Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

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this is totally bleh so far (not gear's fault obv)

amateur!!st, Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link

#85

SLOWDIVE - "Alison" (254 points, 15 votes)

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I've been told for years to get the above album that this song is on, mostly for this song in particular...

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the way this turned out. Even at this point, the list is covering many different bases.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link

#83 (tie)

LAMB - "Gorecki" (259 points, 15 votes, 1 first place)

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"Gorecki"...it was blatantly obvious that that song is brilliant, wonderful, indispensible, etc. -- Dan Perry

this morning on my md walkman i found myself paying a lot of attention to the words to Lamb's Gorecki, and tho it gets a lot of Unfinished-Sympathy-knock-off criticism, i can't think of a more beautiful and affective love song.

-- Alan Trewartha

APHEX TWIN - "Girl/Boy Song" (259 points, 18 votes)

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OPO: Richard D James

girl/boy
-- jess (dubplatestyl...), February 4th, 2003.

i second girl/boy song
-- PMK

Girl/Boy thirded.
-- Matt DC

i fourth girl/boy
-- dyson

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link

damned images...

"Gorecki" is from Lamb's self-titled debut as pictured below, and "Girl/Boy Song" is from Aphex Twin's Richard D. James album.

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http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002HOF.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:33 (nineteen years ago) link

#81 (tie)

BLUR - "Song 2" (262 points, 17 votes, 1 first place)

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The video for "Song 2" features Damon being satisfyingly hurled against a wall...

-- Ally

DIGITAL UNDERGROUND - "Humpty Dance" (262 points, 14 votes)

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Certainly "The Humpty Dance" is one of the finest singles of all time, no?

-- J0hn Darn1elle

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link

alright, until tomorrow night then. Look for 80-61...

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmmm, this last has been pretty good so far, even though "Belfast" is the only one I actually voted for. I expect the album list to be more indie-oriented, rap and electronic music usually fair better on the singles list, for obvious reasons.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 6 November 2004 10:35 (nineteen years ago) link

The comment for Song 2 is utterly classic.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 6 November 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

"Gorecki" 83? BOO URNS.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 6 November 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Gear -- two things, both unbearably pedantic:

1. Wu-Tang/Beastie Boys/Madonna/Cornershop should be 96/95/94/93 -- I think you may have caught your mistake by the time you got to 92, though, so this is just an FYI.

2. I don't know how many ties are left in the rest of the chart, but how would you feel about breaking them by favoring the track with more overall votes? It looks like you may have already taken this into consideration with the order you placed them in, actually. But I'd like that better, since ties always makes it seem like the sample size is too small.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 November 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Nothing I voted for has been up so far - does this mean I have voted with or against the pack? I suspect the latter. No, wait! I voted for the Wu-Tang song (which should be much higher, of course - It's #9 on my list).

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 6 November 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Wu-Tang/Beastie Boys/Madonna/Cornershop should be 96/95/94/93 -- I think you may have caught your mistake by the time you got to 92, though, so this is just an FYI.
No, he's done it right ... it's because of all the ties so far. No numbers have been skipped.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 6 November 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

The only one so far that I voted for is 'Shame On A Nigga', my #14. One of the things I love most about it is the episode of Larry Sanders where they play on the show, and Hank asks a technician to name some of their songs, then goes up to them and tells them how great they are. "My favourite is 'Shame On A Nigger'," he says. A magical moment.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 6 November 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

No, he's done it right ... it's because of all the ties so far. No numbers have been skipped.

SORRY! You're right -- I was forgetting that there were 101 songs!

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 November 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

'Shame On A Nigga' only got 13 votes - Martin and I are probably responsible for it even getting enough points to make the top 100...

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 6 November 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread is making me love the 90s.

Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 6 November 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

There was one song by a very popular band that received 19 votes but only 220 points, placing it somewhere in the 160s. And a certain indie band received 14 votes on a song but only 119 points, so it was down around #300.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd like to know which songs got the least points

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 6 November 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

The "Hall of Shame", as it were, will be presented after the polls have been posted.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

FYI:

tonight, 80-61
Monday, 60-41
Tuesday, 40-31
Wednesday, 30-21
Thursday, 20-11
Friday, TEH TOP TEN

the albums will begin the following Friday, if not sooner.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

amend that to:

Sunday: 60-51
Monday: 50-41
etc

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

actually, in the cold light of day, this list is pretty cool so far, magnetic fields notwithstanding (was that really 1999? it seems more recent)

amateur!!st, Saturday, 6 November 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

mag fields was 99

yup, Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Shit, only EIGHTY-THREE for "Girl/Boy Song"? If I hadn't voted it wouldn't have even placed!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

(Not that there's anything special about my vote vs anyone else who rated it obv.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

i remember being nice to girl/boy, but i obviously overestimated the aphex-voting ilx population

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

'Shame On A Nigga' only got 13 votes - Martin and I are probably responsible for it even getting enough points to make the top 100...

I had "Shame on a Nigga" at #2, actually.

From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

let us continue. I need to get outta here soon...

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

#79 (tie)

DE LA SOUL - "A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays" (268 points, 17 votes)

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I could go on and on about how much i love the youth remix of 'saturdays' - they play it at 'funkademia' in manchester evry saturday and it's so popular they *turn down the vocals* durin the chorus so evry1 can sing along...

- piscesboy

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost - I had "Shame on a Nigga" at #5 (27 pts)

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

humpty dance at 8o ilm must die

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

#79 (tie)

MASSIVE ATTACK - "Angel" (268 points, 19 votes)

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"Angel" is slow motion apocalypse. It's like the bomb first drops, then goes off, then has to fight its way through, indeed, tar or something similar.

- Ned Raggett

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

you're making baby john darni3313 cry
xp

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link

(the rest later, gotta run)

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link

#78

THE PIXIES - "Alec Eiffel" (269 pts, 22 votes)

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I dont care what anyone else says, it can only be 'Alec Eiffel'. Someone here once said that there are more amazing ideas within these 3 minutes than in many a band's entire output. (Including the Pixies? Hahaha...!) I hope it plays in the club I'm going to later tonight, because I feel like dancing - no, flying! - on that song so much right now...

- Simon

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link

#77

EMINEM - "My Name Is" (271 points, 21 votes)

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Slim Shady does not give a fuck what I think.

- David Sim

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I like that song more than most but putting it above the Humpty Dance and Shame on a Nigga is some wack shit.
Boooo ILM.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

#76

DESTINY'S CHILD - "Say My Name" (272 points, 19 votes)

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Is there a DC track more perfect and succinct than this? Maybe, but they're not here and this is. And right now it sounds like the best thing they ever did. It's pretty much Beyonce's show as usual and typically her strength is not really deployed until the end - the music not really rising with her though, preferring to remain in it's regimented but bounceable sync-pop groove, comfortable as it is. As pure Summery modern pop with soul tones it's flawless in conception and execution.

-- the neurotic awakening of s

Taken from comments on the '00s poll, this song knows not the boundaries of millenia.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

(it gets better, djd)

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link

That DC song is far too low as well.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link

#75

NAUGHTY BY NATURE - "O.P.P." (276 points, 14 votes)

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One band that I think history's given a rough deal to is Naughty By Nature. I still think that their biggest trick- using lyrical themes to contrast their always-so-damn-obvious samples, not as a gesture of subversion per se, but to give the songs some *conflict*- is pure genius. It's there on "O.P.P." of course, the exuberant innocence of The Jackson Five vs. the sly evil of the subject matter...

- Daniel_Rf

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Destiny's Child look so cute and long ago on that sleeve.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

#74

BASEMENT JAXX - "Rendez-Vu" (278 points, 18 votes)

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"'Rendez-Vu' = immediate satisfaction."

- Eric H

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Out of interest, Gear, how many people voted?

Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

#73

OASIS - "Live Forever" (282 points, 16 votes)

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"I finally brought myself to buy Definitely Maybe today for the first time, guiltlessly, while reminiscing 'bout those wonderful times once upon a time ago, back in the fifth grade. IT IS STILL BRILLIANT. They will live forever, a pox on you!"

-- Francis Watlington

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

The number of ballots in the end was somewhere around 130. Hard to say from my email inbox; some people sent their singles and albums ballots together and some sent them separately.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

oasis has such an ugly logo. why did britpop bands brand themselves like detergent?

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link

130 people rather, xpost

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Because most of them were functional and mundane.

xpost - thanks Gear.

Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link

STAY NOW...
STAY NOW!!!

(sleigh bells)

Baby if you've got to go away

Don't think I could take the pain


This is the best "not actually a christmas song, but we'll add sleigh bells" song ever

-- Jaunty Alan (AlanTrewarth...), November 18th, 2004 1:55 PM. (later)

this is the truest thing Alang has ever said

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

the v/vm version of that is fucking amazing

todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there going to be a complete list of all the songs voted for, and their placings? I would like to know how the Backstreet Boys and Aqua did. Thanks.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link

stelfox show me where i insisted that grime is hip-hop

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

things certain sectors of the english empire aren't good that, based on this poll/thread: listening to hip-hop, listening to uk dance, reading

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

good at listening, just bad at nominating

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Did the whole list (beyond 101) ever get posted????

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

well that's why i said 'based on this poll/thread', based on this thread americans don't listen to uk dance, country, and listen to britindie alot more than amerindie. i don't think this is a very accurate picture either and i suspect the album thread will contradict at least one of them. the only real disappointment with this poll, outside of a general groan at fanboy wank, is that there's so little uk dance on it. i had been led to understood that dance music did very well in the uk during the nineties, that dnb and garage had a much bigger chart presence there than in the states (where they had none at all), that it was a rave paradise, that dance was to the uk what hip-hop was to the us, and this poll and thread (where even 'why is there so much rock revivalism on this poll?' prompts 'hey there's hip-hop on it, it's diverse enough', as if hip-hop were the only alternative to rock revivalism)(even on american radio this isn't true). i was hoping to find out what the uk dance 'flava in ya ear' or 'da dip' was but instead i got auteurism.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not sure about this whole 'the UK doesn't listen to hiphop' thing. I mean, I kind of agree with the 'In the 90s, dance music was to the UK what hiphop was to the US', but that doesn't mean we weren't listening to hiphop a lot too. I mean, I wasn't, but I'm not very representative.

Hiphop had been a feature of the UK charts from Grandmaster Flash onwards (OK, there was a bit of a break in the mid 80s). There were *mad* scenes in '88 when Public Enemy and Run DMC toured. And as for the music press, hiphop albums had a lot of critical stock from 'Yo! Bum Rush The Show' winning the NME 87 poll onwards. UK Hip Hop was never that big, so there wasn't the feeling that homegrown music scenes can create, but I guess for large parts of the USA, the consumers of the music are far culturally removed from the creators too.

Actually yeah - the original 'In the 90s, dance music was to the UK what hiphop was to the US' statement was more about creators than consumers, I think.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I point out to Matt that my 'glaring omission' choice was 'Back For Good' and I have said so, though I imagine that's on the 'your votes' thread.

Alba, Rapper's Delight was a huge hit well before Grandmaster Flash.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

dance was to the uk what hip-hop was to the us
One has to consider the club culture element ... sure, the Cream, Perfecto, Ministry of Sound, etc. comps were big sellers, but if you're comparing radio play/chart prescence, UK Dance Anthems vs US Hip-Hop Anthems is a mismatch, no?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link

see it had been my understanding that it wasn't, that uk dance actually did chart/get airplay in the uk.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

apparently i was wrong!

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it did get chart/airplay in the UK, but nothing close to that of hip-hop in the US (i.e. it's still a mismatch).

I mentioned the various club comps because I believe they were the biggest cash cows (and chart successes) of the UK club scene, but if I'm way off in that assumption then someone please clarify.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Martin - my early rap chronologies are all hazy. You're quite right of course.

I don't know enough about USA charts to comment on MindInRewind's comparison. Certainly there was a lot of dance in the charts here, though obv. daytime radio tended towards the poppier stuff.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been listening to "Pretty Fly (for a White Guy)" and blount's comparison was brilliant (even though he took it back later). This I do get.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
All the whining ruined this thread, I hope people eventually realize.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 6 August 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link


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