Blur: Classic Or Dud

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you'll get value for money out of it yet. play "for tomorrow" first, then through all the Modern life/Parklife/Great Escape singles. its great.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 29 May 2003 23:01 (twenty years ago) link

"Sing" is nice.

Matt K, Friday, 30 May 2003 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

The new rekid is great. 13 is great. parklife is great. Blur (the rekid) was ok. they are pretty good actually. in fact still interesting after all that time makes me like them. Are they insufferable twats. probably but if thats a reason for not liking someones music then 98% of the music industry is in trouble.

gallantseagull, Friday, 30 May 2003 05:29 (twenty years ago) link

Some of their best tracks are buried as b-sides on singles. That's why the singles box is such a good buy, it has a full 4 albums of great rare songs, an entire live album (and a remix album, for those who care for it). So, ESOJ, don't dismiss it before taking a good listen to it, you might be surprised. Killian is OTM, and some of the Leisure b-sides (along with Popscene) are grate as well.

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Friday, 30 May 2003 07:51 (twenty years ago) link

fair call. there are quite a few big bands that put amazing stuff out on their b-sides, Radiohead being a perfect example. Interestingly, Gay Dad's b-sides were good too..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 30 May 2003 10:48 (twenty years ago) link

I'm with JP, there are a slew of great B-sides on them singles. Up until the band decided to suck for a while.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

Until I hear of Blur writing a "Living Dead" or "My Insatiable One" I'll take Suede as the world's finest B-sides band everytime.

Calz (Calz), Friday, 30 May 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

Ned is OTM. 90% of the real great Blur b-sides are from the first half of their career.
Suede has a great bunch of b-sides indeed, can't wait for Sci-fi Lullabies vol. 2...

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Friday, 30 May 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
know there's not a lot of love for this band on ILX, but has anybody revisited 13 lately? just listened to "caramel" for the first time in years and was struck by how superior it still seems to virtually everything i've been listening to lately.

no i haven't just been listening to crap, thanks snarkers.

marc h. (marc h.), Thursday, 5 January 2006 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, "caramel" is probably my favorite song on 13. also, i'd like to know why "trailerpark" get's so much hate on ILM.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Thursday, 5 January 2006 04:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I keep saying that "13" was Blur making their "Kid A" before Radiohead made theirs, but nobody agrees with me.

("13" >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Kid A", obv.)

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 5 January 2006 06:22 (eighteen years ago) link

hmmm... not a whole lot of love for 13 - there's a good four or five songs on there, but a whole heap of bad ones. Also, can't stand "Tender" - an eternity of tedium.

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 5 January 2006 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

"Optigan 1" and "Coffee and T.V." are the two best songs on 13.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i dread a point when "battle" wont completely destroy me.

i wish mr coxon would get back to some of the guitar work he was up to at that point...

bb (bbrz), Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

"Caramel" and "Bugman" are beyond fabulous.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Bugman is fucking great. So are Coffee & TV and Swampsong. After that it gets a bit sprawling - everything goes on twice as long as it needs to and outstays its welcome. Mellow Song, Battle and Trailerpark would be fantastic if someone chopped a couple of minutes off of them.

Blur are probably the most consistent guitar band of the last decade (or fifteen years, whatever).

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Nah, they still suck. I prefer Pavement.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you really Graham Coxon, behind that pseudonym?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 6 January 2006 09:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Battle, Trimm Trabb, Coffee & TV, Mellow Song, Caramel, and I think that's about it. Most of the rest of 13 can swivel.

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Friday, 6 January 2006 09:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic from 1993-95. Then, gradually less classic and close to dud lately.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 6 January 2006 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link

How could you not like Bugman, doglatin?

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 6 January 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Beetle Bum makes me cum...

Leeroy, Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Bugman? They'd done that song already, but better about a million times before. It's really annoying. Next you're going to be defending BLUREMI!

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 7 January 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Still my favorite band, ever.
Geir, I can't believe you don't like "Sweet Song" it seems right up your alley. It's also been my favorite Blur song since I first heard it. I got the CD in the mail on its release date, and I distinctly remember standing in front of my stereo- which is on my windowsill, facing west- and listening to that song. It goes very nicely with gorgeous evening light over Elliott Bay. I also feel like it pairs with "Sunset Coming On" - like it's that song again, only even prettier.

lyra (lyra), Saturday, 7 January 2006 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link

13 is the one that I keep coming back to. even if it has the odd weak spot like most of their albums, it seems to hang together really well whereas I only seem to listen to a handful of tracks from the other albums nowadays.

in my high school anglophile days I would've said classic without hesitation. now? well, more on the C than the D side. at least the good tunes still slay most of the other britpop awfulness.

pompe vers le haut du volume (haitch), Saturday, 7 January 2006 05:09 (eighteen years ago) link

word

noizem duke (noize duke), Saturday, 7 January 2006 06:21 (eighteen years ago) link

The amount of praise for *anything* after 1995 from Blur terrifies me. Think Tank was the best of the lot for a very simple reason -- Coxon finally went away.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 January 2006 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link

like old yeller?

pompe vers le haut du volume (haitch), Saturday, 7 January 2006 06:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Love all the albums except "Think Tank". OK, "13" is far too long, but still there are a few good tracks on it. One of the best band of the 90s, without question.

1. Parklife
2. Modern Life Is Rubbish
3. The Great Escape
4. Blur
5. 13
6. Leisure
...
Think Tank

zeus (zeus), Saturday, 7 January 2006 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Next you're going to be defending BLUREMI!

No, I won't.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Saturday, 7 January 2006 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, and BLUREMI is great.

zeus (zeus), Saturday, 7 January 2006 11:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Think Tank was wonderful -- few weak tracks like "Jet" but so it goes

Hey Wogan Lenin, name one time Blur did Bugman "already, but better about a million times before"

Thanks.

marc h. (marc h.), Saturday, 7 January 2006 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

The "too long" criticism always strikes me as something a pop-blur fan would say about an album that clearly sounds best under the influence. And not to get all high-school metaphorical, but I've always thought that the length of Tender works especially well, since it comes across as Damon trying way to hard to postpone the breakdown that follows.

For kind of obvious reasons, this album pairs nicely (shuffled or played back-to-back) with M's Ray of Light.

dlp9001, Saturday, 7 January 2006 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey Wogan Lenin, name one time Blur did Bugman "already, but better about a million times before"

Movin On, No Monsters In Me, Come Together, Song 2, Coping, London Loves, Globe Alone, Chinese Bombs...

Actually, I'm listening to it again and it's a bit better than I remembered it. I always filed it under "token Blur-go-noisey" track. BLUREMI is the worst (x) offender though.

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Come Together and Globe Alone over Bugman? Come on now.

Classic of course. My opinion on their albums is that they're all roughly the same quality(except Leisure, which is shit apart from 2 songs). They've never made a perfect 5 star masterpiece, and the fact that they don't seem to be trying for it is a huge part of the appeal to me. It's like they approached every record like it was their White Album.

Here is as good a place as any to post this. Alex on the new album:

I haven't seen any of Blur very much this year. I did run into Damon on
the Portobello Road last month. He was doing wheelies on his BMX. Graham
I bumped into in The Groucho Club the month before, with his new gang. He
has motorbikes now. He used to like skateboards. He didn't turn up to the
studio this week, despite telling the Rabbi he would. Dave, who is an
aeroplane man, I've seen once this year, at Buckingham Palace. Times have
changed. Dave got the Rabbi involved to smooth things out with Graham and
the three of us. Lawyers had tried, but they are the worst people to
resolve arguments. The Rabbi got us all together and found the love in
the room. He was immense. He just wanted us to be friends again. It
nearly happened, but I think this record is going to be just the three of
us. It's a shame. I'd like to show Graham my tractor.


We'd had a couple of jams over the summer in a rehearsal joint called The
Premises on the Hackney Road. We used to go there, all together by bus,
before we had a record deal. There's an agreeable whiff of big-beard jazz
and 'JCB Song' about The Premises. It's oddball muso heaven. The café has
all the clients' press photos on the walls, and no one has drawn funny
beards on them. The menu has gone caffè latte-pain au chocolat since the
80s, and no longer features eggy specials. We used to like those. I think
Dave may have been briefly involved with the eggy-specials lady, but
she's long gone.


The management were keen for us to use their new, big, posh flagship
studio. They said we wouldn't have to pay for it. We wanted to be in one
of the little cells, like before, though. We rocked our socks off and
recorded everything on a cassette through one microphone. 'Cassette' is
practically a swearword these days. Never say 'cassette' to a sound
engineer. They can't handle it. I'm not sure where we're heading with
digital clarity and bit resolution. The nastiness of cheap, loud pop
music is often part of its appeal. Safe to say, the music of the
revolution will not be in 5.1 digital surround sound. In Studio 2, the
leads were noisy, the drum kit was junk, the vocals were going through a
nasty guitar amp, and the bass and guitar were turned up to 10. Producers
aren't comfortable with things on 10. They like eight.


Anyway, it was all wrong, except that when we listened to the tapes last
week, it sounded brilliant. We tried re-recording the first track with
posh mics, preamps and vintage compressors, but it sounded a bit polite
compared with the 50 quid's worth of gear in Hackney. What the hell?
We're going to be working with the Hackney Vibe. It rocks!


I guess we're back in business. The Foo Fighters are going to wet their
pants when they hear this stuff, and they've just built a huge studio.
But everyone's buying old gear now " new's seen as a bit semi-pro. I
think crap equipment could become fashionable next. Thing is, if you've
got a good tune, you can whistle it in the bath and it'll catch on.

jason., Saturday, 7 January 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Geir, I can't believe you don't like "Sweet Song" it seems right up your alley. It's also been my favorite Blur song since I first heard it.

I still like the odd track on their albums. For instance, I really liked "Coffee And TV". None of them ones on "Think Tank" stick out in particular, on the other hand, the worst tracks aren't as awful as the worst ones on "13" and even "Blur".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 7 January 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, No Distance Left Run could make 13 for me. One of the sadest songs ever. I like that about Damon, the way he can show that sad, sad, melancholic, miserable feeling. Another good example is Out Of Time.

elgolfo (elgolfo), Sunday, 8 January 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

wait a second....he doesn't say anything about the new album in that.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Sunday, 8 January 2006 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I do love Country Sad Ballad Man - underrated IMHO. And the Cornelius mix of Tender is much, much better than the original.

Mippy (Mippy), Sunday, 8 January 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Country Sad should have been a single instead of MOR.

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Sunday, 8 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Agreed.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Sunday, 8 January 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"Death Of A Party" would have been a better single for sure.

zeus (zeus), Sunday, 8 January 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

you know what the best song Blur ever did is? It is Turn It Up off Modern Life Is Rubbish, the one they hated and tacked on for the American market it gets the vibe that they only really recaptured on On Your Own years later iThe song is just so slack its like a British Pavement without the obstufication. it thats quality i love about them the moments when the affectations are put to the side and they are just sort of a lop sided noisy pop group. In conclusion Blur - Kaiser Chiefs = great.

pscott (elwisty), Sunday, 8 January 2006 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Country Sad should have been a single instead of MOR.

Should have been a single instead of the dreadful "Song 2" I'd rather say. "Look Inside America" is better anyway though (in spite of awful and untrue lyrics)

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 8 January 2006 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

"Song 2" was hilarious. The genius of it was that even taken straight it was better than the stuff it parodied, so MTV pushed it like it was a new Bush video.

marc h. (marc h.), Sunday, 8 January 2006 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Revive!

Why does everybody hate Damon Albarn?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

If you have to ask etc.

(Besides, aren't there reasons enough posted on this thread?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Being puzzled about people on ILX hating Damon Albarn is soooo three years ago.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

If anyone wants a tussle over 13 I'm up for it.

Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Saturday, 16 September 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

The question is whether Damon's alleged cuntishness is the kind that makes his music unbearable, or the other kind...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 17 September 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

That's awesome morrisp, they should have a blast.

Bee OK, Saturday, 2 March 2024 21:32 (one month ago) link

Watched the entire Brit awards thinking they were perfoming ;/

PaulTMA, Saturday, 2 March 2024 23:48 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

"So, in the spirit of clarity and truth. This is probably our last gig. And obviously the last time we play this song."

Damon Albarn at Coachella. April 20, 2024

Tender

Bee OK, Sunday, 21 April 2024 04:11 (four days ago) link

I stand by what I posted upthread 12 years ago - that Blur will still be chugging along like Status Quo. Except Quo actually had a sense of humour about themselves.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 21 April 2024 09:00 (four days ago) link

Don't know if they did really, remember when they sued radio 1 for not putting them on the playlist?

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 April 2024 09:07 (four days ago) link

Didn't one of their singles get put on the Radio 2 playlist instead of the Radio 1 playlist, and Damon had a shitfit about it?

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 21 April 2024 09:13 (four days ago) link

I suspect he got his former bandmates together last year to 'Blur-ify' what was essentially a solo album, and now they've made enough money from the tours to sustain their lifestyles, Blur will go on indefinite hiatus again.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Sunday, 21 April 2024 10:59 (four days ago) link

Speaking as the biggest Blur fan I know, I thought the last two albums completely sucked.

piscesx, Sunday, 21 April 2024 11:01 (four days ago) link

I have it on good authority that the first reunion in 2009 and the shows in Hyde Park etc were mostly organised to help Dave Rowntree out as he was financially in a bit of a state.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 21 April 2024 11:31 (four days ago) link

Dave has been selected as a Labour candidate at the next election, not an easily winnable seat but a chance he'll be busy with that quite soon.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 April 2024 11:34 (four days ago) link

I wish him nothing but all the worst luck he can possibly encounter on the campaign trail, hope he gets eaten by a dog!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 April 2024 11:42 (four days ago) link

yep, he's wasting his time. 3rd place behind the LibDems even in '97.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 April 2024 11:56 (four days ago) link

he's just so excited by the possibilities of Starmer Labour that it means a lot to him to at least give it go

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 21 April 2024 11:58 (four days ago) link

my spouse said Alex James used to be cute but that now he looks like a guy who poops on the street in the Tenderloin

brimstead, Sunday, 21 April 2024 15:42 (four days ago) link

Electoral Calculus currently has Mid-Sussex as Tories 29.6%, Labour 28.2% and Lib Dems 27.8%. He could win.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 21 April 2024 21:33 (four days ago) link

Speaking as the biggest Blur fan I know, I thought the last two albums completely sucked.

I've never listened to either of them in their entirety, but I wasn't interested in any of the bits I heard

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 21 April 2024 21:35 (four days ago) link


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