe he's the son of an actual snowman

the jon-is-lyanna's-son thing is so tedious, grrm retroactively erasing from the record one of the few times a character had > 1 trait

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grrm retroactively erasing from the record one of the few times a character had > 1 trait

I think even the first book leaves big hints that Jon is not Ned's son, so I don't think it's retroactive.

yeah, i think that's one thing he was sure of all along

yr probably right but i much prefer the idea of ned coming back from the war and going "YES this is MY SON that i had via HAVING SEX with SOMEONE ELSE, deal with it", seems much more grim and northern

i either missed this or blotted it out of my mind because I can't bear the thought of lovely lysanna having a bastard.

*throws self in front of whitewalker*

ban brownie

i shall take my leave to Basilisk Point if anyone should enquire about my whereabouts

yr probably right but i much prefer the idea of ned coming back from the war and going "YES this is MY SON that i had via HAVING SEX with SOMEONE ELSE, deal with it", seems much more grim and northern

It's also completely, totally out of character for Ned "I am a blinding idiot when it comes to matters of honor" Stark, particularly when as far as I can remember he pretty much never acts like there's anything shameful or dishonorable about Jon's existence, even when Cat goes off on him in book 1.

yeah, but the reason he acts that way is that it is a carapace he has developed to cover the shame and guilt he feels over his bastard son

at least that is the case in my fanfic, a song of scones and lager

A Song Of Neeps And Olives

ned is a one dimensional patsy, intended to parody the type of fantasy mainstay he represents, thrust into the sacrificial fire as his creator incants 'SEE this is what would REALLY happen to a stubbornly honourable hero type", when all the while the creator merely parodies himself for attempting to attire fantasy in the velvet pant suit of reality

okay I don't know about you but velvet pant suits have nothing to do with my reality

Then you haven't lived.

velvet pant suits are as smooth as arbor gold

I had to give up velvet pant suits because I kept dropping my olives on them and the oil leaves funky stains.

srsly five books in and no one has even rode a dragon yet smh

you're an odd one

I just feel like, how much story time is even going to take place "in Winter" in the remaining 2200 pgs? Unless he does a time jump, which would be unlike him at this point.

srsly five books in and no one has even rode a dragon yet smh

he must have used "ride the dragon" as a euphemism by now though.

also there was hella dragon riding in A Dance of Dragons

maybe he's the son of an actual snowman

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

serious coffee out my nose moment

they need the red wedding, period, it's by far the most badass moment in teh whole series

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:47 (Yesterday) Permalink
it's quite shocking alright but probably cos it was so built up by everyone I know who had read them, I wasn't really appalled. The scene in that book that had me gasping & clutching the pearls was Oberyn's death.

re: dragon riders - I heard Jon, Dany & Bran.

i don't remember where they left this in the books, but...the hound's not really dead, right? he's with that guy who can't die and cat stark etc right?

also you guys i was thinking about it and if there's really one villain that will probably end up having been the worst of the many villainous villains on this show...it's varis right?

srsly five books in and no one has even rode a dragon yet smh

― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:33 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

yes they have, get the hell out nub