MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

Somehow I managed to be away from a computer during the big finish, but well done, all. Many thanks to rogermexico for handling the poll so smoothly in spite of jury duty etc.

After the Zep and Bowie polls, I was not ready to hear any more of either for a while, but I think I might be stuck on the Stones a little longer.

Here's my ballot --

1. Gimme Shelter
2. Sway
3. Moonlight Mile
4. Monkey Man
5. Can't You Hear Me Knocking
6. No Expectations
7. You Can't Always Get What You Want
8. Stray Cat Blues
9. Let's Spend The Night Together
10. Play With Fire
11. Dead Flowers
12. Jigsaw Puzzle
13. Live With Me
14. The Spider & The Fly
15. All Down The Line
16. Ventilator Blues
17. Loving Cup
18. Rocks Off
19. Tumbling Dice
20. Rip This Joint

I didn't vote here only because I know only about half their songs, and didn't have time to go on a listening binge of late, and didn't want my mainstreamy ballot squeezing out worthy obscurities. I'd never heard "2000 Light Years" or "Jig-Saw" or "Loving Cup" until this rollout, and they all would have bumped something else off my top 20 (though I was actually saving the #20 slot for "Mixed Emotions", no kidding), and there's still some high-placing songs I've never heard that I need to check out. But I'm pleased most of would-have-been picks made the cut ("As Tears Go By" the only glaring ommision - and one of the first songs I learned to play on guitar).

I was guessing "Tumbling Dice" would be #1. I like "Gimme Shelter", but I'd never have expected it to be the runaway winner, and may not have even made my ballot. Stoked that "No Expectations" made the top 10.

Man, such a good time. No real problems with the placement of stuff, though I was one of the 10 votes who did not vote for "Gimme Shelter". Would have made a top 30, just not my top 20. I have had "Rocks Off" stuck in my head for at least 24 hours, wish I had voted it even higher! Maybe shoulda been my #1.

My ballot:

Moonlight Mile
Let's Spend The Night Together
Street Fighting Man
Happy
No Expectations
Rocks Off
Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow
Winter
Child Of The Moon
She's A Rainbow
Dandelion
Stray Cat Blues
Can’t You Hear Me Knocking
Monkey Man
Paint It Black
Emotional Rescue
Sympathy For The Devil
19th Nervous Breakdown
I Am Waiting
2000 Man

Thanks again roger, great great job.

My ballot, dashed off in a hurry. Would probably be different on any given day, but I love all of these. And yes, I'm an unapologetic fan of Stones Baroque.

Ruby Tuesday
Sympathy for the Devil
Shattered
Start Me Up
Paint It Black
Get Off My Cloud
Mother's Little Helper
Rip This Joint
2000 Man
Jumpin Jack Flash
Miss You
19th Nervous Breakdown
She's So Cold
Have You Seen Your Mother Baby, Standing in the Shadow?
Sweet Virginia
Street Fighting Man
Dead Flowers
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Lady Jane
Something Happened to Me Yesterday

Albums

Aftermath
Exile on Main Street
Sticky Fingers
Between the Buttons
Some Girls

To answer a question posed three days ago by Alfred ("does anyone dislike BOB?"): Yes, hate it. (I consulted the rule book, and it clearly states that the acronym should only ever be used for Blonde on Blonde.) Was I the only vote for "Prodigal Son"?

rule book updated years ago: should only be used for 'bombs over baghdad'.

Nice! That might make a good three-way poll.

Was I the only vote for "Prodigal Son"?

I was thisclose to voting for it, but settled on Parachute Woman instead for the guitar riff. But Prodigal Son is so great. My favorite part is Mick's "Heyyyy" at the end, it sounds like he touched a hot plate or something.

I'd actually never heard the original until a few months ago (something prompted me to look for it one day):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylud4u1aAKI

GOOGLE DOC FOR THE WONKS AND DATA MINERS

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlaC0Fq2y5GXdFJhaFYwT3o2WFEzZXFLWnE2bTJHSVE

This one is tracks only but if anyone's interested I can post Albums as well. Looking forward to the findings!

Nerds, start you engines...

Whoa did not expect to see my irl name in there

Aw, nobody else voted for "Mona"! ;_;

Thanks, roger m. Exemplary roll out.

Haven't got my ballot handy on this PC, but my #1 was J J F and my 3 non-placers were:

- Little Red Rooster (my #2)
- I'm A King Bee (I was the only voter for this - ILM don't got the blues?)
- Soul Survivor (only thing from Exile I voted for; I've tried and tried but still don't get most of that album. "Rocks Off" is also good. The rest? No thanks.)

I voted for LRR. I wonder why exactly ILMers don't seem to like the early blues stuff...

Weird, I didn't think I'd be the only one who voted for "Miss Amanda Jones" and "All Sold Out".

i dunno if it's "don't like" so much as "ouch, top 20 huh"

yeah, i guess--it's definitely not on the top of the list if you got only 20
(btw, run don't walk to get yourself a copy of the Stones in Exile DVD...fantastic!)

Stones in Exile apparently on Netflix streaming, btw.

It's All Over Now is on the spreadsheet twice....

argh. curly vs non-curly apostrophes. thought i find-replaced all of them. lost vote would have placed "It's All Over Now" at 52.

“It’s a good story to say that what was created at Nellcôte was a result of the incredibly decadent atmosphere,” Mr. Jagger said. “Well, yeah: it’s probably true that the atmosphere affected the feeling of the music, and the sound of the studio. But you’ve no idea how much or how little. And in the end, it’s just a sort of myth, really.”

Can he hear the sound of the Nellcôte studios when he listens to the album?

“I’ve no idea which is the Nellcôte stuff and which isn’t, to be honest.”

Ah.

Mr. Richards feels differently. “All of the bone and the muscle of the record was done down in that basement,” he said when asked the same question. The rest of the work he considers “fairy dust.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/arts/music/23stones.html

He referenced that godawful Greenfield "Season In Hell" book. Man I really fucking hated that book.

I've really come to love how unsentimental Jagger is. No opportunity is missed to puncture the myth. He leaves you in no doubt that you have to love it for what it is, not for some bunch of hokum.

Yeah but it's all borne out of him hating the attention it gets for being "Keith's" album. That's 100% of why he's doing it. It's not like he's speaking truth to power..

That Greenfield book is terrible. He's constantly warning you, as portentously as bad writing allows, that you're about to enter into a world of depravity unprecedented in the entire history of the world; unless you weren't aware that drugs were on the set during the Mick Taylor era, you spend the whole book waiting for a someday that never comes. He also singles out "Jumpin' Jack Flash" as one of Sticky Fingers' highlights.

It's one of few books I'd ever support burning

Clemenza otm. Cannot express enough how awful it is.

Speaking of bad writing, I'm nominating "a world of depravity unprecedented in the entire history of the world" for a "Live and Let Die" award.

lol

also re that NYT piece. Sub-heading should be "I dont really like Exile much and Mick agrees with me"

Props to whomever voted for "Ride on, Baby" - that's my favorite.

I considered it strongly but went with Sittin on a Fence for my Flowers pick.

my ballot

TOP 20 TRACKS
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Miss You
Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Gimme Shelter
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Wild Horses
You Can't Always Get What You Want
No Expectations
Tumblin' Dice
Salt Of The Earth
Time Is On My Side
Let's Spend The Night Together
Heaven
Love Is Strong
Beast of Burden
Under My Thumb
Mixed Emotions
Moonlight Mile
Thru And Thru
Dead Flowers

5 BEST ALBUMS
Sticky Fingers
Beggars' Banquet
Let It Bleed
Black And Blue
Voodoo Lounge

3 MOST HATED TRACKS
Sweet Virginia
Rocks Off
Torn And Frayed

Thru and Thru is pretty great

Ride On, Baby was mine, not one to sleep on

"Thru and Thru" has one of Keith's spectral vocal melodies, for which he bends notes, Arab style.

Out of nowhere: Ok doesn't it seem like "Brown Sugar" and "Start Me Up" come from a few years before their actual provenance? "Brown Sugar" wasn't around in 1969? Really? People weren't listening to "Start Me Up" in 1979? 1981 just doesn't scream "Start Me Up" to me.

it is mind-bogging to me that "Time Is On My Side" didn't place, makes sense that "Heaven" and that are just outside the top 60

also kind of surprised at the high placing of "Jumpin' Jack Flash," out of their big charging anthems it never woud've really occurred to me that that was so much more highly regard than "Street Fighting Man" or "Satisfaction" or "Brown Sugar"

Ride On, Baby has one of the great Mick/Keith joint (heh) vocals, Keith on harmony really but they sing the chorus together & it's glorious; Mick's "uh uh uh"s super too, remind me that I gotta run a girl group Stones songs poll one of these days because it was one of their best looks imo

I dunno, I've always thought Street Fighting Man an inferior Jumpin Jack Flash, could have the latter placing much higher here

plus I secretly love the Whoopi flick, esp. the scene when she tries to figure out the lyric & wonders about a lesbian wind

whuuuut... Street Fighting Man inferior Jumping Jack Flash?

I'm going to have to scratch my head on that one for a while, Euler

same kinda riff & churn, always sounded like same-ish songs to me

"Ride On, Baby" was my last cut

Ride On, Baby has one of the great Mick/Keith joint (heh) vocals, Keith on harmony really but they sing the chorus together & it's glorious

You know, Keith sings on that, but the big harmony part is Mick singing with himself.

I agree that it's glorious. Just one of my favorite things ever.

ah really, I just hear Keith's high lonesome on the eg FBI file part

& on the title phrase too, duh me

I don't know how often this was done, but the "FBI file" part of the chorus is one of those instances where you can't tell if the lower or the upper part is the melody. Neither of them sound like the melody, really, but together something happens that works.

Try to sing it and you'll see - you don't know what the melody is!

And needless to say, that's some next level stuff.

I'm the only voter for Tell Me? how is this possible?

so I added up the tracks points for each album (up through the top 60 tracks) and this is what I came up with

15. 12 X 5 (152 points)
14. Undercover (167 points)
13. Emotional Rescue (209 points)
12. Tattoo You (481 points)
11. Goats Head Soup (568 points)
10. Their Satanic Majesties Request (722 points)
9. Between The Buttons (922 points)
8. Out Of Our Heads (977 points)
7. Some Girls (1265 points)
6. Flowers (1474 points)
5. Aftermath (1762 points)
4. Beggars Bangquet (3265 points)
3. Let It Bleed (3699 points)
2. Exile On Main Street (3734 points)
1. Sticky Fingers (4143 points)

which changes things a little bit from the albums poll results:

10. (tie) Voodoo Lounge (11 points, 2 votes, one #1)
10. (tie) Flowers (11 points, 2 votes, one #1)
9. Tattoo You (11 points, 5 votes)
8. Their Satanic Majesties Request (31 points, 6 votes, one #1)
7. Between The Buttons (59 points, 12 votes, one #1)
6. Some Girls (61 points, 15 votes, two #1)
5. Aftermath (70 points, 17 votes, three #1)
4. Beggars Banquet (163 points, 33 votes, two #1)
3. Let It Bleed (169 points, 29 votes, eight #1)
2. Sticky Fingers (176 points, 30 votes, eight #1)
1. Exile on Main St. (269 points, 39 votes, fourteen #1)