Hip Hop taken to new levels.

other than that i dunno

stockhausen wd be a horrible mc (though funny admittedly)

This was Rush's argument too. And Genesis. And Yes.

LeRoi Jones - Blue People

Read it motherfuckers.

And Anthony Braxton, Cornel West, Toni Morrison, and a bunch of other people too.

*cue ddrake: 'Ha ha, where is your sense of humor, dork, etc.'*

Seriously Ned, read Blues People.
To quote big lebowski.

"You're out of yr element donnie."

Bam.

James who started the thread - have you heard Kid Koala, or Peanut Butter Wolf's My Vinyl Weighs a Ton?

Read it motherfuckers.

and while you're at it don't miss Mr. Baraka's insightful, inspiring poem about the WTC disaster

Is the so called "progressive" really all that progressive?

and while you're at it don't miss Mr. Baraka's insightful, inspiring poem about the WTC disaster

And yet, Blues People is a more incredible work than anything anyone on ILM has accomplished...a more important work as well. That I can't believe more of you haven't read.
Baraka Rock-a's.

ddrake exposes his secret rockist heart non-shockah!

I'm not gonna get much support here from the ILM regs, even if some of them agree with me, so I'ma bounce and get some homework done.
Gimme a book report on Blues People, Ned. Word.

And yet, The Decameron is a more complex work than Jones/Baraka has produced...wft is your point? If people can't write masterpieces, they shouldn't say anything? Not that I'm conceding Blues People (which I have read, ages ago, thanks so much) is a masterpiece, just wondering if it's your opinion that only the authors of masterpieces should talk.

If you've read it, you clearly haven't comprehended it.

And yet, The Decameron is a more complex work than Jones/Baraka has produced...wft is your point? If people can't write masterpieces, they shouldn't say anything? Not that I'm conceding Blues People (which I have read, ages ago, thanks so much) is a masterpiece, just wondering if it's your opinion that only the authors of masterpieces should talk

And how does an article about the WTC relate to anything we're talking about in this thread? You were using it to discredit his OTHER book, which I believe has relevence in this conversation.

John, this is the same person who thinks he needs to know everything and anything about a genre before commenting on it properly and yet is more than happy to accuse you of knowing nothing about something if you happen to have general conclusions that don't match with his own. And yes, that includes assuming you haven't read something he has, because obviously only he knows about it and is more than happy to tell you at high volume if necessary. If arguing with Geir is like punching Jello, arguing with ddrake is like punching stinky Jello that complains about your sense of humor as well and then gets bitter and hides.

This is not good proof of your omniscience.

Nihilist Pop Star I dunno if that was for one, some or all of us on this thread which showed ilx at its worst, refusing to give a straight answer to somebody whose question was a fine, honest question, but either way, that's one awesome picture

John, this is the same person who thinks he needs to know everything and anything about a genre before commenting on it properly and yet is more than happy to accuse you of knowing nothing about something if you happen to have general conclusions that don't match with his own. And yes, that includes assuming you haven't read something he has, because obviously only he knows about it and is more than happy to tell you at high volume if necessary. If arguing with Geir is like punching Jello, arguing with ddrake is like punching stinky Jello that complains about your sense of humor as well and then gets bitter and hides.

Ned is clearly someone who thinks he comprehends what I am saying without actually listening to what I am saying. "Cultural Context" = "Knowing everything about a genre"?
"high volume"? We're on a message board. Congratulations, you have better hearing than I.
Personal attack, comparison to the village idiot, hilarious.

What a "rockist" perspective of literature! R Kelly is a pedophile, therefore I no longer can listen to the Ignition Remix.

HAHAHA! You picked the wrong example there! But John can do the honors.

Your relevence to this thread's discussion is nonexistent.
Its like 5th grade again! Gang up on me and take my lunch money, please.

again, not sure those really answer the question per se but are worth checking out. the only example of #1 i can think of at the moment is the roots, "water" off phrenology, which i think is consciously an evocation of prog in a hip hop context.

#2 i don't know of any off the top of my head but i would love to hear this attempted. why not?

#4 try digging into non-western hip hop, you're certain to hear some more unusual flows that way.

thats a more respectable lineup tbf.

oh yeah I'll still stan for most of those d00ds, but I was also anti Jay-Z until like 2006 #shame.

James may just give up at once. If you are looking for good and actually musically sophisticated hip-hop, then that is not going to happen. And the responses in this thread show why. Hip-hop are doomed to stay shit forever, because the hip-hop audience has got this sick idea that musical sophistication is "white" (=bad).

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, November 17, 2003 8:49 PM

reading this, i had no trouble understanding what dd was trying to say and i was trapped in the same what the hell is happening here torture.

It was a different era.

I've had the time of my life.

this is now a decade old thread.

Is there anything happening in backpacker rap in 2013?

lots of examples of what OP was looking for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIOqbWdOyg

Is there even a record label for this shit anymore?

yes, it's called bandcamp

ddrake, my comment towards you was much more addressed at your lame putdowns than anything else. Totally fucking cringeworthy. The error was in not singling out anyone else because a good 85% of this thread reads like a transcript of the time trials for the 2004 Cringelympics.
Sadly, because life is deeply unfair, I have no interest or desire in going back and singling out everyone on the thread who was acting the ass, so you'll have to settle for the following:

ATTENTION ILM PLEASE EAT A GIGANTIC DISEASED DICK OK THX

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, November 17, 2003 12:02 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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5 minutes of talking about hip hop on this board and I feel like killing everyone.

new old board description

perhaps you are unfamiliar with the concept of "the rump" and why it needs to be "backed up".

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