Who hear owns a copy of Hootie and the Blowfish's debut album?

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I've never even heard this apart from the singles.

A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Friday, 22 October 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't either but as far as those go:

How such an innocuous record can inspire such fear & loathing is an eternal mystery to me. I thought "I Only Wanna Be With You" sounded pleasant in the background back in '95, and that's the extent of my feelings toward 'em.

What sounded pleasant to you sounded phenomenally bland and empty to me and other people I knew who hated it, far beyond the level of Matchbox 20, say. And it was so ubiquitous for a long time. Everything about it, the tune, the changes seemed so blatantly rote and default-setting, and the singing was totally lacking in anything resembling dynamics or character. Now, I've softened a lot on radio rock since then, and I haven't heard this in a while, but I doubt my opinion would change much.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 22 October 2004 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link

When I think of Hootie I think of Kevin Sutton(a kid who cried in class because his dad was going to be pissed that he only got a B+in Western History) in the back of a Black F-150 on a neighborhood street in Livonia Michigan in 1995 with a bunch of dorky people from school. They were blasting an album cut from Cracked on the car stereo. I remember looking at a blonde girl under the orange glare of a streetlight who I thought was pretty at the time, not beautiful, but pretty, and thinking to myself I didn't realize this girl was a dork.

I don't know what I did before that moment, or afterwards, but the feeling of that particular moment is crystalized in my mind forever. Those kids in that truck in that weird little suburb were the perfect sociological representation on that album ever.

Kevin Sutton went to Michigan State after school. He probably has a slightly chunky wife and a decent home in the burbs somewhere, they probably planning to have their first child after his promotion next year. He turns 28 next June.

I am completely broke, I don't know how to make friends, and my only ambition is to learn more about western leftist terrorists on the late 60's early 70's (BaaderMeinhof. Weathermen, Red Army Faction...) and Viennese Actionism. I am reading Elementry Particles by Michel Houellebecq and it is rasing serious issues about my body iimage and my own sense of mortality. I often wonder why anyone bothers to live past 30.

Kevin Sutton totally won at life. From this, I draw the conclusion that Hoootie and the blowfish were a better band that Joy Division, who I considered vastly superior at the time.
Inane consensus pop will always superior to weird marginal arty angst music. Throbbing Gristle is for fuckheads, I think the music of Hoobastank is far more profound and meaningful.


Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 22 October 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Even at my job in summer '99, when we listened to the 'adult' station, this was on all the time. My co-worker would become almost viscerally riled at how it sounded like something anyone could write and play.

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sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 22 October 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link

DN, I love your Kevin Sutton story.

Jeanine Garafolo did this schtick a few years ago about being slightly envious of people who were blissfully ignorant and listened to Hootie, DMB and Enya.

But then I know quite a few people like that through work, and I just can't see how that life would be fulfilling. But it takes all kinds; more power to them.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah that's how one spells fleadh.

Wildrover, Friday, 22 October 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

>Jeanine Garafolo did this schtick a few years ago about being slightly envious of people who were blissfully ignorant and listened to Hootie, DMB and Enya. <

And she listens to what, bad indie rock? Jeez....

chuck, Friday, 22 October 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Everyone judging them by singles alone is making at least a minor mistake. The album tracks are better, not free of excessive sentiment and lazy thinking and cheesy hooks, but closer to home, better-crafted (occasionally gorgeous, musically), and folkier (and more Southern) or tougher. Everyone needs to hear, for instance, "Drowning," in which Rucker says "tired of hearing this shit about 'heritage not hate,'" says racists are afraid, quotes Nanci Griffith and then interprets her, questions the ingenuity of fellow parishioners, and changes his skin color to tell himself to 'go back to Africa.' And the singles aren't quite as good as the songs themselves, which sounded better on their indie EP when they were a bit less-produced. The best song on that EP - "The Old Man and Me" - didn't show up until their second major. It may be better than anything on Cracked Rearview.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 22 October 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

and if he's "a black man embraced as eagerly as Carl McCall by white people loath to think of themselves as 'prejudiced,'" as Xgau put it, perhaps it's also because some of the white people buying his albums can intuit that he's the kind of guy who does a lot of good things with his time?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 22 October 2004 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

jesus h christ Chuck - who gives a shit what she listens to ? That comment belongs on the Dave Matthews thread.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 22 October 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

this was on all the time

I just meant "I Only Want to Be With You" BTW, not the album, which I've never heard as I said. I'm quite willing to believe that everything else they put out was much better.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 22 October 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd rather listen to bad indie than DMB, Hootie, or Enya.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 22 October 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

ingenuity

er, ingenuousness

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 22 October 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

>Jeanine Garafolo did this schtick a few years ago about being slightly envious of people who were blissfully ignorant and listened to Hootie, DMB and Enya. <

And she listens to what, bad indie rock? Jeez....

"My Sharona"?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 23 October 2004 07:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I've a copy stuck between David Holmes' bow down to the exit sign and Lena Horne's Soul. Better than DH, not as good as LH, although he has a canny set of pipes.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Saturday, 23 October 2004 07:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Disco Nihilist rock on with your bad self! If you have a blog, sign me up will ya?

I've often wondered what the hell all the fuss seems to be about the Baader Meinhof gang. You see these references in music to these things and then you look them up (or at least I do) and then you think "um...so what is so great about that?" Perhaps it's just another way to get attention to reference these things, like JD and the Nazi stuff...

Wow and I'm even keeping my mouth shut about how much I LOATHE Hootie & The [insert disdainful clever wordplay here]!

Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 23 October 2004 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link

One of the old Velvet Rope jokes was Bootie and the Ho'fish -- "Hold My Handgun."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 23 October 2004 09:05 (nineteen years ago) link

YEAH! Now that's the wordplay I was looking for. Thanks.

Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 23 October 2004 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

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This shit is everywhere right now.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 27 July 2008 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Radio is playing some Hootie everywhere I turn. Hootstalgia is in full effect.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 27 July 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't mind Hootie. I wouldn't go out and buy any of their CDs, but if "Only Wanna Be with You" or "Old Man and Me" came up on the radio, I wouldn't complain.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 27 July 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

a black man embraced as eagerly as Carl McCall by white people loath to think of themselves as "prejudiced"

Jeez, Christgau is such a wanker. "See, people COULDN'T POSSIBLY be buying this album because they (gasp!) honestly enjoy listening to the music. They're just buying the album to prove to everybody that they're not racists!!"

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 27 July 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I want to hear more from Disco Nihilist. Wow. Everybody I know went through that Houellebecq poisoning thing in 2004, most of them just quit smoking and joined a gym.

Hootie singer has hilarious phrasing. He sings like a keyboard patch.

Owen Pallett, Sunday, 27 July 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

five years pass...

A notebook reveals an intimate history of Hootie & The Blowfish’s seminal album, ‘Cracked Rear View’

http://www.thestate.com/2014/06/29/3537402/a-notebooks-reveals-an-intimate.html

guwop (crüt), Monday, 30 June 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

I already regret not making a "How America Got Hootied" parody thread

guwop (crüt), Monday, 30 June 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

someone was recently telling me the CD went out with horrible backing vocals and they had to go in and re-do them and re-release the CD. sounds like a musical urban legend but maybe its true.

also i guess the main guy is a huge country star now.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 December 2015 01:51 (eight years ago) link

David Crosby being one of the people overdubbing new backing vocals fwiw

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 December 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link

The band performed this in their early years when they played a lot of colleges in the South Carolina area, and a shorter version of the song was released on cassette they put together in 1993 called Kootchypop, which they sold at shows. This version had very little background vocals and few instruments. When Atlantic Records signed the band, they had them re-record the song and released it as their first single.

David Crosby, famous for his work with Crosby, Stills, and Nash, sang backup on this and some other songs on the album. Crosby is known for his ability to harmonize.

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=2894

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 December 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

i wanna luuuuuhhhhv yewww, the beeeest that, the beest that ah caaaa-aaaaan

fuck you Hootflake

Neanderthal, Saturday, 2 July 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

crosby did do background vocals on that album, or at least one song, from waht I can see.

akm, Saturday, 2 July 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

A year or two ago I bought the first four Hootie albums (not Kootchypop, I'm not that hardcore). They're pretty good! Sometimes if I'm feeling alienated and hopeless, Hootie can reel me back in with their trite lyrics and jangly feelgood southernized guitar pop.

airdnb (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

then he wakes up sweating

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

This was going to be the revive of the year and you just had to ruin it.

airdnb (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

On Let Her Cry. I got a lyric wrong, but I'll let the piece stand.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link

When that episode aired, I wondered if Monica’s claim of getting a hickey from a Blowfish constituted an actionable defamation tort.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link

Hickey & the Blowfish

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 02:48 (five years ago) link

it would be really dope if someone posting here did, in fact, own a copy of hootie and the blowfish's debut album, and could post a picture for us.

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 04:38 (five years ago) link

omg i just burst out laughing imagining like flappy bird posting a picture of the Cracked Rear View vinyl

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link

that sort of reminds me, i think jim o'rourke is on record in an interview somewhere admiring mmm mmm mmm mmm by the crash test dummies

you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 04:56 (five years ago) link

O'Rourke's next project is, tentatively, a personal crusade upon music which has been labeled "bad" by the music world - an album of covers, as he puts it, of "songs that are generally not considered to be good songs." Songs like Bruce Hornsby's "The Way It Is."

"It's just to present that these are good songs. I'm not trying to be like, 'I'm the person who can show you that these songs are good,'" says the mild-mannered O'Rourke from New York's West Park Hotel. "[If they're sub-par, it's] through bad recording or arrangements or because of the time these songs were done."

He cites the Crash Test Dummies' "Superman's Song" ("the mmmm mmmm mmmm mmmm song") as another diamond in the rough. "Oh! That song is really fucking good. There's too much piano playing and there's some bad bass playing, oh man, the guy's like 'LOOK AT ME I CAN PUT SOME EXTRA NOTES IN HERE,' but for the most part, I think it's a really amazing song."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, August 23, 2004 2:54 PM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
(I think O'Rourke's abandoned that idea, though: that was written in 1997.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, August 23, 2004 2:54 PM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 08:29 (five years ago) link

bruce hornsby's 'the way it is' is a fuckin stone-cold banger fuiud

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 08:33 (five years ago) link

I own a cassette copy of Hootie and the Blowfish's debut album, Cracked Rear View! Unfortunately it's at my mom's house so I can't post a photo.

(I know I've mentioned this elsewhere on the board, but I bought it because I enjoyed their cover of 'Hey Hey What Can I Do?' on the mostly very shitty Led Zeppelin tribute album entitled Encomium. I was, uh, not thrilled with the results of that purchase. Either purchase.)

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link

Not only did I own a copy (one of my first purchases), I also left it lying on the windowsill while my family went away on holiday, and returned to a partly melted cassette, which I promptly replaced, only to find that the replacement copy was virtually inaudible, a great big sludge of Hootie's vocals and other nauseous sounding instruments.

Clearly it wasn't meant to be.

vanjie wail (qiqing), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

a great big sludge of Hootie's vocals and other nauseous sounding instruments.

How could you tell the difference? HAR HAR HAR!!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

(apologies - someone was gonna do that, figured it may as well be me.)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

my mom bought this CD when it first came out. it was one of the first CDs our family purchased and turned out the disc was defective, we had to replace it.

i never listened to it but i did own a personal copy of Crash Test Dummies and loved that record when i was 13/14

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

When I think of Hootie I think of Kevin Sutton(a kid who cried in class because his dad was going to be pissed that he only got a B+in Western History) in the back of a Black F-150 on a neighborhood street in Livonia Michigan in 1995 with a bunch of dorky people from school. They were blasting an album cut from Cracked on the car stereo. I remember looking at a blonde girl under the orange glare of a streetlight who I thought was pretty at the time, not beautiful, but pretty, and thinking to myself I didn't realize this girl was a dork.
I don't know what I did before that moment, or afterwards, but the feeling of that particular moment is crystalized in my mind forever. Those kids in that truck in that weird little suburb were the perfect sociological representation on that album ever.

Kevin Sutton went to Michigan State after school. He probably has a slightly chunky wife and a decent home in the burbs somewhere, they probably planning to have their first child after his promotion next year. He turns 28 next June.

I am completely broke, I don't know how to make friends, and my only ambition is to learn more about western leftist terrorists on the late 60's early 70's (BaaderMeinhof. Weathermen, Red Army Faction...) and Viennese Actionism. I am reading Elementry Particles by Michel Houellebecq and it is rasing serious issues about my body iimage and my own sense of mortality. I often wonder why anyone bothers to live past 30.

Kevin Sutton totally won at life. From this, I draw the conclusion that Hoootie and the blowfish were a better band that Joy Division, who I considered vastly superior at the time.
Inane consensus pop will always superior to weird marginal arty angst music. Throbbing Gristle is for fuckheads, I think the music of Hoobastank is far more profound and meaningful.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, October 22, 2004 12:18 AM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This brightened my day.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I c+p-ed that in the 'posts which continue to haunt your thoughts' thread a while back. It's all-time.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 00:07 (five years ago) link

I gotta be honest, he seems like a solidly good guy who's done well for himself -- advantage Hootie

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ktsutton

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link

Fuller profile

http://www.luskalbertson.com/attorney-kevin-t-sutton/

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 00:09 (five years ago) link

Still lives in Livonia and his kids probably go to the same school he and mjt went to

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link

Mr. Sutton often presents on topics relevant to his school clients, including transgender student rights, social media in schools, student/staff investigations, student privacy rights/FERPA, and student/staff discipline.  On the issue of transgender student rights, Mr. Sutton is recognized as a legal expert, having been invited by the Michigan Department of Education to help develop guidance for supporting LGBTQ students.  Mr. Sutton has presented to education groups across the State of Michigan on this important topic.

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link

wkiw kev sutton

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 01:49 (five years ago) link

The world might be a more OK place if everyone who bought Cracked Rear View turned out that well.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:03 (five years ago) link

goes without saying but incredible find, eephus

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

Disco Nihilist seems to be putting out lots of records and generally doing fine too

https://twitter.com/disconihilist

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link

xp all I did was google Kevin Sutton and Michigan State

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link

The real challenge would be to identify the blonde girl in the orange glare

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:38 (five years ago) link

well you did that and no one else did so pat yourself on the back

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:41 (five years ago) link

Disco Nihilist seems to be putting out lots of records and generally doing fine too

https://twitter.com/disconihilist

Still yearning for the apocalypse though

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link

Tiiiiiiiiiiime
Why you punish may

calstars, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:57 (five years ago) link

It appears that I may have purchased one of the defective copies of Cracked Rear View.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 03:44 (five years ago) link

Somehow I had no idea until recently that Darius Rucker has been a pretty big country musician for a while now. I guess it's not a huge jump stylistically from Hootie to contemporary nashville so no huge surprise.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 04:01 (five years ago) link

I love "Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm"

cr.ht (crüt), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 04:32 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

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a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 November 2023 04:39 (four months ago) link

like the Braves in '95

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 19 November 2023 07:51 (four months ago) link

Seeing this made me listen to 2/3 of "Let Her Cry" (which sounds like it could have been a decent Counting Crows song) and half the Kootchypop version of "Only Wanna Be With You" but then it all just made me wonder if Sister Hazel was as bad as I remember. (Yes.)

Did '90s Phish-heads hate all these not-quite-jammy bands like DMB, Sister Hazel, Blues Traveler, Hootie?

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 19 November 2023 10:25 (four months ago) link

Lol Western that's the ONLY thing I remember from Fairweather Johnson.

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 November 2023 15:53 (four months ago) link


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