POO!: The Doors

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Mike Nelson of MST3K is a noted Doors hater and delivered a devestating rip on Jim Morrison in his first book. Fave bit -- where he asks you to imagine your dad, beefy and off-key, warbling a Doors song in the shower, and then noting how little difference there is between that and the real thing. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The line "I woke up this morning and I got myself a beer/The future's uncertain and the end is always near" perfectly sums up depressive alcoholic psychology. In the morning, anyway. Morrison would have been a better country singer than a rock one. "Touch Me" and "Light My Fire"--both written without Morrison's help (except for the dumb "funeral pyre" verse)--are good, enduring pop songs. When I reviewed Manzarek's autobiography I learned that the band's secret plan was for Morrison to run for the White House when he turned 35, and when he was elected to declare that the "revolution" was now officially on.

Todd Brandenburg, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

touch me - yes.

grimble, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Woefully overrated, but a number of fine moments; "People Are Strange" in probably my favorite. I also can't hear "Twentieth Century Fox" without laughing.

Vinnie, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

meet me on the back on the bangbus!!

mark s, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Acen - "Close Your Eyes"

Paul, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really don't understand the Doors-hate on this board. Yes, Morrison could be incredibly turgid and pompous, and there is more filler than there should be on those middle-period albums, but the accomplishment of their best songs can't be denied. Their combination of blues, rock, pop, Eastern modes, and Morrison's considerable charisma congealed into something unique and elemental. If you don't like a song like "Love Me Two Times", I don't think you like rock and roll.

o. nate, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, if you don't like a song like "Long Tall Sally" you don't like rock n roll. There's a big difference.

J Blount, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i like all the doors except morrison

mark s, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why does it have to be one or the other?

o. nate, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

(I was referring to the "Long Tall Sally" comparison, not Mark's post.)

o. nate, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't love rock'n'roll. That said "LA Woman" makes a virtue of its pomp - Queen could have done it. (And speaking of Queen....)

Tom, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i like all the doors except morrison

I would agree with this, except that I find Morrison at his best to be a very charismatic vocalist and though he was responsible for lots of overblown lyrical conceits and probably the worst excesses of the band, he also provided an imagery and sensibility which was central to the band's overall effect.

o. nate, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Have a guess.

Jeff W, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

stumped me, i can't think of a doors song that doesn't suck.

gygax! (i forgot my blog password), Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Many people I've known (myself included) went through a "Doors phase" at some point during adolescence; needless to say, my phase didn't last long.

That said, "LA Woman" makes my top ten list of great driving songs- and when the tune follows the Mojo jam by kicking right back into the initial melody, it is an exhilarating moment.

Ryan, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

eleven months pass...
"riders on the storm."

the doors became good when they stopped all the musical shaman-psychedelica horseshit and morphed into doing greasy bar-blooz.

Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:31 (twenty years ago) link

Hyacinth House for the keyboard, or Riders On The Storm for the melancholic depressed vocals.

Tijn, Thursday, 12 June 2003 08:42 (twenty years ago) link

You cannot petition the Lord with prayer!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 June 2003 08:44 (twenty years ago) link

I actually kinda like "Moonlight Drive."

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:27 (twenty years ago) link

"Break On Through"

for covers, X, "Soul Kitchen"

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:47 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
okay, i finally decided on one: "the end"

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

When the Music's Over.

Alex K (Alex K), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

Break On Through

person#0 (person#0), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...
gygax! doesn't like the doors

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

They could write a good tune, could The Doors. Pity about the rubbish lyrics and twelve hour long organ solos.

chap who would dare to contain two ingredients. Tea and bags. (chap), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Trivia question: "Rocked almost as good as the Stones" - who said that?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

where the fuck is this doors sample in "close your eyes" by acen that everyone talks about????

i mean, i hear the "here comes the sun" sample no problem, but that's the beatles, obviously. and the "fellas what fells what get ready i'm ready i think i'm gonna" is from "mama said knock you out" by ll cool j, and the "OVERDOSE" bit is from "once you understand" by think, but i don't hear no doors.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"who do you love" (live)

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Horse Latitudes. brief, idiotic, characteristic, horsey.

Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt (hyloolnuspstt), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 02:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Hate The Doors, but do like a lot of Strange Days, where Morrison's portentous voice invests something into [i]relatively[/i] unportentous lyrics: You're Lost Little Girl, I Can't See Your Face in My Mind ( i said relatively), People Are Strange, and, picking only one, Moonlight Drive.

deekew (deekew), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I still love a lot of their stuff though I'm long past my requisite "phase." My pick is "Shaman's Blues" though I very nearly said "Love Street."

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 04:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm going to say 'you're lost little girl' for now.

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link

LA Woman

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

"Touch Me" just for the keys in the intro. I can actually do without the rest of the song, come to think of it, but that insistent rising line remains cool.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link

where the fuck is this doors sample in "close your eyes" by acen that everyone talks about????

roffle

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

you know, i think for the most part, that first album is prety good. the rest is absolutely horrible though.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

2nd album better than the first actually. Huge drop-off after that tho, yes. At least until L.A. Woman.

How did I never answer this thread? Huh. Well, "Moonlight Drive" it is, with "L.A. Woman" a close second.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link

varies
today- My Eyes Have Seen You

edde (edde), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

the DOORS were great! The Soft Parade is my favorite song. Absolutely Live is my favorite album.

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Thursday, 12 October 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Morrison Hotel is my favorite.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 12 October 2006 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Morrison Hotel as maybe the best one to convert haters - what do u think?

(Answer to trivia question above: xgau.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 12 October 2006 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

No, and isn't it typical rockism to talk in terms of "converting" people to the Great Rock Classics? This indeed seems to me a sort of missionary attitude indicating all to clearly the roots of rockism in imperialistic thinking.

Joek Poster (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 12 October 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

all too clearly

Joek Poster (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 12 October 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

What is typical, perhaps, are your ridiculous projections and overreaction. I suppose it does not occur to you that my innocent use of the word "convert" (said term not being a universal symbol of The Crusades) might not reflect a desire to inflict some sort of Universal Rockist Dominion so much as the mere idea that maybe particular individuals who hate the Doors might actually find things to like about them on a record like Morrison Hotel (and gee, might actually fall in love with the group after all)?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

For me, the Doors are an unusually sophisticated example of a crazy garage psych band, the logical extension of The Seeds, ? and the Mysterians and, above all, Them. Hard to pick only one, but if pushed, I'd second 'Horse Latitudes'.

Incidentally, for real Rockist evangelism, please see the ongoing Marquee Moon thread. Now, there's a Great Rock Classic in the worst way.

Soukesian (Soukesian), Thursday, 12 October 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I can only take them in very small doses...Jim Morrison was such a pretentious overblown 'poet'.

Radio Free Albemuth (DocMartensBoots), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

LA Woman

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

You don't say (xp)

Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

Can we do a POX of Doors 'blues' songs? I know all the hits (and a few non-hits) but gravitate toward the 'greasy bar blues' Tad refers to upthread, like "Roadhouse Blues." What are the 'sleepers' of this ilk and on which album(s) do they appear?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 27 March 2009 09:36 (fifteen years ago) link

and Five to One. And Peace Frog.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

So many greats but I'm with stirmonster

wtev, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

Or even 'The Celebration of the Lizard' (live, not studio)

(xxxpost)

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

La woman a close second

wtev, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

pretty random: decided to watch road house AGAIN and of course roadhouse blues is in there, played by jeff healey and his roadhouse band, so after the movie was over i put on the first doors album (that originally belonged to my mom, and which i “borrowed” years ago), then realised i wanted to hear l.a. woman, so i fired up spotify and there’s this thing, released today

https://open.spotify.com/album/16MdQbBQqegRmEkwshz2Ev?si=IET3bQ-jRy6tilem92Cznw

-a “remaster” of changeling (which i can’t really tell the difference on)
- a demo version of riders on the storm which isn’t as good because it lacks a lot of the drawn out electric piano riffing and a lot of the atmospherics, but which DOES include that absolutely tremendous bassline, even higher in the mix. does it remind anybody else of “billie jean”?
- an alternate take of l.a. woman which i think i might even prefer? it’s tighter, closer, jim’s lower in the mix

Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 October 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

I can hear Billie Jean yeah and it’s a tremendous genius simple line that outlines the minor root and major IV really sneakily

calstars, Friday, 29 October 2021 22:40 (two years ago) link

I tried going further with the Doors, and not a single one of their albums held up from start-to-finish. I only kept this reference comp I made from audiophile reissues - few tracks are faultless, but I still enjoy listening to the whole thing quite a bit:

1 Break On Through (To The Other Side) 02:29
2 The Crystal Ship 02:35
3 Twentieth Century Fox 02:34
4 Light My Fire 07:08
5 Back Door Man 03:34
6 The End 11:42
7 Love Me Two Times 03:18
8 Moonlight Drive 03:01
9 People Are Strange 02:12
10 Hello, I Love You 02:15
11 Touch Me 03:18
12 Roadhouse Blues 04:02
13 Peace Frog 02:54
14 Land Ho! 04:08
15 Love Her Madly 03:22
16 L.A. Woman 07:52
17 The WASP (Texas Radio And The Big Beat) 04:16
18 Riders On The Storm 07:14

Most of it's already on the U.S. (i.e. single-CD) version of the 2001 compilation The Very Best of the Doors which Christgau graded as an A, the only Doors release to get that from him.

birdistheword, Friday, 29 October 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

Actually maybe there's only one single-CD version? Hard to say, there's way too many Doors compilations (which makes burning my own kind of funny, but I wanted audiophile sources for mine).

birdistheword, Friday, 29 October 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

anybody remember what that video was that stirmonster posted upthread?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 October 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link

nope. it might have been some version of "the crystal ship".

stirmonster, Friday, 29 October 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link

Growing your own comp might well be the best way to go---but then again, I did like several of their albums pretty much all the way through: the debut (personal revelation: "Alabama Song [Whiskey Bar], or vice versa, though I had heard tell of Brecht-Weill and Threepenny Opera, this led me to that and a lot more by those guys, sep and together---also, that marxophone, yow), Waiting For The Sun(Thee Eclectic Album which every aspiring and many a status-maintaining band had to make about then, and I played the HELL out of it man), also most of Morrison Hotel and LA Woman, which xgau did give an Aminus, o thank you Lord, and Absolutely Live, the only live Doors album I've heard, which is sensitive and caveman in just the right places.

dow, Saturday, 30 October 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link

And OK, sometimes sensitive caveman at the same time, long before early Vedder etc.

dow, Saturday, 30 October 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link

And a few years before most of us heard Kristofferson.

dow, Saturday, 30 October 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link

Of course he's more of a singer than either, but can come across as an asshole, unlike them)

dow, Saturday, 30 October 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link

xgau on Morrison Hotel...Morrison's gliding vocal presence--arty and self-absorbed though it may be--provides focus. He's not the genius he makes himself out to be, so maybe his genius is that he doesn't let his pretensions cancel out his talent. But will he blow it on this verse, or the next? Keeps me on my toes, not too laidback.

dow, Saturday, 30 October 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link

"Sensitive Cavemen Take The Blue Bus Into The Goldmine..."

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 30 October 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link

"Chowin' Down..." sorry I just watched original Night of the Living Dead on TCM. He'd like to be visionary caveman, but that's more John Garner, singer-drummer ov Sir Lord Baltimore, even before (waaay before) they returned w xtian lyrics.

dow, Saturday, 30 October 2021 04:20 (two years ago) link


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