List The Direct References of Stereolab

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scott seward, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

sorry, i'm lazy.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nothing To Do With Me
(aka Moonflies (aka Chris Morris))

(as seen on This is the thread where you talk about Chris Morris - genius, and the finest satirist of modern times )

Just got offed, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Does one of those links go to Gil Scott-Heron?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

i'm not a huge stereolab fan, but this list is mindboggling. good work, guys.

ian, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here's an obscure one - the title of "Animal Or Vegetable (A Wonderful Wooden Reason)" which was on the Crumbduck EP, is a line from a Faust song (at least the bit in brackets is).

everything, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Should also mention the later McCarthy releases which offer a neat segueway into the first Stereolab record. (eg: "The Home Secretary Briefs the Forces of Law and Order").

everything, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.uh.edu/engines/switchedonbach.jpg

dmr, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Does one of those links go to Gil Scott-Heron?

You're talking about the bass line to "Metronomic Underground," I take it?

jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Song on Aluminum Tunes:

http://www.reel.com/Content/Reelimages/hollconf/1013_getcarter.jpg

jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Pack Yr Romantic Mind from Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements begins with a sample from "Pop Orbite", a song on Chico Magnetic Band's album.

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Obvious one, they recorded a split record with her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Fontaine
http://www.discogs.com/release/256204

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

I always thought Speedy Car had a bit of the Soft Machine about them.

But if you want to talk United States of America, it's Broadcast on their first album that really rips that.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

On Dots and Loops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Brakhage

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Road_Again_(Canned_Heat)

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

But if you want to talk United States of America, it's Broadcast on their first album that really rips that.

I agree, I'd prefer to keep this to direct references / uncredited samples / lyrical lifts rather than vaguer incorporated influences or else I'd just be Sylvie Vartaning it up over here

first track on Refried Ectoplasm, 'Harmonium', where the 70's DJ spools up a tape which promptly breaks and falls off the reel is lifted from an aircheck of Negativland's 'Over the Edge Vol 4 - Dick Vaughan'

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

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- le

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

great work, Milton!

sleeve, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

This
http://www.yellowmelodies.com/e-zine/numero5/portadas/Stereol7.jpg

is supposed to be based on the comic series Pravda la Survireuse by Guy Peellaert.
http://www.bedetheque.com/thb_couv/pravda.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yes, this is a nice thread. Milton rocks.

nabisco, do they really reference _À Rebours_? That's one of my favorite books ever.

Turangalila, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here are the YouTube dissections of musical origins I was talking about. Apart from a couple things that seem too basic to see as steals (e.g., the Canned Heat), they're mostly pretty clear lifts or pastiches, without too many stretches -- and a couple disappointing "oh man, I can't believe you lifted the melody" parts. Mostly it's rhythmic grooves and feels they're snipping from things and using as a basis for their own stuff.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IrFdR7I_kjM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s9N1uwNEraM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=E9iiJy0jWSg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LNAO-vqa6R0

Artists mentioned: Faust, Piero Piccioni, Canned Heat, Gal Costa, Krzystzof Komeda, Kraftwerk, Jean-Michel Jarre, Sun Ra, Snapper, Wanderlea, Laurie Anderson, the Association, the Archies, Serge Gainsbourg, Neu!, Silver Apples, Steve Reich, and Plastic Ono Band (as source of "Emperor Tomato Ketchup" bass line -- this was the only one that kinda surprised me!)

nabisco, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

xpost turangalila I'm not 100% sure. 'against nature' is the title in translation and a direct reference would have used the original french. the lyrics do seem to me like a commentary or response to the book, I linked them upthread

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

if it is a reference it's admittedly not a very direct one (though I'm sure they've read it) -- with those lines about 'war', probably something else made the song's orbit as well

I actually liked this translation better, but I went for the pop edition to underscore the reference

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

You're talking about the bass line to "Metronomic Underground," I take it?
Yup, that's what I'm talking about, jaymc.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Milton I can't believe you didn't post this -

http://files.myopera.com/E.%20Driver/albums/35120/JohnCage.jpg

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 01:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

xxpost Milton

Hmm... yes. "Living fantasy of the immortal"

thanks!

I've actually only read it in Spanish. Going to buy this version you recommend!

Turangalila, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Gastr del Sol opened for Stereolab at the Metro in Chicago back in the mid-90s, and a couple weeks before the show I bumped into David Grubbs at the Hyde Park Kinko's on 57th St. He showed me the gig flyer he was printing up which read "Stereolab - 'John Cage Bubblegum' / Gastr del Sol - 'Steve Reich n Roll'"

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

I didn't actually go that show tho. Dumb! I never saw Stereolab.

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

I HAVE THAT FIRST RECORD!

jaxon, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

it's been so long, but they ripped the bassline for a song directly from a yoko ono tune from her first or second solo album

jaxon, Thursday, 25 October 2007 02:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.zenker.se/Books/the_stars_my_destination.jpg

dad a, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.see.com.au/blog/archives/Darren%20002.jpg

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

Prokofiev's Symphonie Diabolique:
http://website.lineone.net/~dmitrismirnov/image020.jpg

dad a, Thursday, 25 October 2007 04:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51It1cvE6cL._SS500_.jpg

dad a, Thursday, 25 October 2007 05:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

if it is a reference it's admittedly not a very direct one (though I'm sure they've read it) -- with those lines about 'war', probably something else made the song's orbit as well

Well after the lines about war, they've got:
This is the future of an illusion
Aggressive culture of despotism
Living fantasy of the immortal
The reality of an animal

Of course the first line is: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/715CHD055PL._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.gif
I wonder if the next three lines are from three other fin-de-siecle sources.

These Robust Cookies, Thursday, 25 October 2007 06:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

One of their tracks is based on "Disco Rough" by Mathématiques Modernes.

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 25 October 2007 09:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Can't think of anything less obvious right now (I thought I was a genius for spotting the 100 Years of Solitude thing once and then googled it and nabisco had already written about it on Pitchfork, thus I lose), but "Enivrez-Vous!" from Peng! takes its lyrics from a Baudelaire prose-poem.

I'd always wondered about some of these! Thanks.

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Maybe someone knows what that French Disco line really is: Bubble Withdrawal?

Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucia_Pamela

zeus, Thursday, 25 October 2007 11:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have her CD somewhere, it is bats!

Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2007 11:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

a lot of that youtube series of comparisons are a little on the vague side, but they're fun

I would not have compared 'Emperor Tomato Ketchup' to 'Why?' by the Plastic Ono Band, I'd have used "Les Histoires D'A" by Les Rita Mitsouko

Stereolab guilty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML9PWVm0wEQ

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

& I will post these anyway

Sylvie Vartan - Cette lettre-là (1965)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOlx2MxC6eQ

Sylvie Vartan - Par amour par pitié (1966)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uL8M0svSQ

Sylvie Vartan - Irresistiblement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZCbwg6VmnI

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Pack Yr. Romantic Mind:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille

Bill in Chicago, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.bigoven.com/uploads/margarine.jpg

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 03:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

that was feeble, sorry

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 03:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

brilliant thread, that Jirí Trnka film is mindblowing. good work!

has anyone mentioned family fodder yet?, as a general influence and specifically savoire faire and it's uncanny resemblance to (i think) wow and flutter. was it milton who mentioned upstairs somewhere that sterolab steals seem a bit disingenuous? i dunno if i could go along with that, their references generally seem pretty overt, if obscure. i think it's pretty key to the appeal of stereolab that you just know everything is pilfered.

cw, Friday, 26 October 2007 11:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yet nothing sounds quite like Stereolab. Sort of like a robot made of all sorts.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 11:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here's the original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NglD0H-cps

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 25 September 2016 17:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Also the people who are looking for Smile-era Beach Boys connections, you'd probably have a field day with Stereolab member/muse/svengali Sean O'Hagan's project The High Llamas' records Gideon Gaye & Hawaii.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 25 September 2016 17:45 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Another prog interlude: Camel - Migration

3×5, Monday, 2 January 2017 19:47 (ten months ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Another Todd Rundgren: The Night The Carousel Burned Down

3×5, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

I think that "One Note Samba/Surfboard" medley was done as reparation for nicking bits of both too blatantly previously.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 06:48 (one month ago) Permalink

The bass line of Metronomic Underground is awfully close to The Revolution Will Not Be Televised... hadn't really caught that before

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 15:08 (one month ago) Permalink

iirc it's stolen directly from a Yoko Ono track on Appproximately Infinite Universe

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 15:09 (one month ago) Permalink

got a flexidisc of "famous instrumentals" recently that had "One Note Samba" on it

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:10 (one month ago) Permalink

Metronomic Underground/Revolution Will Not Be Televised similarity is already noted upthread.

The Yoko Ono song in question is Mind Train, from "Fly"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK-k0kCSJcM

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:23 (one month ago) Permalink

thank you!

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:25 (one month ago) Permalink

that track is so siqq

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:54 (one month ago) Permalink

That Yoko track sounds like Can with yoko instead of damo.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:03 (one month ago) Permalink

I've often wondered how Ono & Lennon connected to krautrock - like, who actually gave them those records and what were they listening to - cuz its impact is really obvious on those first few Yoko records

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:07 (one month ago) Permalink

Probably Klaus, right?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:08 (one month ago) Permalink

that's my guess, but I've never seen it specifically discussed anywhere

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:09 (one month ago) Permalink

CAN seems like the most obvious thing they must have heard, maybe Faust (they initially made something of a splash in the UK press), maybe Schnitzler and Roedelius too idk

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:13 (one month ago) Permalink

they were jacked into the German experimental art scene from the beginning

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:44 (one month ago) Permalink


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