The Frogs. (Edit -- Dennis Flemion RIP)

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I just got back from the triumphant "25th Anniversary" show at the Cactus in Milwaukee tonight. Despite the worst efforts of pathetic drunk attention whore jackasses in the crowd to thwart the rock, it was a successful fiasco once again. They are still geniuses (Milwaukee-bred geniuses at that, he added proudly). Jimmy is really cute when he wears the bear hat as part of his costume. Everybody who thinks that all they are is stupid jokes and shitty(!) music (such as the "expert" idiots on the other older thread) will never know what they're missing (or walking) out on. Too bad for them. That is all.

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 29 October 2005 07:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think Racially Yours is a comedy album at all.

You're right-- it is absolutely not. It might help to see them perform the stuff live. They opened tonight's show with Jimmy singing "Now You Know You're Black". It would seem that not being able to get past their use of scatology to see the point of their using it is a big part of why many just don't get it.

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 29 October 2005 07:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

So glad to know they're still playing. I actually dug up It's Only Right and Natural this weekend & fell in love with it all over again. "Here comes the watermelon seed up your snoot-snout..."

Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


Now is their website finally back?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(I guess not -- I find this:

But then the link provided there doesn't work.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"cuz i'm evil............JACK!"

i made my mom listen to It's Only Right+Natural...she laughed, a lot.

eedd, Saturday, 29 October 2005 15:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ned, that Frogs site was up and active as of a few weeks ago-- they had an MP3 track of the month up for October and everything. I forgot to ask anyone last night what was up with it-- I did talk to Jimmy for a minute (he seems to be the designated merch table guy for their shows) to say thanks after the show, but I don't think they're directly involved with it anyway. With any luck the outage will be corrected soon.

Chris F. (servoret), Sunday, 30 October 2005 07:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
When I first met the girl who would later become my wife, the first track that I ever played her when she came back to mine was The Frogs 'My Goat Just Died Tonight'

I gather from this thread, their still active - any new websites I've given up looking.

I must be one of a handful of UK fans with all their studio work - I love it all

sonicred (sonicred), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I only have It's Only Right & Natural, but got a copy with an absolutely glorious promo photo that I should really have framed for the front room. Anyhow, that album is totally worth it for the "I'll stick it in your eye socket, young man" line alone.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

You should go further, The Frogs, banimals and Hopscotch Lollipop Sunday Surprise
all have great songs on them.

Racially Yours is good too, but as near the knuckle on race as Right and Natural is with homosexuality

sonicred (sonicred), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i played with the frogs once. they were jerkoffs.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sorry dude. Hope you brought napkins.

Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

And not only that, it leads to a new Frogs webpage at long last!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
I've been listening to nothing but my $10 Frogs-burnt bootleg of It's Only Right and Natural in the car for the last two weeks now, and I'm pumped! They play again in Milwaukee at the Cactus Club next Saturday the 22nd-- be there or be cool somewhere else. I'll probably be wearing my "Knowing Is Half The Battle" T-shirt to the show, if anyone else here makes it and wants to say hi.

Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
I love life. I am listening to the Frogs from a rehearsal tape they did for a show opening up for the Smashing Pumpkins in 1997...doing Smashing Pumpkins songs, very much in their style.

"Who is righteous
What is bold...
Because I'm BALD!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 November 2006 06:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The tracklist, BTW:

01 Cherub Rock

02 Rhinoceros/Hey Joe

03 Disarm/Gylcerine

04 I Am One/Immigrant Song/L.A. Woman/Fame/Pets

05 Luna/Jane Says

06 Silverfuck/Violet/Smells Like Teen Spirit/Today/Baba O'Riley/Yer Blues

07 (Cobain's Killer -> Courtney)

08 Sleep On The Street

09 Raped/Weird On the Avenue

10 The Longing Goes Away

11 Fuck Off

12 Whisper

13 Bad Daddy

14 Adam & Steve (with Steve Albini references)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 November 2006 06:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Are they selling this on their site? Please say yes

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 November 2006 09:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I don't think so...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 November 2006 13:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Gaaahh... I'll be patient, they seem to sell every other utterance they've uttered on there

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the frogs were the biggest assholes i ever met.

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

and this surprised you?

Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

um, not really, although i was a little surprised when the shorter dude was doing yoga stretches in nothing but his black brief underwear backstage and then asked me an a bandmate to leave the area (which was for all the bands) because he was "trying to get in the zone"

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You kinda have to see the Frogs first, especially with a weird, semi-hostile audience, before you play with them on a bill. You get a lot of perspective this way... they're very reserved off stage, and they're very much not "Hey! How ya doin? :D" guys at all. A quick walk by the merch booth will give off that vibe in a second.

Not defending assholes being assholes. Just in the Frogs' case, it helps to know a bit about their history.

M@tt, was Dennis mean to you after the yoga thing?

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i dunno, they just seemed kinda irritated and real short whenever they had to speak to anyone the whole night...we were a little pissed abt. the money too, cuz they gave us $25 out of $900 and we had as many people there as they did. but whatever, it happens. it's not like they punched my mom or something.

...anyway i prolly should just shut up, maybe they are great dudes or something, i just got a sort of assholey "pro" vibe from them, might be an abberation or just me being over-sensitive...carry on!

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

well, they've been playing live since 1984, so they are "pro" in that sense... they know exactly what they're doing and how to do it live. Not going to defend any other aspect here other than "some people have off nights or aren't that chummy *shrug*". (The money thing sounds more like a club issue, but I obv. don't know the details there, although I've dealt with money issues at shows before, behind the scenes)

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

I just found It's Only Right & Natural on vinyl at my store. Worth getting?

Evan, Friday, 26 March 2010 05:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

um , YES!!

Stormy Davis, Friday, 26 March 2010 07:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

seriously, grab it before someone else does..

Stormy Davis, Friday, 26 March 2010 07:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Alright, thanks! The store-owner's ignorance is paying off. Its only within 5 - 8 dollars (forget exactly). Unless thats similar to what it goes for online... Its too early I can't remember much.

Evan, Friday, 26 March 2010 13:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

You sleazy prostitute!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 26 March 2010 14:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

i only have Hopscotch.. "The Longing Goes Away" sounds like it could have been a huge song really, is it actually deadpan serious?

Kim, Sunday, 5 September 2010 14:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Unprompted, my sister is playing Bananimals. "I'm EVIL Jack!"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 September 2010 16:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

My Daughter the Broad rather. It's all good.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 September 2010 16:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...


one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

La da da da
La da da dee
La da da dum dum

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

wtf this alb is amazn.. i never knew

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Here comes the watermelon seed up my snoot snout
And that's yr asshole, your snoot snout

Heaven knows I'm thirsty and miserable now (NickB), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 08:05 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

What the! Dennis Flemion died over the weekend!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:30 (six years ago) Permalink

awful news!!

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:40 (six years ago) Permalink

From Gerard Cosloy:

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 02:01 (six years ago) Permalink

this sucks.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 02:04 (six years ago) Permalink

the news, not the frogs.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 02:04 (six years ago) Permalink

So I never told this story here but -- upthread I talk about randomly seeing them in San Diego. A few days later I was in Seattle and so donut bitch/Mackro and I went to see them again, part of the same tour. So they get to the "Hot Cock Annie" performance, which of course is the cue for them to invite an audience member onstage to sing the song if they feel so bold. First guy up is drunk as hell and nothing really happens, he just semi sings things and all. Dennis, without a missing a beat (neither did anyone else on stage, just playing along), dares the guy to drop his pants if he's not going to do anything else. So the dude turns to face him and does so. Again, without missing a beat, Dennis turns his head and scrunches up his face/sticks out his tongue in a classic "EURGH!" look, then turns back and says "That looks like something that should be at the county fair!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 02:13 (six years ago) Permalink

I emailed Dennis in about 1999 (I THINK it was him and not Jimmy) just to see if he'd write back and he said something like "Write back? Send me $10 and I'll send you a live tape that will make your ass stand on end". I think I was asking them if they were ever going to come to the UK.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 03:21 (six years ago) Permalink

The first time my future wife and I exchanged emails in 2003, she attached an mp3 of 'Hot Cock Annie'.


Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 03:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I spoke to one of em on the phone once. Never cared for the records.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 04:18 (six years ago) Permalink

His body was recovered last night.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:06 (six years ago) Permalink

jesus this is hitting me really hard. these guys were legends around here.

frogbs, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

we threw him the life preserver, he was struggling

arrrrgh ;_;

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

dang. saw them in the basement of a coffee shop back in like 2000 maybe. wish i could remember it better but i was on drugs that would blow your mind

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:43 (six years ago) Permalink

miss these dudes and miss this guy. i hope hope hope the show i went to (portland ME 2001) will come out. i know it was recorded because they kept talking about posterity until they got in a fight with the soundguy who pulled the plug

toandos, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:19 (six years ago) Permalink

That SUCKS, I missed the news story. They were great live. "he played the organ". God bless him. RIP.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Truck Bombing Begins at Home (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 12 July 2012 05:30 (six years ago) Permalink

"I am listening to the Frogs from a rehearsal tape they did for a show opening up for the Smashing Pumpkins in 1997...doing Smashing Pumpkins songs, very much in their style."

Is this findable? That sounds incredible.

― Walter Galt, Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:31 AM (1 week ago)

By good chance -- turns out some hyper Pumpkins fan out there has been uploading this very thing earlier today. So I give you:

Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 July 2012 05:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Or just a playlist if you like:

Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 July 2012 05:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the links Ned; interesting to hear.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Sunday, 29 July 2012 10:23 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Been getting aquainted with some less known Frogs numbers which are indeed making my ass stand on end.
Namely 'The Wild Mouth Of The Buck-Toothed Priest' and the truly terrifying 'New In Town Sailor'.

Supper's Burnt (PaulTMA), Monday, 27 August 2012 23:17 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

So looks like Jimmy Flemion and Billy Corgan have been doing a few things together lately after Dennis's passing -- here's some stuff just after Dennis's memorial service at his house:

And this was the other night in Austin:

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 September 2012 00:55 (six years ago) Permalink

If Jimmy joined the Pumpkins I would actually go and see them

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Via Jimmy on FB/elsewhere:

Hello everybody. I set up a new p.o. box :

The Frogs
P.O. Box 81234
Austin, TX 78708

To those of you who have expressed interest in sending fan mail, tapes and things, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. In the past we have allowed taping @ our shows, with the understanding whoever taped or filmed agreeing to send us a copy. Unfortunately more often then not, those who taped or filmed and said they would send us a copy never did. That was one of the main reasons we reluctantly allowed taping or filming. If some of you are out there, I ask to do the right thing and please, send your tapes, cd's or dvd's to the new p.o. box. It would mean so much to me, especially now.

Also, I've started a blog @, stay tuned.

My greatest challenge is communication, as well as my greatest reward.

From my heart to yours,

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:05 (six years ago) Permalink

And that tumblr he mentions is now up:

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 October 2012 13:13 (six years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

La da da da
La da da dee
La da da dum dum

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:13 PM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


sleepingbag, Sunday, 28 January 2018 02:49 (one year ago) Permalink

^^^^ i had that song stuck in my head today out of nowhere, prolly haven't listened to these dudes in 10 years

oh charming rabbit slut boy
where did you come from
was it england or TOKYO?

sleepingbag, Sunday, 28 January 2018 03:06 (one year ago) Permalink

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