itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

new PPP mixtape: http://www.divshare.com/download/6302006-1a8

may end up liveblogging this haha

lol i just more or less did this in the PPP thread. go over there and correct all my errors.

oh no wait, haven't heard that. plz do!

was talking about platinum pied pipers/sa-ra/the new downbeat-rnb thing: why don't i like this stuff more?

Before I get into that, I have to post some Jesse Boykins III. This shit is ridiculous smooove.

lol @ the vid using that played out Hype Williams letterbox splitscreen effect

so nice! shit i've gotta make a mixtape of all the stuff i love on this thread and foist it on ppl.

Hold up. This PPP may have to wait, cause the Boykins stuff I'm listening to is incredible. Like swimming in a sea of warm butter and less describable fluids. Smashtape material if I've ever heard it.

What is it with all these r&b singers using that Curtis Mayfield "Think" instrumental? Beyonce AND Tiombe Lockhart AND James Boykins III. This killed my buzz.

odd time signatures beyond 3/4, 6/8, and 12/8 freaked me out when i was little thanks to hearing dave brubeck's take five (5/8) in a local car add when i was maybe 11. got the time out album when i was about 18. became a fan.

That's interesting to me. My parents always played several different versions of "Take Five" basically since I was born, so I always took it for granted. It wasn't until I was in middle school and started taking band class that I realized there was anything odd about it.

Speaking of time signature goofiness and "Think", "Think" is in 9/8.

PPP Mixtape: Starts with some washed out synth chords, then a "1 Thing"-ish remix of Coultrain's "Angel" by Waajeed that BANGS. Then a remix of a J Dilla track from the PPP debut. It's full of game boy sounds and is giving me a bit of a bad Crystal Castles aftertaste. Guilt by association.

"Your Day Is Done" featuring Georgia Anne Muldrow. It's pretty good, not great, gets better when she starts rapping. I have a feeling she knows better what to do with a straightforward Mary J.-in-92 hiphop beat when rapping than singing, but doesn't realize this.

A warped-out sub-house Waajeed remix of the warped-out sub-house Sa-Ra jam from the debut. Trades in the originals mechanistic stomp for mellow rhodes piano. Me like.

We also get an altogether nice and unassuming and by-the-books Waajeed and DJ Topspin of a Tiombe track and another Waajeed/Topspin remix, this one a very J. Dilla-ish (like more than normally) retouch of Zero's Fever, both from the first album.

"Goodbye" A rather straightfoward r&b track with some chick named Jamila Reagan. Love the stadium claps. Followed by "Stand For Something", a duet with unison vocals from Reagan and Coultrain over Muhsinah-ish chopped 'n' skittered drums. So far I've been enjoying the fuck outta this tape.

I'm going to stop liveblogging at this point.

this sounds like it fits with this thread a lot more than the album itself, tbh.

good werk, yer reverence.

The original version of the cover of "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" with Raheem Devaughn on vocals appears toward the end. Rogiers' vocal on the album version is a lot better. Devaughn doesn't fill out his note hear at all.

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hi

i would have posted earlier, but i was out of town for 2 weeks and when i got back this thread already had a billion posts and a billion youtubes for me to catch up on. there are so many artists on this thread i've never heard of. a lot of it is great, but there's so much that's kinda forgettable. i haven't really listened to current black music in at least a year or more so i have little to contribute.

the closest i've gotten was stealing a promo from my mom of the Aloe Blacc album (?!). kinda fits in here. a mix of post-dilla hip hop, post-sa-ra soul and even some latin stuff where he sings in spanish. not a bad album. but it's from 2006. here's the first track. really great http://www.robotsinheat.com/temp/WholeWorld.mp3

oh yeah, Flying Lotus had a bbc essential mix. it's really fucked up
http://www.newmixes.com/flying_lotus-essential_mix-sat-11-29-2008.html

and while listening to a lot of these youtubes, found this korean artist Asoto Union. not exactly this thread, but i think papawheelie would love it. smooth and funky. kinda like some japfunk thread he started

here's another one i thought was kinda rad

Samon Kawamura - Try (feat. Aloe Blacc)

this isn't r'n'b, but thought people here would be interested. post dilla chop'n'thump instrumental hip hop. amazing

Onra - for fans of dilla's donuts and sublime frequencies

Jaxon giving me some material to catch up on now!

Anyone see this post from Muhsinah (who frankly, pwns this thread):

http://www.muhsinah.com/2008/11/11/check-this-out/

11 Nov 2008 | from www.muhsinah.com
My little brother’s EP drops today.11/11His name is 00Genesis.The future of the future.Get it. NOW.

I'll be hunting for 00Genesis later today along with Jaxon's additions.

I spent some serious time listening to Sy Smith recently. Yeah, I wasn't the only one underwhelmed, but far from terrible (some truly embarrassing lyrical moments though, for sure). However, the broken beat track (Art of You) found its way into regular rotation for me.

And speaking of Japanese additions to this, Cro-Magnon did a minimal, rhodes heavy track with Steve Spacek that's worth noting (Time Flies) in 2008.

Tonight's the night I play catch up on this thread again, so expect some live blogging soon
(especially on the Not For Sale: Red Bull Music Academy Toronto 2007 mix)

PPP album is sorta/kinda a live(-ish) band-oriented spin on Press Play (the back half of PP especially) with no rapping, a couple '60s throwbacks, and a couple nods to Basement Jaxx (at their most Funkadelic).

Remember when Britney and Waajeed were photographed together? Some of this stuff could be fronted by Britney -- "Go, Go, Go" especially.

Very different from Triple P. Love it.

Anyone know much about Computer Jay?

His song '1000 Fold' ft. Gray Kid on the 2007 'Art Don't Sleep' compilation (that also featured Flying Lotus) has entered my regular rotation.

Discogs entry shows little more than what I have (some edits on another artists project).

Youtube results are somewhat interesting live sets, and show a LOT of potential, but not quite on par with this track I have.

PPP album is sorta/kinda a live(-ish) band-oriented spin on Press Play (the back half of PP especially) with no rapping, a couple '60s throwbacks, and a couple nods to Basement Jaxx (at their most Funkadelic).

Other than liking their other work, the Press Play and Jaxx comparisons are the first things I've heard to make me enthusiastic about hearing it.

http://www.muhsinah.com/2008/11/11/check-this-out/

11 Nov 2008 | from www.muhsinah.com
My little brother’s EP drops today.11/11His name is 00Genesis.The future of the future.Get it. NOW.

I'll be hunting for 00Genesis later today along with Jaxon's additions.

I grabbed this compilation in search of 00Genesis and unearthed some other gems in that Flying Lotus/off-kilter Sa-Ra beats/Post-Dilla vein:

http://www.discogs.com/release/1221095

A1 Powell (7) Dimension X
A2 Jackhigh Arachnid Eyes
A3 Rustie Dog Mask
B1 Hubert Daviz Smut Cut
B2 fLako Inside
B3 00Genesis Dream Catcher

Also found a Jackhigh project (album? compilation?) that featured 00Genesis called Interplanetary Thoughts.

Been a bit busy to keep up with this thread this week, so hoperfully I'll be able to do that over the weekend. Btw, I'm totally down w/ international additions and some chop n thump instrumentals, so long as they don't become the focus of the thread (which they haven't, carry on).

Remember when Britney and Waajeed were photographed together?

I can't find this. :-/

and some chop n thump instrumentals, so long as they don't become the focus of the thread (which they haven't, carry on)

I've mostly been avoiding instrumentals, but I thought 00Geneis was worth nothing being Muhsinah's brother.

However, if occasionally welcomed: guided by seeking more JackHigh, I also grabbed a compilation called "Metro Sampler Line 2&3" that has some more of this off-kilter, sampler based, rhodes heavy, beats that fits the bill.

Loving the PPP albums so far, esp "The Ghost of Aveiro"

I've mostly been avoiding instrumentals, but I thought 00Geneis was worth nothing being Muhsinah's brother.

Uhhhh, worth NOTING.

(and how many mixtapes Waajeed got???)

Waajeed got too much to name. there's so much that i've found it hard to even know where to start with him. suggestions other than the usual remixes etc?

Flying Lotus is some nasty shit.

Did you all follow directions and download the pre-Abundance mixtape? Lots of remixes, TWO different versions of "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover," good-ish stuff. Album's probably tighter.

this kid i used to know in LA djs this kinda stuff.

http://www.myspace.com/djkaleem
http://colderthanaratsass.blogspot.com/
i'm currently listening to his peven everett mix. it's mostly his upbeat housey stuff, but he's got some weirder slow stuff too. definitely a name to check out.

it's funny how this stuff started in detroit but is so LA centric now. guess it makes sense since jay dee moved there and sa-ra is from there.

oh shit, just realized rozzie daime is my friend's friend reese that sang on the sa-ra album

anyone know about this Antantiquity thing? compiled by garth trinidad

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Atlantiquity/release/568528

Tracklisting:
1 Kleeer Tonight (SA-RA All Stars Remix)
2 Slave Watching You (Vikter Duplaix Remix)
3 Eddie Harris Bold And Black (DJ Nu-Mark Remix)
4 United 8 Getting Uptown (To Get Down) (Quantic Remix)
5 Average White Band Pick Up Te Pieces (Charlie Dark Remix)
6 Sister Sledge We Are Family (Daz-I-Kue Remix)
7 Donny Hathaway Little Gheto Boy (Freddy L Remix)
8 Chic A Warm Summer Night (King Britt Remix)
9 Spinners I'll Be Around (Kev Brown Remix)
10 Carmen McRae Just A Little Lovin' (GB Remix)
11 Faze-O Riding High (The Army Of Love Remix)
12 Yusef Lateef Nubian Lady (Metisse Remix)

or anything about SunGodSuns? it's total project blowed dudes (2mex, omid [who i went to highschool w/], and dj nobody. but has production by sa-ra

http://www.discogs.com/SonGodSuns-Everyday/release/766140

Oh shit, new blood! I'm thinking garth trinidad is a man to watch, considering I liked his Fader mix.

Matt, I need to pick up your suggestions asap. Booting slsk won't happen for a bit though.

Thanks for keeping this alive! Will report back.

garth is a dj for la public radio station KCRW and does a show called chocolate city

http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/cc

hold the fuck up

(btw jaxon, et al, thank you for your contributions!)

this PPP album is a lot better than i thought it would be. prefer the stuff that isnt so locked into the dilla-ish drum programming but its interesting. the first single they leaked had me worried they were trying to do the 60s soul pastiche thing.