― Margus Kiis, estonian rock critic (Margus Kiis, estonian rock cri), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:26 (twenty years ago) link
First Fall I ever heard was _The Wonderful and Frightening World..._, which did nothing for me at the time. _Palace of Swords Reversed_ was my conversion experience.
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:27 (twenty years ago) link
1. Prole Art Threat (1981)2. How I Wrote “Elastic Man” (1979)3. Totally Wired (1981)4. Inch (1999)5. Fortress/Deer Park (1982)6. New Face In Hell (1980)7. Free Ranger (1992)8. Black Monk Theme, pt. 1 (1990)9. Masquerade (1998)10. U.S. ’80s-’90s (1986)11. Kimble (1993)12. Slang-King (1984)13. Repetition (1977)14. Hit The North (1988)15. Leave The Capitol (1981)16. Edinburgh Man (1991)17. Put Away (1978)
I believe almost every band I've ever been in has covered a Fall song at some point, and sometimes it wasn't even my idea... I have vivid memories of playing "U.S. '80s-'90s," "Frightened" and "Fantastic Life."
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Sam J. (samjeff), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:35 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward, Monday, 16 June 2003 22:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Sam J. (samjeff), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link
The ClassicalNew Face In HellI'm Into CB!RepetitionI Am Damo SuzukiNew Face In HellHip PriestCouldn't Get AheadDr. Buck's LetterLiving Too LateHit The NorthCruiser's Creek (live from Seminal Live lp)Dktr FaustusCREEPClear Off!Oh! BrotherImpression of J. TemperanceProle Art Threat
Hopefully this, in addition to what Douglas and others are posting, will give you a nice long list of songs to download from your favorite p2p.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:43 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:46 (twenty years ago) link
That's a Kinks song, Mike!
Anyway, I think the hype is a bit overblown, and they sound like absolute shit on pot, but they have their moments. Eh.
― Farmer Al (King Kobra), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:50 (twenty years ago) link
1) “steppin out”2) “rebellious jukebox”3) “dice man”4) “rowche rumble-live”5) “pay your rates”6) “fit and working again”7) “totally wired”8) “the classical”9) “room to live”10) “lie dream of the casino soul”11) “i feel voxish”12) “c.r.e.e.p.”13) “rollin’ dany”
14) “couldn’t get ahead”15) “living too late”16) “frenz”17) “wrong place, right time”18) “dead beat descendant”19) “black monk theme part I”20) “free range”21) “strychnine”22) “hey student!”23) “life just bounces”24) “spinetrak”25) “touch sensitive”26) “hands up billy”
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 June 2003 22:52 (twenty years ago) link
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 16 June 2003 23:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 23:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Kris (aqueduct), Monday, 16 June 2003 23:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 16 June 2003 23:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 June 2003 23:52 (twenty years ago) link
Ah, lovely. I would happily shell out for a Fall boxset of Peel Sessions from then to now.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 23:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Pitchblender (Pitchblender), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 00:44 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 00:46 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 01:27 (twenty years ago) link
Would you believe... USA Today?
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 01:52 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 02:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron A., Tuesday, 17 June 2003 02:31 (twenty years ago) link
that said i still like tons of their songs, for reasons stated elsewhere in this thread.
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 04:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 06:16 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 06:37 (twenty years ago) link
― mosurock (mosurock), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 06:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Jody c., Tuesday, 17 June 2003 07:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 07:26 (twenty years ago) link
I used to do Fall tribute radio shows while on WFMU. You can check one of them out here.
― mosurock (mosurock), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
It's exciting stuff.
I picked up the Rough Trade years anthology when it came out not long ago and it comes off like a perfect mix tape. I listen to it all the time. Definitely a great starting point.
― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:40 (twenty years ago) link
― NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:48 (twenty years ago) link
― NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link
― abeta, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:21 (twenty years ago) link
You should get Dragnet. It's the best Fall album AND it has 'A Figure Walks' and 'Muzorewi's Daughter' which I think you'd like.
It also has a really grainy, monochrome sound and lots of Mike Leigh's 'a row of terraced houses falling down' drum rolls. If anyone tells you it's really badly recorded they're nuts. It's PERFECT.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link
― mosurock (mosurock), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link
You guys will not appreciate this, but it occurs to me: I've never seen anyone writing about Beat Happening mention how Fall-like they can be. Primitive tom-thump, gorilla-handed repeating riff, singer moaning and sneering . . . throw "Bewitched" into a Fall playlist and it sits comfortably. I mention this mostly because I imagine many of you don't like Beat Happening.
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:50 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:57 (twenty years ago) link
Early Fall - help me make a definitive C90Fall (post-1985 / compilations): Search & DestroyWhat are the best 10 Fall tracks of all time then?best Fall album for starters
Felcher, you might be interested in this:
Are The Fall the most overrated band in the history of music?
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link
But maybe you just need to jump ahead on the CD until it starts to click. On This Nation's Saving Grace (one of the best records ever made) .. just listen to L.A. and Gut of the Quantifier.. two pretty accessible tracks.
Also, listen to it on Vinyl. The ordering on the CD sucks and the extra tracks ruined it.
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link
A request for MES:
we are in a band called the fall from norfolk, va and we are signed to an independent label..just wanted to let you know....maybe you can change your name to the fall uk so it does not conflict..thanks for your time
― Sam J. (samjeff), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 16:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link
okay, but put a gun to my head? probably the wonderful and frightening world, prolly because it was really the first full album i got into back when it came out...still trying to find the peel mix of c.r.e.e.p...okay i haven't looked that hard, but it's the best one.
it would be a better world if the same attention endlessly lavished on, say, pet sounds, was spread like thick marmite on this nations saving grace.
long live the mighty fall!
skip
― skip bosco, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:48 (twenty years ago) link
it's really not a matter of opinion --it's a fact that if you don't dig the fall, well, you're really somehow...how you say....deficient.
― skip bosco, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:52 (twenty years ago) link
As with much of the post-Beggars years, "Middle Class Revolt" is half great half meh. My picks for the great stuff:15 WaysBehind The CounterM5#1Middle Class Revolt!Hey! StudentWar
As for the Sublingual Tablet LP, only "Dedication Not Medication", "Auto Chip 2014-2016", "Pledge" and "Fibre Book Troll" were different on the LP. "Dedication" was definitely superior on the LP, "Auto Chip" was just an edit and the other two were a toss-up (I didn't feel "Fibre" should be twice as long).
I have MP3's of them if you're interested, ILXMail me.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 23 March 2024 16:53 (one month ago) link
Starting in 1994 or so I subscribed to the Fall email discussion list (remember those?) so I was aware of the lineup comings and goings. The list was very rockist though, most hated Brix and anything after 1982. (I've always loved Brix and the Beggars albums rule so hard).
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 23 March 2024 17:27 (one month ago) link
Anyone happen to know if the vinyl version of Sublingual Tablet ever got a non-vinyl release? iirc all the alternative versions were superior to their cd counterparts.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 23 March 2024 18:08 (one month ago) link
As with much of the post-Beggars years, "Middle Class Revolt" is half great half meh. My picks for the great stuff:15 WaysBehind The CounterM5#1Middle Class Revolt!Hey! StudentWarAs for the Sublingual Tablet LP, only "Dedication Not Medication", "Auto Chip 2014-2016", "Pledge" and "Fibre Book Troll" were different on the LP. "Dedication" was definitely superior on the LP, "Auto Chip" was just an edit and the other two were a toss-up (I didn't feel "Fibre" should be twice as long). I have MP3's of them if you're interested, ILXMail me.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 23 March 2024 18:48 (one month ago) link
Well now this is a good read:
https://thequietus.com/articles/34037-the-fall-marc-riley-craig-scanlon-paul-steve-hanley
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 19:31 (one month ago) link
The four of them were on the Hanley Bros podcast together a couple yrs back, well worth the listen
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 19:56 (one month ago) link
I lurve Marc Riley, I wish he'd reissue his Creepers stuff.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:35 (one month ago) link
been listening to O-Mit, an EP of stuff left off Re-Mit, it's really great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 April 2024 15:01 (four weeks ago) link
nice, had no idea that existed
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 12 April 2024 15:10 (four weeks ago) link
got one of those great Fall song titles that cracks me up: "A Disco (City)", the parenthesis kill me for some reason, miss u Mark E.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 April 2024 15:11 (four weeks ago) link
How do they feel about this description? “It really was a great band,” says Riley. “The two drummer lineup [with Karl Burns] was an amazing thing to be involved in. It felt absolutely infallible pretty much every night. We felt like we could take anybody on. We once played with The Birthday Party [in 1982] and they really went for it, it was a bit like a 'follow that...' scenario. And we did. We did a 13 minute version of ‘And This Day’, and we went hell for leather. For my money we were better than The Birthday Party that night, who were one of the greatest live bands in the world.” Scanlon then adds: “although we did play with The Cramps and they blew us off stage. Fucking ruined us.”
one for the "blew them off stage" thread! i find the image evoked by the lewder reading of that innocuous line truly delightful.
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 12 April 2024 15:22 (four weeks ago) link
further to the interview, there is a pretty significant subset of fall cratediggers who will listen to all these different recordings critically and point out standouts - not sure if they've been in touch with those folks, but god i bet they could curate some truly killer sets based on their tapes. far better than the grey-market piles of crap that come out now.
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 12 April 2024 15:38 (four weeks ago) link
It is wild how much stuff seems to get added to the pile every time I take a look - there’s a 4-disc reissue of Are You Are Missing Winner?
― JoeStork, Friday, 12 April 2024 15:48 (four weeks ago) link
One of those sets has four renditions of "Das Boot". I mean, yeah, but
― Mark G, Friday, 12 April 2024 16:42 (four weeks ago) link
Even if there WEREN’T any outtakes from Re-Mit, they’d still have to make an outtakes ep called O-Mit
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 15 April 2024 19:42 (three weeks ago) link
We could use a good live album of the fall heads roll tour from before the explosion of that lineup
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 15 April 2024 19:44 (three weeks ago) link
that would be great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 April 2024 19:57 (three weeks ago) link