― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 February 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― chaki, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― NSFW, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link
http://68.media.tumblr.com/13d46273e4c9069f73c615d5b9d3309a/tumblr_opjrj1p13Z1uc3ovio1_1280.jpg
― bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
hmm
https://www.facebook.com/hermano/videos/10214723690180350/
― anvil, Monday, 28 January 2019 06:14 (five years ago) link
Tie-dye t-shirts with big streaks of black in them are one of my favorite genre of tie-dyes.
― peace, man, Monday, 28 January 2019 11:02 (five years ago) link
i don't understand how he can believe this and still be "friends" with alex jones. is he just opportunistic or really fucking dumb?
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 28 January 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link
why not both
― maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 28 January 2019 13:13 (five years ago) link
it's just kinda weird.
i'm not a "de-platforming" guy and i have nothing in principle against him having these alt right figures on his podcast (he has had everyone from milo to gavin mcinness to alex jones and, most famously, jordan peterson). but in his conversations with these people he barely pushes back on their ideas, if at all. he is probably as responsible as anyone else for jordan peterson's rise. if he really wants to build a more compassionate society, and if he really cares about the welfare of refugees at the border, he should be more skeptical of these people (to put it lightly)
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 28 January 2019 13:23 (five years ago) link
think it's been a while since he was tight with jones, voiced skepticism about lol sandy hook truthery. the thing you learn with rogan is he'll mostly go along with whoever he's got on (that tie dyed video, i assume from the voice duncan trussell was the guest), so, like last week? it was bari weiss and then killer mike, so you've got clips of him on the war on poverty with killer mike and then he's got a clip with bari weiss on "anti-semitism by progressives." some intellectual darkweb guys are so dumb that majority report can pull clips of him dunking on jp or dave rubin by just picking at the seams of their arguments. but he's usually very credulous, so depending on the guest, he might be getting horrified by the treatment of white south african farmers or all aboard board with medicare for all. i mean, overall, despite his preoccupation with free speech and welcoming alt-right guests, he has the fairly moderate libtard opinions expected from a 50something coastal elite dude + very mild conspiracy theory stuff (more fbi assassinations of radical leaders and less chemtrails these days).
― XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, 28 January 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link
yeah, "credulous" is a better word for what i'm talking about than "dumb." he does seem to look for the "best" in his guests, which is a good personality trait i suppose, but it's weird when it leads him to giving pretty egregious right wing figures the chance to prove that they too can hang
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 28 January 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link
idk but isn't his thing that he DOESN'T push back?
I'd never actually seen or heard him till recently (though I knew he was famous for the podcast I hadn't seen anything until maybe two months ago). From what I've seen he just kind of agrees with whichever guest he has on, maybe the only real consistency around the idea of "free speech" - which I don't think of as exclusively a 'modern right wing thing'.
he has a big audience, if he's saying stuff like this he either believes it or thinks enough of his audience does, or both?
― anvil, Monday, 28 January 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link
i think his audience are mostly liberals or else vaguely apolitical libertarians. i've gotten texts from friends asking me to help them formulate reasons why jordan peterson is wrong. they know he's wrong, but they're kinda turned around after hearing the podcast where rogan agreed with the stuff he was saying and made it seem like common sense.
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 28 January 2019 13:34 (five years ago) link
full disclosure: that happened one time. i don't why i made it plural.
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 28 January 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link
i actually don't think rogan is any dumber or more credulous than the average american newsmedia personality, though, and probably less reactionary and definitely less cold-blooded. i also i think his working class roots show (how lame that sounds writing it on ilx in this spirited defense of joe rogan!), like he was set by 30 but still grew up the kid of a single mom, raised in newton mass, didn't go to college etc. it's ridiculous to suggest he's being taken advantage of by right wing grifters but intellectually he's quite often bullied; he has that anti-intellectual streak that makes america great, where he'll express an idea, like, why would you go to college and major in history when you can just listen to dan carlin's hardcore history? or, why would a kid go a hundred grand into debt getting a humanities degree when the great lectures are on youtube, ted talks, jordan peterson lecturing on the hero's journey and jung! he'd rather grapple with ideas from his own perspective and knowledge, which leaves him vulnerable to the elite-level sophistry of, say, candace owens or jordan p (if you put him against a neanderthal reactionary like owen benjamin or 2019 nick dipaolo, he does fine). he does push back! but it's usually ineffective.
― XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, 28 January 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link
great posts dylann
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 January 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link
Yea i agree—good analysis. There is something charmingly populist about him and I understand why the podcast is popular. But yeah, he is a good mark for the peterson’s of the world
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 28 January 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link
he does seem pretty consistent on a few other issues though, such as "fat people are gross" and "forced diversity ruined Star Wars"
― frogbs, Monday, 28 January 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link
Lol
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 28 January 2019 15:28 (five years ago) link
being friends with Dana White probably messes up your brain
― mh, Monday, 28 January 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link
credit where credit's due, rogan played a key role in destroying elon musk's career
― maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 28 January 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link
i think his audience are mostly liberals or else vaguely apolitical libertarians.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link
The youtube viewers are all young white dudes on the alt-right pipeline (ala everything else on youtube)
Really?
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 28 January 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
all I use Youtube for is 70s albums and bootleg audiobooks and I still get Jordan Peterson videos in my Up Next
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 28 January 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
dylann otm
also i think politically his audience might be somewhat diverse, might skew male for sure but i think some people who might want to hear the interview w/ a mycologist or a neuroscientist from uc berkeley talking sleep might not be the same people who listen to the mma bullshit or the comedian interviews
― marcos, Monday, 28 January 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link
dylann nailed it
I enjoy his show, particularly when he has comedians/his friends on. I like whenever they talk about a comedian's creative process at length - at once totally foreign to me, but as an artist, interesting and familiar and sometimes fascinating. he makes otherwise intolerable or uninteresting personalities interesting to me - Burr, Fitzsimmons, Segura, Papa, Christina P... I'd rather listen to a comedian talk about the process and just have a conversation rather than listening to or watching their act.
and because the show is so successful you get these amazing one-offs - Roseanne, Elon Musk, Alex Jones - where Rogan is in on the joke. the rightwing "intellectual" episodes are insufferable because as dylann said, Rogan defers to them. fawning over JP is one thing, but Dave Rubin? Seriously?
― flappy bird, Monday, 28 January 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
He's going to have Jack from Twitter on this Friday.
― peace, man, Monday, 28 January 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link
Awesome
― flappy bird, Monday, 28 January 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link
The youtube viewers are all young white dudes on the alt-right pipeline (ala everything else on youtube)Really?― Trϵϵship, Monday, January 28, 2019 12:01 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkall I use Youtube for is 70s albums and bootleg audiobooks and I still get Jordan Peterson videos in my Up Next― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, January 28, 2019 12:09 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Trϵϵship, Monday, January 28, 2019 12:01 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, January 28, 2019 12:09 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so i just realized i had these too in my up next. what the fuck
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 31 January 2019 04:22 (five years ago) link
Some of it's really broad reasoning, I blocked an advertiser on Facebook or Instagram and under the reasons why I was seeing it was just 'men in the southern US' basically.
If Youtube/Google knows your demographic information, it just runs with the "males between 25-49 in the United States watch a ton of Jordan Peterson clips."
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 31 January 2019 04:27 (five years ago) link
it's worth noting that even if you have no data/history for YouTube to scrape, it still suggests an entire platter of Joe Rogan videos right on the front page.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 31 January 2019 09:46 (five years ago) link
Lol Alex Jones said "Rogan IS the Deep State"
― anvil, Thursday, 31 January 2019 10:04 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9p6jRHDZ0E
rogan and jones in happier times
― XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Thursday, 31 January 2019 11:16 (five years ago) link
god yes for all the whining about "liberal" algorithms you really cannot click a single one of these videos without getting flooded with "JOE ROGAN TAKES ON NEW GILLETTE COMMERIAL" or "BILL BURR DESTROYS FEMINISM IN 6 MINUTES!!!" for the next 2 months
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:48 (five years ago) link
― maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara)
elon musk played the most key role in destroying elon musk's career, he still sucks
― The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link
and yeah i installed a dodgy russian chrome plugin just so i wouldn't have to see youtube recommending me jordan peterson and joe rogan videos, now everything i do on the internet is probably going directly to some russian oligarch or another but at this point i trust russian oligarchs more than i trust youtube's recommendation engine
― The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:52 (five years ago) link
If you ever click on anything but music or channels you subscribe to, go in and delete the videos from your Youtube history. That's kept me Rogan/feminazi destroyed-free for months now.
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link
lmao if you didn't think Russian oligarchs could see all that anyway rusho
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
I purposefully reject every Jordan Peterson suggestion I get and yet they still keep coming. I click on "I don't like this" but it never stops
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link
its called courtship, ums
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link
i watched one bill burr video like 4 years ago and my suggestion algorithm is basically diarrhea now
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link
haha yeah I think I watched a ton of Norm McDonald on talk show appearances and also watched a few Rogans after I started with Leia Remini breaking down the weird ass Scientology shit she went through (which was actually really interesting)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link
Surprised so many ppl are bothered by YouTube recommendations
― flappy bird, Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link
YouTube has become a quiet powerhouse of political radicalization in recent years, powered by an algorithm that a former employee says suggests increasingly fringe content. And far-right YouTubers have learned to exploit that algorithm and land their videos high in the recommendations on less extreme videos.
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link
Its weird how out in the open that is but still easy to overlook
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
More leftists should probably try to go on rogan. Seems like a pretty easy way to get your ideas out there.
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:11 (five years ago) link
He's had a few - Kyle Kulinski on a couple of times, Jimmy Dore and Tulsi Gabbard. I wonder if AOC might go on
― anvil, Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link
Not that she exactly needs the platform or profile boost but its a guest-friendly format for sure
― anvil, Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
lol Dore and Gabbard's leftist credentials are uh questionable iirc
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
Kyle Kulinski on a couple of times, Jimmy Dore and Tulsi Gabbard
ignorant of kulinski but a pizza-gater and an anti-gay, clash of civilizations crusader are not a particularly good representation of "the left"
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
yeah i remember when little green footballs was the worst place on the entire internet
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 05:51 (two years ago) link
Isn’t there some indie rock Chuck Johnson too?
― Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note I'm (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 07:14 (two years ago) link
he's an ambient pedal steel dude
― Number None, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 09:54 (two years ago) link
He floats above it.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 10:14 (two years ago) link
yikes
In another old clip posted online, Rogan responds to a guest who has a Black dad and a white mom by saying, “Powerful combination genetic-wise, right? You get the body of the Black man and then you get the mind of the white man all together in some strange combination. That doesn’t mean, by the way, that Black people don’t have brains. It’s a different brain.”
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 14:47 (two years ago) link
This is your periodic reminder that Chuck C. Johnson is NOT ME.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 6, 2022
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link
Charles Johnson from Little Green Footballs has quite the resume:
1976 School Days with Stanley Clarke 1977 I'm Fine, How Are You with Airto Moreira 1977 Reach for It with George Duke 1977 Easy Living with Sonny Rollins 1976 Garden of Love Light with Narada Michael Walden 1978 Don't Let Go with George Duke 1978 Don't Ask My Neighbors with Raul de Souza 1979 Follow the Rainbow with George Duke 1979 Future Street with Pages 1980 Nielsen Pearson with Nielsen Pearson 1980 Rocks, Pebbles and Sand with Stanley Clarke 1981 Pages [1981] with Pages 1982 Dream On with George Duke 1983 Not the Boy Next Door with Peter Allen 1984 In London with Al Jarreau 1984 Live in London with Al Jarreau 1987 All In the Name of Love with Atlantic Starr 1988 Guitar Workshop: Tribute to with Otis Redding 1989 One Passion with Michael Paulo 1993 Art & Survival with Dianne Reeves 1994 L.A. with Hiroshima 1995 Piel Ajena with Eduardo Capetillo 1996 George Duke Greatest Hits with George Duke 1996 Is That the Way to Your Heart with Kazu Matsui 1998 A Song a Day 2000 When I Hold You in My Heart with Clay Mortensen 2000 Rare Collection with Jaco Pastorius 2001 Pages [2001] with Pages 2003 Punk Jazz: The Jaco Pastorius Anthology with Jaco Pastorius 2003 In Between the Heartaches with Phyllis Hyman
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 15:32 (two years ago) link
Why should I change my name? He's the one who sucks.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link
thx for that Rogan trans wrap-up, C. Grisso
― Nhex, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link
Lmao at him clarifying he doesn't think black people don't have brains. Cmon that'd be ridiculous, he just thinks they have shitty ones.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 16:37 (two years ago) link
Yeah, Rogan's defense for saying racist things seems to be "I didn't mean that horribly racist interpretation, I meant the still pretty racist interpretation"
― Vinnie, Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:26 (two years ago) link
imagine being Joe Rogan and having Serious Thoughts about someone else’s brain being ‘different’
― concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Thursday, 10 February 2022 00:47 (two years ago) link
Oh look at Bill Maher & Joe Rogan hanging out pic.twitter.com/ufpqiGngaT— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) April 13, 2022
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 13 April 2022 22:55 (two years ago) link
these guys are such stooges
Oh my God. Joe Rogan tried to say Biden is unqualified by claiming he said something that TRUMP said.He got fact checked in real time. This is amazing. (h/t @Mediaite) pic.twitter.com/qlY9xvPhOS— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) December 22, 2023
― frogbs, Friday, 22 December 2023 18:54 (three months ago) link
lol @ all the dickriders saying this is how it shows Rogan is more transparent than mainstream media, by allowing himself to be corrected in real time (as opposed to actually fact-checking it before he ran with it in the first place)
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 December 2023 19:15 (three months ago) link
"that's the thing about media these days, you gotta look into it"
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 22 December 2023 20:09 (three months ago) link
amazing how the tone shifts from "someone needs to get him out of there" to "well he clearly misspoke" once it's revealed who it actually is
― frogbs, Friday, 22 December 2023 21:38 (three months ago) link