MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

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"Connection" wuz robbed

― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, April 6, 2012 3:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hell yes, truth to power

Kinda surprised my #1 didn't place:

1. Rip This Joint
2. Jig-Saw Puzzle
3. Honky Tonk Women
4. Tumbling Dice
5. Street Fighting Man
6. I Don't Know Why
7. No Expectations
8. Torn And Frayed
9. Stray Cat Blues
10. Miss Amanda Jones
11. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
12. Monkey Man
13. Jumpin' Jack Flash
14. All Sold Out
15. Sway
16. We Love You
17. Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby (Standing In The Shadows)
18. Rocks Off
19. Dead Flowers
20. Something Happened To Me Yesterday

albums

1. Get Yer Ya-Yas Out! The Rolling Stones In Concert
2. Beggars Banquet
3. Exile On Main St.
4. Between The Buttons
5. Sticky Fingers

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

also blown away that "star star" (or "starfucker" or w/e) didn't make the cut. you people, i swear.

I LOVE Something Happened To Me Yesterday!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 April 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sad not to see CS Blues on here--absolute classic

Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 April 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

my top 20:

Child Of the Moon
2000 Light Years From Home
Connection
Sweet Black Angel (yeah, i know, wtf)
No Expectations
Back Street Girl
100 Years Ago
Summer Romance
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Rocks Off
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Gimme Shelter
Paint It, Black
Sympathy For The Devil
Get Off Of My Cloud
Sweet Virginia
2000 Man
Angie
Slave
Star Star

The weird thing about those isolated tracks for Gimme Shelter is that, other than the vocals and maybe Keith's solo on the intro, I'd never have guessed they were era-capturing performances. You know, the guitar's rough & ready, the piano good-timey and loose, Wyman's plunking away like a kid with his chord book propped open.

Even the mix is a bit muddy, but there's this weird alchemy in the full thing that brings elements out continually like demons from a bottle, or conjuring storms rolling across the plain. It's the one track, more than any other, where I feel sure there's a presence that isn't there by design. I call it The Magic. That's what I'm celebrating most.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

That said, here's my twenty (bold didn't place):

1. Dance (Pt.I)
2. Too Much Blood

3. Undercover (Of The Night)
4. One Hit (To The Body)
5. Heaven
6. Almost Hear You Sigh
7. Laugh, I Nearly Died
8. Anybody Seen My Baby?
9. Blinded By Rainbows
10. Love Is Strong

11. Feel On Baby
12. Out Of Tears

13. Waiting On A Friend
14. Saint Of Me
15. New Faces
16. Down In The Hole
17. Back Of My Hand
18. Gunface
19. Hearts For Sale
20. It Won't Take Long

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

lol i actually thought 'too much blood' and 'heaven' were locks somehow (on ilx at least) and last night i was half wondering if somehow someway thru the powers of soto 'one hit to the body' had made the top ten.

balls, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

My compliments to the poll-runner. And I wanna hear yr Jumpin Jack Flash karaoke sometime, rog.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

1) can't you hear me knocking
2) street fighting man
3) loving cup
4) sympathy for the devil
5) ventilator blues
6) gimme shelter
7) doo doo doo doo doo (heartbreaker)
8) salt of the earth
9) miss you
10) you can't always get what you want
11) tumbling dice
12) it's only rock and roll (but I like it)
13) jumpin' jack flash
14) slave
15) start me up
16) 19th nervous breakdown
17) waiting on a friend
18) jigsaw puzzle
19) dead flowers
20) shine a light

Albums
1) exile on main street
2) beggar's banquet
3) sticky fingers
4) let it bleed
5) tattoo you

BrianB, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

1. Jumpin Jack Flash
2. Satisfaction
3. Gimme Shelter
4. No Expectations
5. Ruby Tuesday
6. Mother’s Little Helper
7. Sympathy for the Devil (Ya-Ya’s version)
8. Let’s Spend the Night Together
9. We Love You
10. Tumbling Dice
11. Brown Sugar
12. It’s All Over Now
13. Little Red Rooster
14. Loving Cup
15. Honky Tonk Women
16. Cocksucker Blues
17. Let It Loose
18. Fool to Cry
19. Who’s Driving Your Plane?
20. Not Fade Away

Breaking it down by album: singles (5), Exile (3), Between the Buttons (2), and singletons from ENHM, Now!, 12x5, Aftermath, Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Get Your Ya-Ya's Out, Sticky Fingers, Black and Blue, and unreleased

I forgot to do the album part, but I guess it would be, in descending order, Exile, Let It Bleed, Ya-Ya's, Beggars Banquet, Sticky Fingers

THANK YOU ROGER!!!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

I forgot to say that I've spotified my ballot for anyone tired of all the boring rubbish that the hivemind served up during this whole fiasco.

Just kidding Roger - thanks for doing this, it's been amazing fun.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

street fighting man
gimme shelter
jumpin' jack flash
honky tonk women
2000 light years from home
under my thumb
(i can't get no) satisfaction
ruby tuesday
time is on my side
paint it, black
no expectations
let's spend the night together
tumbling dice
the last time
sympathy for the devil
can't you hear me knocking
you can't always get what you want
shattered
dead flowers
miss you

neutral sequence for flute (blank), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago) link

I dig how many album tracks placed. I didn't really vote for any album tracks, can't fight those singles.

neutral sequence for flute (blank), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

How the fuck did I forget to vote for Rocks Off

neutral sequence for flute (blank), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

Sway
Moonlight Mile
Sweet Virginia
I Wanna Be Your Man
Street Fighting Man
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Paint It, Black
Let It Loose
Brown Sugar
Salt of the Earth
Star Star
Sympathy For The Devil
Beast of Burden
Wild Horses
Angie
Winter
No Expectations
Gimme Shelter
Miss You
Fool To Cry

I didn't do albums but they would have been
Exile
Sticky Fingers
Let It Bleed
Beggars
Goat's Head Soup
(I think)

And I forgot most hated but they would have been:
Ruby Tuesday
Lady Jane
You Got Me Rocking (maybe)

Hugs, kisses, bouquets and a case of Stones wine for Rogermexico for putting this altogether. You're a Rainbow, Roger xoxoxo

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

*pokes head around the door*

*reads results*

No 'Lady Jane', no way.

*exits*

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

Greatest "Live With Me" ever?

http://youtu.be/96gXm6MW_Wo

Thanks for the hard work! Almost everything I voted for placed so that's nice for a change.

Kent Burt, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

hey Myonga, if you're still around --- can you give us a theoretical top 5 or 10 of what you would have voted, had you decided to damn the torpedoes and crash ILX for a third time? :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

HOW IT ALL WENT DOWN

Albums
10. (tie) Voodoo Lounge (11 points, 2 votes, one #1)
10. (tie) Flowers (11 points, 2 votes, one #1)
9. Tattoo You (11 points, 5 votes)
8. Their Satanic Majesties Request (31 points, 6 votes, one #1)
7. Between The Buttons (59 points, 12 votes, one #1)
6. Some Girls (61 points, 15 votes, two #1)
5. Aftermath (70 points, 17 votes, three #1)
4. Beggars Banquet (163 points, 33 votes, two #1)
3. Let It Bleed (169 points, 29 votes, eight #1)
2. Sticky Fingers (176 points, 30 votes, eight #1)
1. Exile on Main St. (269 points, 39 votes, fourteen #1)

Tracks
60. Sister Morphine - 123 points (6 votes)
59. Salt of the Earth - 125 points (6 votes)
58. Angie - 142 points TIE (7 votes)
58. Out of Time - 142 points TIE (9 votes)
57. It's All Over Now - 152 points (10 votes)
56. Mother's Little Helper - 164 points TIE (7 votes)
56. The Last Time - 164 points TIE (9 votes)
55. Shine A Light - 166 points (9 votes)
54. Undercover (Of The Night) - 167 points (8 votes)
53. Memo From Turner - 168 points (7 votes)
52. Back Street Girl - 169 points (7 votes)
51. Jig-Saw Puzzle - 183 points (9 votes)

50. Dandelion - 187 points (9 votes)
49. Start Me Up - 199 points (11 votes)
48. Winter - 205 points (9 votes)
47. You Got The Silver - 208 points (9 votes)
46. Emotional Rescue - 209 points (10 votes)
45. Live With Me - 217 points (10 votes)
44. I Am Waiting - 220 points (9 votes)
43. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) - 221 points (11 votes)
42. We Love You - 232 points (13 votes)
41. Ventilator Blues - 242 points (12 votes)

40. Child of the Moon – 243 points (10 votes, 1x #1)
39. Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? – 246 points (11 votes)
38. Midnight Rambler – 264 points (10 votes, 1x #1)
37. Play With Fire – 269 points (13 votes)
36. Happy – 274 points (13 votes)
35. Waiting on a Friend – 282 points (13 votes)
34. Shattered – 285 points (14 votes)
33. Let It Bleed – 299 points (11 votes, 3x #1)
32. Beast of Burden – 308 points TIE (14 votes)
32. Ruby Tuesday – 308 points (15 votes, 1x #1)
31. Loving Cup – 311 points (13 votes, 1x #1)

30. Bitch – 322 points (13 votes, 1x #1)
29. Get Off of My Cloud – 324 points (13 votes)
28. Sweet Virginia – 326 points (15 votes)
27. She’s A Rainbow – 344 points (16 votes)
26. Torn and Frayed – 350 points (15 votes)
25. 2000 Light Years From Home – 380 points (15 votes)
24. Honky Tonk Women – 411 points (18 votes)
23. Under My Thumb – 423 points (18 votes)
22. Let It Loose – 430 points (16 votes, 2x #1)
21. Let’s Spend The Night Together – 445 points (22 votes)
20. 19th Nervous Breakdown – 456 points (21 votes, 1x #1)
19. Wild Horses – 474 points (21 votes, 1x #1)
18. Dead Flowers – 502 points (25 votes)
17. You Can’t Always Get What You Want – 512 points (25 votes)
16. Monkey Man – 515 points (23 votes, 1x #1)
15. (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction – 544 points (23 votes)
14. Brown Sugar – 559 points (23 votes, 1x #1)
13. Moonlight Mile – 561 points (23 votes, 3x #1)
12. Stray Cat Blues – 577 points (24 votes, 2x #1)
11. Can’t You Hear Me Knocking – 585 points (23 votes, 4x #1)

10. Miss You – 672 points (28 votes, 1x #1)
09. Street Fighting Man – 685 points (27 votes, 4x #1)
08. No Expectations – 689 points (30 votes, 2x #1)
07. Tumbling Dice – 754 points (33 votes, 3x #1)
06. Paint It, Black – 813 points (35 votes, 3x #1)
05. Rocks Off – 881 points (35 votes, 2x #1)
04. Sway – 1017 points (37 votes, 8x #1)
03. Jumpin’ Jack Flash – 1023 points (41 votes, 5x #1)
02. Sympathy For The Devil – 1026 points (40 votes, 1x #1)
01. 1. Gimme Shelter – 1684 points (57 votes, 10x #1)

http://spoti.fi/HkKd6C

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

Great poll, guys. Thanks again for a tremendous trip down the rolling stones rabbit hole. These guys have made a lot of great music in 50 years. I kinda hope Mick goes the full Cohen in his old age. I kinda hope Keith's around to see it.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

That's kinda fascinating, that Sympathy only got 1 #1 but made it to second place anyway. The little devil that could, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

can't wait to delve into your post-Tattoo You list, Ismael...great way to dip my toes in

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I actually wanted to say to Alfred/Ismael/Some Dude that you guys have got me interested in checking out the later period a little more, and I def appreciate the spotify playlist Ismael. I will approach with an open mind/ears :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

SONGS

1 Paint It, Black
2 You Can't Always Get What You Want
3 Gimme Shelter
4 Wild Horses
5 She's A Rainbow
6 Mother's Little Helper
7 Dead Flowers
8 Angie
9 Rocks Off
10 Sympathy For The Devil
11 Moonlight Mile
12 2000 Light Years From Home
13 I Am Waiting
14 Haooy
15 19th Nervous Breakdown
16 We Love You
17 Miss You
18 The Last Time
19 No Expectation
20 Sweet Virginia

ALBUMS

1 Sticky Fingers
2 Exile On Main Street
3 Their Satanic Majesty's Request
4 Beggar's Banquet
5 Let It Bleed

MOST HATED

1 Under My Thumb
2 Stupid Girl
3 She's So Cold
4 Far Away Eyes
5 My Girl

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

lol just noticed I got the title of "Happy" wrong, oops

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, alfred and some dude gotta post their lists...

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

2. Too Much Blood
3. Undercover (Of The Night)
4. One Hit (To The Body)
5. Heaven
6. Almost Hear You Sigh
7. Laugh, I Nearly Died

Ismael, an amazing sequence!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry to have missed most of the big climactic climax! Great poll, great results rollout -- thanks, rogermex!

My ballot wasn't very far from hivemind consensus, except for "Mona" -- by far the best of their early covers, imo.

TRACKS:
1. Gimme Shelter
2. The Last Time
3. No Expectations
4. Mona (I Need You Baby)
5. Street Fighting Man
6. She’s A Rainbow
7. Under My Thumb
8. It’s All Over Now
9. Child of the Moon
10. Let It Loose
11. Shake Your Hips
12. Wild Horses
13. Time Is On My Side
14. Jumpin’ Jack Flash
15. Sweet Virginia
16. Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby (Standing In The Shadows)
17. Tumbling Dice
18. 19th Nervous Breakdown
19. Brown Sugar
20. (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction

ALBUMS:
Exile
Beggars Banquet
Flowers
Their Satanic Majesties’ Request
The Rolling Stones, Now!

HATED:
You Can’t Always Get What You Want
Stupid Girl
The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

SONGS:

1. Gimme Shelter
2. Sympathy for the Devil
3. You Can’t Always Get What You Want
4. Back Street Girl
5. Memo From Turner
6.Monkey Man
7.She Smiled Sweetly
8.Stupid Girl
9.Jumpin Jack Flash
10. Satisfaction
11.Under My Thumb
12.Paint It, Black
13.Ruby Tuesday
14.Out of Time
15.Stray Cat Blues
16.We Love You
17.Get Off Of My Cloud
18.Sway
19.Tumbling Dice
20. I Just Want To See His Face

ALBUMS:

1.Beggar’s Banquet
2. Between The Buttons
3. Exile On Main St.
4. Aftermath
5. Let It Bleed

3 MOST HATED TRACKS:

1.Brown Sugar
2.Honky Tonk Women
3.Far Away Eyes

Life Is Most Assuredly NOT a Long Song (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

1. loving cup
2. torn and frayed
3. 2000 light years from home
4. dead flowers
5. memo from turner
6. let it loose
7. star star
8. soul survivor
9. sway
10. waiting on a friend
11. monkey man
12. child of the moon
13. all down the line
14. rocks off
15. have you seen your mother
16. gimme shelter
17. no expectations
18. it's all over now
19. ruby tuesday
20. out of time

buzza, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:22 (twelve years ago) link

I love that you put Loving Cup as your #1, Buzza. otm :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link

; )

buzza, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

Mine!

1. Rocks Off
2. Gimme Shelter
3. Moonlight Mile
4. Sleep Tonight
5. Miss You
6. Get Off Of My Cloud
7. Play With Fire
8. Midnight Rambler
9. Torn and Frayed
10. Memory Motel
11.One Hit (To The Body)
12. The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man
13. When The Whip Comes Down
14. Dead Flowers
15. Heaven
16. Stray Cat Blues
17. Sway
18. She Said Yeah
19. Summer Romance
20. Soul Survivor

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

rocks off #1, very nice--that's the omission i regret the most

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

Why Alfred, your poll is postively enjoyable. You dark horse, you.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks! I'd change it now, of course, and place "Sleep Tonight" at #2.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks, rogermexico! Bolding the rare track on my ballot that didn't make the poll

Monkey Man
Shattered
Stray Cat Blues
Jigsaw Puzzle
Jumpin Jack Flash
I Can't Get No Satisfaction
Rocks Off
19th Nervous Breakdown
Live With Me
Happy
Connection
Gimme Shelter
Let It Bleed
As Tears Go by
Get Off Of My Cloud
2000 Light Years From Home
Beast Of Burden
It's All Over Now
She's So Cold
No Expectations

da croupier, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

"Connection" and "Yesterday's Papers" are the ones that make me go, "Damn, they've got a DEEP catalog."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

I was deliberating over throwing some votes to As Tears Go By, but I changed my mind. It really is a lovely song.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah Connection is pretty great, I played a lotta lifeboat with their early catalog trying to figure out what goes and what stayed.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

as cringing as it is when Keith's trying to find the note, I kinda love that he sang this because it's been so long

(from Shine A Light - which incidentally is about the closest I'll ever get in my life to seeing them live and I guess I'm okay with that)

http://youtu.be/IxOhTOP3R9E

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

been away all week also my ballot

1. Let It Loose
2. Let's Spend the Night Together
3. Beast of Burden
4. Sympathy for the Devil
5. Emotional Rescue
6. Rocks Off
7. I Just Want to See His Face
8. Gimme Shelter
9. Sweet Virginia
10. Under My Thumb
11. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
12. Torn and Frayed
13. Paint It Black
14. Out of Time
15. 19th Nervous Breakdown
16. Wild Horses
17. Sweet Black Angel
18. You Can't Always Get What You Want
19. As Tears Go By
20. Jumpin' Jack Flash

also fuck all y'all

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

If Gimme Shelter wins by less than 100 points, I'd be surprised.

I didn't figure on 600+ over number 2. Wow. It is quite a song.

Here's my ballot. Everything placed except Parachute Woman:

1. Street Fighting Man
2. Jumpin’ Jack Flash
3. Loving Cup
4. Gimme Shelter
5. Rocks Off
6. Torn and Frayed
7. Sway
8. Satisfaction
9. Sympathy For The Devil
10. Wild Horses
11. Have You Seen Your Mother Baby
12. Paint It, Black
13. Tumbling Dice
14. Moonlight Mile
15. You Can’t Always Get What You Want
16. Let’s Spend The Night Together
17. Stray Cat Blues
18. Ruby Tuesday
19. Parachute Woman
20. Dead Flowers

5 favorite albums
Exile on Main St
Beggars Banquet
Sticky Fingers
Let It Bleed
Aftermath

Most Hated:
Dancing With Mr. D
As Tears Go By
Pass The Wine

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

I actually wish I'd voted in this now: 'Lady Jane' and 'Time Waits For No One' would have been on my ballot for sure. Glad to see 'Ventilator Blues' and 'Let It Loose' on there. Not surprised at what came 1st and 2nd at all.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

Ah yeah, and '100 Years Ago' would have made my ballot as well.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

01 sway
02 rocks off
03 gimme shelter
04 monkey man
05 jumpin' jack flash
06 ventilator blues
07 let it loose
08 can't you hear me knocking
09 sympathy for the devil
10 midnight rambler
11 brown sugar
12 shattered
13 street fighting man
14 torn and frayed
15 stop breaking down
16 moonlight mile
17 loving cup
18 paint it black
19 beast of burden
20 live with me

mookieproof, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

She Smiled Sweetly - 40
Time Waits for No One - 36
Gimme Shelter - 33
Rocks Off - 30
Miss You - 28
Paint It Black - 26
Happy - 25
Ruby Tuesday - 24
You Can't Always Get What You Want - 23
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - 22
Sympathy for the Devil - 21
Moonlight Mile - 20
Angie - 19
100 Years Ago - 18
Emotional Rescue - 17
Jumpin' Jack Flash - 16
Brown Sugar - 15
Bitch - 14
Start Me Up - 13
One Hit (To the Body) - 12

Albums
1. Between the Buttons
2. Let It Bleed
3. Sticky Fingers
4. Beggars Banquet
5. Exile on Main St.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

rogerm, do you have extended results or a googledoc for the data miners?

I'm glad the turnout for this one beat the Led Zeppelin poll.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link


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