MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

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JJF is more wicked and malevolent than Sympathy or Midnight Rambler--as Mick said, there's no peace and love in JJF

Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

I think it was meant as a riposte to all the fawning reviews Life got, most of which parroted the "Keef = real rock 'n' roller / Mick = sellout showbiz clown" line.

One thing I've gotten out of this prolonged meditation on the Stones and their periods and history etc is a much deeper, um, grokking sucks but it's really the only word for this, of the mick/keef marriage. like, i can totally understand how keef would actually see it that way. and how he'd be completely wrong.

xpost yes alfred otm

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

Jumpin' Jack Flash - nothing not to like about this song, it *is* rock & roll. It's just too familiar to me now, it'd be like having the Mona Lisa as my favourite painting (which it kind of is, now I think about it).

I don't know what JJF I'd been listening to for years, but I only heard the real one with the half-assed backing vox at the end relatively recently. It was a bit of a shock.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

Keith is playing my floor tom-tom on it to give the boom-da, boom-da sound. Now you'd just program it and loop it or something daft like that.

mookieproof, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

xxpost myonga otm, a fictional Wyman rebuttal would have been cool

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

Fascinating reading about how Keith got that distorted acoustic guitar sound

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

I know right?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

(I unknowingly did something similar once with an alto sax and and dying Walkman! That was like 20 years ago in fact.)

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

I love hearing that stuff, and the Beatles stuff, them all just tinkering and messing around trying to make x sound like y, how do I do that. The problem-solving/collaboration/innovation in recording all this awesome music is so fucking cool to me.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

Mick Jagger is too intelligent to respond to Keith

Richards said that he did not want to take the stage with someone wearing a "coronet and sporting the old ermine. It's not what the Stones is about, is it?" Jagger retorted: "I think he would probably like to get the same honour himself. It's like being given an ice cream—one gets one and they all want one."

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

well, I meant at length. I admire Jagger's immense aversion to "confessional" garbage.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

The fascinating thing is that Mick and Keef have known each other for so long that they know exactly what to say to each other publicly to really get at them. Like, even if Mick doesn't respond to all that calling out in the book, you *know* he threw the book at the wall.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

to/about each other publicly, I mean

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, not taking a pop, it's more I'd just been reading that & thought it was pretty damn stylish.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

Come to think of it, why didn't Wyman write it from "Bill Wyman"'s pov? That woulda been cool!

This might have been problematic. Critic Wyman was sued by Stone Wyman for using the name Bill Wyman. Funny thing was, Critic Wyman was always Bill Wyman, whereas Stone Wyman wasn't Bill Wyman until 1963. Prior to that, he was William George Perks.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, I think the real nitty gritty shit Keef keeps under his hat. He only airs the laundry that makes himself look good. He's not calling out Mick for the crap that everyone hates. Just the stuff where Mick maybe already is on the back foot, ie his solo outings etc.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

what's left for 2nd and first?
Shelter and Sugar?

nostormo, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

Brown Sugar already placed, didn't it?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

or am I high?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

even if Mick doesn't respond to all that calling out in the book, you *know* he threw the book at the wall.

uhh Mick would never chip good paint by throwing a book against it, never mind damaging a book.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

shhh no spoilers, but Sugar's been already

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

garage wall, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it was
xxpost

nostormo, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

otm

Euler, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred...(taps foot)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

no sympathy for anything else

Euler, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

if you weren't so lovely I'd flag you, Soto :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

Mick's Emotions

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

haha

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

I like that you cobbled up some real stats for that, Alfred

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

that's what Keith called it!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

"So get off the fence now
It's creasin' your BUTT"

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I can go home now ....

grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

you know, this will sound dumb but I didn't know that these last 2, if they are what I think they are, would be the 2 favorite songs.
I don't know why. Just kinda surprises me.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

nice song, but 2nd?!

nostormo, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

more than "kinda surprise" imo

nostormo, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

that's what Keith called it!


Stole it from a magazine cover, sorry...

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

I thought that one would get the treatment Satisfaction got, certainly

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

(I stole it, not Keith)

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

xps one of them was the #2 in the 20th Century poll, so I imagined it would do well here.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for one pretty low, but not the other. Shoulda voted for the other as well, but I reined in my big hit votes and it somehow did not make the cut. Like both songs plenty, interested to see the vote totals vs. #1 votes.

grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

But really, gotta go home. Look forwards to seeing the results. Thanks roger!

grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

*waves*

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

UGH

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

All I know about the history of Western civilization I learned from this song.

Life Is Most Assuredly NOT a Long Song (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

"Pleeeze allow me to introduce mahself...."

No, thanks, I have to clean my teeth!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

No, it's wonderful. I thought it might be just me though.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

wait Alfred you don't like this song!?

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link


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