Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

i'm grimes you guys

You're so positive

Ben Gruber ‏ @benhenrygruber · Details
@Grimezsz listening to michael jackson covers are we?

feel like posting this in the irrationally angry thread, read it and thought "this is why i hate people", not sure if i can explain properly but i can't be alone in this

like the fact that this person thought his knowledge of the fact that alien ant farm's biggest hit was a michael jackson cover was not only worth tweeting@a hipster girl he obv has a boner for, but the fact that he phrases it in a way that makes it look like he seriously expects her to respond to that

it's just

ugh

and it's not even that she's internet-famous or anything, i get weirdly annoyed when i see guys do similar things to girls they know on fbook (it is always straight guys who do this to girls on fbook), i just don't understand what goes on in ppl's heads

anyway i like grimes some of her songs are gud

i just don't understand what goes on in ppl's heads

pussy

I'm not calling you that, im just saying that is what is going thru straight guys who write dumb messages to girls heads.

dude does seem hella thirsty

heh nsfw http://grimestyle.tumblr.com/post/21872453967/preview-grimes-pussy-rings-first-creation-of-the

Grimes fave (and Montreal pals?) Purity Ring are now also releasing their debut lp on 4AD (7/24/2012).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETbGpGJNVLM

I really love Visions. It's so catchy yet I don't get tired of listening to it. I love singing with her and making up lyrics like I did when I listened to Cocteau Twins.

love this >

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxmCvdY4NZQ&feature=youtu.be

hm, doesn't seem to want to embed. lets try..

http://youtu.be/FxmCvdY4NZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxmCvdY4NZQ

love this

Did Grimes get really big all of a sudden? On Friday I was in two "young people" clothes shops and they were playing tracks off Visions.

it's a "thing" now

in my clothing shops of young people

'phone sex' seems like it's striving v hard to be a big summer jam, but for me it's succeeding very well, so whatyagonnado.

the tent for her set at field day had overspilled in a serious way, she is v much 'in'.

I'm more about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIqz3Q4qsMw

Joanna Newsom meets electronic music.
maxjimmyjazz 11 hours ago

wow, I wish

I actually quite like that remix.

i haven't been listening to much new music this year but i do like some grimes jams

She played our stage at Field Day and I was amazed at how popular she was - people were going apeshit but I still don't really get it. It seems to be more about her as a personality than the music. It was really interesting watching the crowd change for Tortoise who were on after her.

It seems to be more about her as a personality than the music.

yes, this must be it.

That's the kind of comment that really irritates me. Like, you don't *get* the music (which is fine, that's why there's chocolate and vanilla) but because you don't *get* it, that means other people's appreciation must be based on her... personna or something?

It doubly irks because it's the kind of criticism that often gets thrown at female musicians - it can't possibly be their music, it has to be about something else - saying people are responding to that performer's "personality" is a step up from "you just like her looks" but it's coming from the same highly loaded place IMHO.

she's pretty cute tho

So's Thom Yorke. Your point is?

Gukbe had all the bait this entire time, you guys

WCC did not take my post in the spirit within which it was given

your use of "within" makes that sound quite liturgical.

just striving to hit that point where the post plunges through its own transparency to meet the power that created it

It was really interesting watching the crowd change for Tortoise who were on after her.

well ya, it went from (to generalize) a slightly younger mixed group to (to generalize) a slightly older largely male group. this is perhaps not v startling when it comes to tortoise vs just about anybody. and rly i'm not even sure what her persona is, especially not as something notably distinct from the music.

(mild passive aggressive dickishness aside, your stage had a lot of great stuff, doran, i found myself there more than anywhere else. and also, if you were who i thought you were, that was a v sharp fitzcarraldo-esque suit you were sporting.)

Nah, personality may be part of it, but i think the biggest part is blog fame/peer pressure.

she was v.much 'bad' at primavera - needed a smaller stage I think, struggled to fill the space

also, an artist's personality always comes through their music; it's a bad argument that separates the two.

^^^^It's got nothing to do with the fact that she's a woman and everything to do with the fact her music is - IN MY OPINION - paper thin and on the whole unmemorable, the fact her voice is (to me) pretty irritating and there's only really one strong song on the album and even then, I'd sooner listen to Julie Cruise.

Apologies if I've expressed myself badly here but the post was supposed to suggest that I'm middle aged and perhaps too old to 'get it', hence the reference to Tortoise. As I twittered at the time I was pretty much convinced it was the coolest/youngest thing we've ever had our name attached to and it was pretty funny seeing all these people slowly morphing into fucked old dudes who look like me for Tortoise.

But yeah, if I was passive/aggressive or a dick, I'm sorry BUT I reject any claims of misogyny vigorously. There's absolutely no reason why anyone on here should have read anything I've written but all the same there is enough evidence out there to suggest that I@m not some sexist creep - quite the opposite hopefully. Sorry if I've upset anyone I'll try and phrase things more precisely next time.

oh, i meant i was the one possibly being a passive aggressive dick, sorry! (communicating over the internet bad, grimes better.)

additionally i can't fucking stop listening to the track with blood diamonds, i should really be saving my summer jams for summer.

Ah, sorry. And thanks for the kind words on my suit - usually I expect people to say I look like a sex tourist in it. I'm glad you enjoyed our stage. It wasn't as good as last year but yeah, I think there were some ace sets.

^^^^It's got nothing to do with the fact that she's a woman and everything to do with the fact her music is - IN MY OPINION - paper thin and on the whole unmemorable, the fact her voice is (to me) pretty irritating and there's only really one strong song on the album and even then, I'd sooner listen to Julie Cruise.

Doran you can just not like the music rather than posit that her music has no appeal to anyone and people are just vibing off her personality.

Which doesn't really make sense given this album's take-up seems to be much broader than the reach of interviews/profiles on her would suggest.

If anything most people I know who are really into the album got into it in a way entirely disconnected from any notion of who Claire Boucher "is" - in particular at least 3 people I know first became obsessed with "Oblivion" as a kind of ~this year's "Heartbeats"~ thing where they didn't really care who was responsible for the music so long as it filled a specific need for them.

Look, it was an off the cuff observation based on how it seemed to me and I've explained that personally I'm at a loss to understand what people see in her as the album, in my opinion, isn't that good. Then, I had the privilege of watching her gig from the side of stage and seeing how it went off. People were screaming for her deafeningly even while she was setting her gear up. Apart from a pretty cheesy rubber n'angel wings dancing dude there isn't any show to speak of and she commanded our biggest crowd of the day by what I would call force of personality. But this is just what I got from it, obviously most other people would disagree with me and say that the album is full of tunes etc. But as observations go, I now accept that it was a bit shit and maybe not totally thought through properly.

I don't think Doran was out of bounds. I think a lot of listeners DO respond to her personality; it seems like it is a significant apart of her appeal (and certainly a significant apart of her recorded presence). I don't think that's an inherently bad thing at all, but it's something I wrestle with listening to the album, which I really love. I can't always tell how much I'm responding to her music and how much I'm responding to her overall endearing, cool-girl vibe. There's probably no need to even make a distinction between the two, b/c they're so connected.

I guess that's part of why I'm so conflicted about that Blood Diamonds song. I dig it, but it's so sexually charged that it makes me question my motives for liking it and Grimes overall. Am I into the music, or am I just another dude crushing on the cute girl? And again, how can I even make a distinction?

But as observations go, I now accept that it was a bit shit and maybe not totally thought through properly.

the only thing that bothered me about with comment was the suggestion that grimes' audience was responding more to her personality than to the music (something we can't really determine from outside other people's heads). in saying that, you at least seemed to denigrate the way grimes' fans relate to her, intentionally or not.

I guess that's part of why I'm so conflicted about that Blood Diamonds song. I dig it, but it's so sexually charged that it makes me question my motives for liking it and Grimes overall. Am I into the music, or am I just another dude crushing on the cute girl? And again, how can I even make a distinction?

i don't think there's anything wrong with liking a song in part because you think it's sexy - same goes for performers. i mean, people sometimes get gross about this kind of thing, but i think we all pretty much know when we're perving.

I think the other thing is she has a little girl voice, so when she sings that "talk to me daddy" line, she's playing into some sort of icky fantasies

Visions is sexy too, of course, but its sexiness comes from her overall energy and intimacy and the romanticism and physicality in her lyrics. This is the first track I've heard where she seems to be going for a deliberate Lolita thing, so it just feels a little cheap and easy