TS: "I Can't Go For That" vs. "I Will Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)"

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Maybe we'll find out on Meatloaf's frank and soul-baring compendium of B-sides and rarities, "Loose Meat"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, it's all fun and games to blame me until I have you all killed.

and i always thought you were so pleasant, too...


and Tracer, ugh! and you can't blame ally for that...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

What, for his loose-ocity? I blame his many years of "riding the hog."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:10 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, I wouldn't do that either if my ass was like a sleeping bag.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

Wait a minute this thread has turned into obvious Meatloaf mockery, WHERE DID WE GO WRONG.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

It's basically all been you, luv.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

i thought that ass-sex was a not-so-hidden subtext in all meatloaf songs. i mean, wasn't that what he was really after in "paradise by the dashboard light"? why else would that chick have been so adamant?

i definitely think that "i can't go for that" is all about Darryl telling John that he's not going to bottom for him ... no can do. check out those album covers if you don't think that they were poofs!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

It's all about butt-sex in the end.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

not "maneater" ... that's all about oral sex. like duh.

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

No it's about the butt! The maneater's vagina dentata are going to "chew you up" so make the babies in her butt if you know what's what.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

"I Wanna Fuck You In... 'That'"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

"Don't Do Me Like That"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

on the other hand, "That's the Way (Uh Huh, Uh Huh) I Like It"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

I'm way too into this!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

Take That

(and like it!)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

"Can You Get to That?"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

man, I gotta feeling we're gonna find Tracer engorged on the stick shift

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

"Is That All There Is?"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 16:11 (twenty years ago) link

"the slider"

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 19 May 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

Damn, Tracer, are we finding the theme to your next dj night here or something? What is going on?

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 19 May 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

it's your fault ally!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

heartbreaker strikes again!

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

the full 12-minute version of 'i'd do anything for love (but i won't do that)' is fucking incredible

mookieproof, Sunday, 9 June 2019 03:05 (four years ago) link

it never flags

mookieproof, Sunday, 9 June 2019 03:06 (four years ago) link

i'd flag long before the 12th minute of Meat Loaf

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 June 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link

Perceived ambiguity of "that"
Meat Loaf says that the question, "What is 'that'?" is one of the most popular questions he is asked.[5]

Each verse mentions two things that the man would do for love, followed by one thing that he will not do. The title phrase repetition reasserts that he "won't do that." Each mention of "that" is a reference to the particular promise that he made earlier in the same verse.[6] The four things he says he will never do are:

"forget the way you feel right now"
"forgive myself if we don't go all the way tonight"
"do it better than I do it with you"
"stop dreaming of you every night of my life"
At the song's conclusion, the woman predicts two things that he will do: "You'll see that it's time to move on", and "You'll be screwing around." To both of these, the male emphatically responds, "I won't do that!"

In his 1998 VH1 Storytellers special, Meat Loaf even explained it on stage using a blackboard and a pointing stick.[6] In a 1993 promotional interview, Steinman states that the definition of "that" is fully revealed in the song in each of the several verses in which it is mentioned. This sense would have been more clear if the lyric had been "and I won't do that" instead of "but I won't do that." It is the use of "but" instead of "and" that leads to the ambiguity.

It sort of is a little puzzle and I guess it goes by - but they're all great things. 'I won't stop doing beautiful things and I won't do bad things.' It's very noble. I'm very proud of that song because it's very much like out of the world of Excalibur. To me, it's like Sir Lancelot or something - very noble and chivalrous. That's my favorite song on the record - it's very ambitious.[7][8]

Meat Loaf believed that the lyrics were unambiguous, but Steinman predicted that they would cause confusion.[9] An early episode of the VH1 program Pop-up Video made this claim at the end of the song's video: "Exactly what Meat Loaf won't do for love remains a mystery to this day."[10] A reviewer writing for AllMusic commented that "The lyrics build suspense by portraying a romance-consumed lover who pledges to do anything in the name of love except 'that,' a mysterious thing that he will not specify."[11] Frank O'day says the lyrics provide "an enlightening example of how listeners project their own thoughts, values, and concerns onto the meaning of the song with misconstrued lyrics."[4]

The phrase "I would do anything for love but I won't do that" had previously appeared as a spoken interlude in the song "Getting So Excited," released in 1985 by Bonnie Tyler in her album Faster Than the Speed of Night. In this song, the phrase's meaning is more clear: a woman is refusing an offensive proposal. Steinman produced this record and wrote many of the songs but this song is credited to Alan Gruner.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Sunday, 9 June 2019 03:11 (four years ago) link

xp don't sell yourself short

mookieproof, Sunday, 9 June 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link

Sorry, but this song was a feces-filled piƱata poised over 1993 like the sword of Damocles.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Sunday, 9 June 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link


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