in retrospect, how did Rob Liefeld ever manage to hold down a artist job in the comics industry?

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Rob L is the dark side of thrill-power basically.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, definitely.

I just read that Wikipedia entry - it actually doesn't seem all that imbalanced to me.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i posted the nude liefeld cap on the ile thread about the hannity/liddy superhero book

_, Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Motion to adopt Rob as ILC's Official Ironic Mascot.

Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I seem to remember that his work on the "Hawk and Dove" mini was ok, but he had a good inker.

I remember being really disappointed when the regular series came out and he wasn't the penciller! Admittedly, that was probably the last time I was disappointed not to be looking at Liefeld's art, but there really WAS a time when the McFarlane/Larsen/Liefeld style really seemed like a neat new thing (maybe it helped if you were 12 years old then). Larsen on Doom Patrol, McFarlane on Hulk and Amazing Spider-Man-- all good (the shiteness of "Spider-Man #1 by Todd McFarlane" (props to Mark Martin) probably put an end to this though, even before the Image era came along).

Chris F. (servoret), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

this maybe makes me like liefeld a little more. i think.

whatever, Friday, 28 October 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

So are all his good pictures copies of other peope's?

DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 29 October 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Only, y'know, a bit wrong. I particularly like the one he ripped off from a porn mag, although that's a crime committed by many.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Saturday, 29 October 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Discovering Jim Valentino's work on "Normalman" after seeing his run on "Guardians of the Galaxy" was a huge WTF? moment for me, because he came from such a hugely different background than the rest of those guys. The Comics Journal article about Image linked in that Wikipedia entry is really illuminating and makes me wish that the writer would go back and update it.

ng-unit, Saturday, 29 October 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Lingerie catalog (I presume) != porn mag!

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 29 October 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, even though I find the whole Image school distasteful to the extreme, I can't resist reading about it for all of the schadenfreude goodness.

ng-unit, Saturday, 29 October 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

'porn mag' used as catch-all for lingerie catalog, lad mag etc.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Saturday, 29 October 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/Pandas/liefeldWTF.jpg

Cor-Ray (chaki), Saturday, 8 July 2006 04:06 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j238/sage1701/liefeld.gif

Cor-Ray (chaki), Saturday, 8 July 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

DOOD YOU ARE KILLING ME

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Saturday, 8 July 2006 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

CAN NOT STOP LUAGHIUIUGNB

the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Saturday, 8 July 2006 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, it's well established that RL can't or won't draw feet. But what the fuck is up with Robin's right leg?

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 8 July 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

AMPUTEE FETISH

Vic F (Vic Fluro), Saturday, 8 July 2006 09:12 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...
I saw Judgement Day in a shop the other day. I was amazed that it ever got published.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

self-published kinda explains that

energy flash gordon, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't mind the strange body shapes and positions, I'm freaked out by unnatural number of visible teeth.

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J, Thursday, 5 April 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Dammit

http://www.checkerbpg.com/images/jd11_md.jpg

J, Thursday, 5 April 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Remind me to scan some images of the 10 cent X-Force issues I picked up on holiday recently. These are from the period post-Liefeld and it's amazing how good they make him look by comparison. I want to say it's Rob Pacella pencils and Dan Panosian inks, but I'd love to hear the behind-the-scenes of how much lead time these poor bastards got when it was discovered that Liefeld was gone and somebody needed to ape his style but quick.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 April 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Via Douglas:
http://progressiveboink.com/archive/robliefeld.html

forksclovetofu, Friday, 7 December 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

just giggling my ass off at work reading that.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 7 December 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw that during the blackout and meant to post it when we came back up. I'm glad you guys got to see it.

"He wears a baseball cap backwards, and when he turns it around it's still backwards."

Oilyrags, Saturday, 8 December 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

"Your characters aren't shitting out ladders when they jump."

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 8 December 2007 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't figure whether liefeld, miller or mcfarlane is the main reason why I don't post here except to talk about old graphic novel reprints, and looking at that, I'm pretty sure the answer is liefeld.

Jesus.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 December 2007 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't read them in years, but I remember thinking that Todd McFarlene's run of Spider-man and especially the Hulk with Peter David that were pretty good. McFarlene was really good at drawing fight scenes and action. There was always a bunch of detail of glass and rock flying all over the place.

I completely missed the whole Image comics boom/bust from the 90s. At least from the couple episodes I saw, I thought that Spawn cartoon HBO did was OK. I never read the comic.

I've got the Hulk run on a DVD, so I may have to revisit those issues. I thought the Mr. Fixit issues were pretty cool way to bring back the gray Hulk. Peter David was one of the better mainstream comic writers of the late 80s.

At least from what I have read of McFarlene, he seems like a douche, so i can understand the blow back, but I remember liking those Marvel issues he did.

earlnash, Saturday, 8 December 2007 06:35 (sixteen years ago) link

#24 won't load for me. :(

Leee, Saturday, 8 December 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

McFarlane did have a great run on AS-M but jesus, Image was so horrible. Dark times.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 December 2007 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link

SPAWN #11, written by Frank Miller, is the worst comic I've ever read. I still remember vividly how awful and repellent it was.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 December 2007 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

so

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 August 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/08/the-real-crime-was-the-hat/

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 August 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanx 4 new screenname.

"I'm smiling. Because that's what i do. I'm always smiling." (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree with Cameron Stewart that this was a pretty juvenile prank. Since people were willing to buy shitloads of his crappy comics in the 1990s, is it really his fault that he saw no reason to improve his craft?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Dude's a tool, I mean, everything in the tone of that blog post certifies him as such. I don't think artists should have to "apologize" for messing up characters (except perhaps to their creators?), either, whole thing's pretty retarded. Plus, you know, TAKING A STAND against Rob Liefeld in 2009.

I don't agree with your argument tho Tuomas, of course the guy should have kept working at his craft! He should have recognized the adulation of the public for the shallow thing it is and followed his muse to ever more challenging territories, allowing the talent we saw on X-Force and Youngblood to bloom to its full potential ;)

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The thing is, though... that it did bloom to its full potential.

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

btw:

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2009/07/IMG_6988.jpg

^^^^ awesome

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahaha

For an incredibly hatable guy he is extremely likable!

it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

he has the pleasant joyful demeanor of new money! not like those sour new england types.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

(am looking for a picture of gary brodsky frowning for contrast)

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

of course the guy should have kept working at his craft!

any minute now, he's going to break out those life drawings that he told Hart Fisher would blow Fisher's mind. that was only, what, eleven years ago?

more funny and original than, 'ow you say, a penis (sic), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

If Rob Liefeld revealed himself to actually be a highly-competent draftsman who had been churning out wretched garbage for years simply for a larf, I think I would love Rob Liefeld to the max.

Smash! Crash! Bash! Mash! Come and get it, human trash! (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link

any minute now, he's going to break out those life drawings that he told Hart Fisher would blow Fisher's mind. that was only, what, eleven years ago?

It'll be so weird when he finally realeases those and it turns out they're all oil paintings of the Keyboard Cat.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"If Rob Liefeld revealed himself to actually be a highly-competent draftsman"

this would be a great prank by the robster for sure, but also justifies all sorts of abuse, including throwing marvel instructional books at him. anything mean-spirited about liefeld-bashing evaporates if it turns out he wasn't earnestly trying to the best of his ability.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

man you give a guy one issue of KING magazine and the next thing you know the white queen has a MASSIVE ASS

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm Drawing As Fast As I Can

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

(The Rob Liefeld Story)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

POST FEET SWEATIE

(Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

the hipsters have lots of pouches these days, so we're really in a Liefeld or post-Liefeld world

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

i haven't seen any giant ponytails emerging straight out of the top of otherwise shaved heads, but we are moving back to bushwick in a few weeks so i will keep y'all posted

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

kudos doc casino on the footwork reference

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

Why has he never just created a character like The Pouch, with every inch of human anatomy obscured by countless pouches? Play to your strengths, Rob!

why must you constantly underestimate this man

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

I love that the pouch gun is firing... a pouch

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

that literally is the best Liefeld drawing I've ever seen

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

Agreed - tho the intersection of gun & left hand still isn't quite right.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

that literally is the best Liefeld drawing I've ever seen


well it is composed entirely of the one thing rob has spent his entire career drawing

(Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

OMG, I...I honestly thought I was just being a wisenheimer.

It's simultaneously his best and most self-aware drawing ever.

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLFNU_-K54M
Only watched bits of it but was amused by Liefeld saying "you can have a sword and a gun!" reminding me of an image Sic posted above. He does an impression of Alan Moore talking about Pulp Fiction and a bit about Stephen Platt hating him now.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 June 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

Liefeld memoir Robservations forthcoming. Or, y'know, at least like the first two chapters and then maybe a third chapter seven years from now.

God help me but I think I need to read this POS.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 April 2024 18:07 (two weeks ago) link

a+++++++++ title, quite possibly there are not enough plus signs in all of math to convey how stupid/roflmao/stupid that title is. like he's been jealously guarding this brilliant little nugget since elementary school and he's finally ready to share it with the world. bless that fucking dork.

"enthusiast" (cat), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:10 (two weeks ago) link

ROBSERVATIONS

Lock human culture

chap, Friday, 5 April 2024 23:13 (two weeks ago) link

I've Got My Own Autobiography To Do

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 April 2024 15:59 (two weeks ago) link


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