MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

[hands over ears] lalala

how are defining "inwardness"?

Bill Wyman -- the critic -- said as much in his revew/"Mick Jagger's response."

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Mick's solo stuff is *way* underrated imo

― Ismael Klata, Friday, April 6, 2012 1:26 PM

If I like "Don't Tear Me Up," and both of the honky-tonk numbers from Wandering Spirit, what other solo Mick should I revisit.

It's funny actually. Laying Wandering Spirit next to X-Pensive Winos really lays out what both of these guys do well and why they work so well together.

Well, if you trust Jann Wenner, he gave "Goddes In The Doorway" 5 stars. I suggest you don't ...

I'm not going to defend two vampires but from what I've read about Jagger and Richards their middle class backgrounds came out when bringing up their kids: they look as normal as any rich kids. I'm sure Keith's son Marlon had it worse but he had the daughters (beautiful women btw) when he was off the junk.

kornrulez, let me make it a little easier on you. I'll post number three, and you can probably figure out the rest.

That Slate piece really resonated, yet I'm not sure I'm in a position to know much.

It's brilliant anyway, but what is it, exactly? Why was it written like that?

Wandering Spirit is three fourths an excellent album. Toss in "Throwaway" from Primitive Cool, a couple of Laswellized numbers from She's the Boss and you've got a dandy CD-R.

3. Jumpin’ Jack Flash – 1023 points (41 votes, 5x #1)

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http://www.youtu.be/eUnPO9qmRuk

http://www.timeisonourside.com/SOJumpin.html

That Slate piece really resonated, yet I'm not sure I'm in a position to know much.

It's brilliant anyway, but what is it, exactly? Why was it written like that?

I think it was meant as a riposte to all the fawning reviews Life got, most of which parroted the "Keef = real rock 'n' roller / Mick = sellout showbiz clown" line.

bill wyman should lay off the makeup

This was probably the first Stones song I wanted to and eventually learned to play on guitar.

My #1 (yeah, "inwardness" bad choice of words). I think I am projecting a bit as parents using drugs and stuff does a number on a kid--Marlon sort of had the deluxe version of that, but whatever

SO disappointed when I realized that Slate piece wasn't really Mick (bout 3/4 of the way through) (still great tho)

Didn't even re-listen to this song when making my ballot, which was kinda a mistake, but I refused to vote for it. It is better than I give it credit for though.

My feeling was the Slate piece was crafted as an answer to Keef's bitchier sections of Life, where he's the wounded artist and Mick's the evil capitalist,he really took the gloves off in those sections...and the Slate piece definitley put a finer point on some of the hypocrisies and omissions in Keef's book. A bit of a Rosencrantz & Guildernstern version of Keef's book, if you will.

A handful of news outlets, including the Pittsburgh (I think) Fox affiliate, reported it as MICK JAGGER RESPONDS HERE IT IS IT'S OFFICIAL and then swiftly removed said reportage from their websites.

"Sway" in my top ten btw

Mick Jagger is too intelligent to respond to Keith.

Come to think of it, why didn't Wyman write it from "Bill Wyman"'s pov? That woulda been cool!

I gave my Jumpin' Jack Flash vote to Street Fighting Man but can't begrudge the finish. Johnny Fever totally OTM on the fun of playing this. Also fun to sing. My karaoke go-to when I need an ace in the hole.

JJF is more wicked and malevolent than Sympathy or Midnight Rambler--as Mick said, there's no peace and love in JJF

I think it was meant as a riposte to all the fawning reviews Life got, most of which parroted the "Keef = real rock 'n' roller / Mick = sellout showbiz clown" line.

One thing I've gotten out of this prolonged meditation on the Stones and their periods and history etc is a much deeper, um, grokking sucks but it's really the only word for this, of the mick/keef marriage. like, i can totally understand how keef would actually see it that way. and how he'd be completely wrong.

xpost yes alfred otm

Jumpin' Jack Flash - nothing not to like about this song, it *is* rock & roll. It's just too familiar to me now, it'd be like having the Mona Lisa as my favourite painting (which it kind of is, now I think about it).

I don't know what JJF I'd been listening to for years, but I only heard the real one with the half-assed backing vox at the end relatively recently. It was a bit of a shock.

Keith is playing my floor tom-tom on it to give the boom-da, boom-da sound. Now you'd just program it and loop it or something daft like that.

xxpost myonga otm, a fictional Wyman rebuttal would have been cool

Fascinating reading about how Keith got that distorted acoustic guitar sound

I know right?

(I unknowingly did something similar once with an alto sax and and dying Walkman! That was like 20 years ago in fact.)

I love hearing that stuff, and the Beatles stuff, them all just tinkering and messing around trying to make x sound like y, how do I do that. The problem-solving/collaboration/innovation in recording all this awesome music is so fucking cool to me.

Mick Jagger is too intelligent to respond to Keith

Richards said that he did not want to take the stage with someone wearing a "coronet and sporting the old ermine. It's not what the Stones is about, is it?" Jagger retorted: "I think he would probably like to get the same honour himself. It's like being given an ice cream—one gets one and they all want one."

well, I meant at length. I admire Jagger's immense aversion to "confessional" garbage.

The fascinating thing is that Mick and Keef have known each other for so long that they know exactly what to say to each other publicly to really get at them. Like, even if Mick doesn't respond to all that calling out in the book, you *know* he threw the book at the wall.

to/about each other publicly, I mean

Oh, not taking a pop, it's more I'd just been reading that & thought it was pretty damn stylish.

Come to think of it, why didn't Wyman write it from "Bill Wyman"'s pov? That woulda been cool!

This might have been problematic. Critic Wyman was sued by Stone Wyman for using the name Bill Wyman. Funny thing was, Critic Wyman was always Bill Wyman, whereas Stone Wyman wasn't Bill Wyman until 1963. Prior to that, he was William George Perks.

I mean, I think the real nitty gritty shit Keef keeps under his hat. He only airs the laundry that makes himself look good. He's not calling out Mick for the crap that everyone hates. Just the stuff where Mick maybe already is on the back foot, ie his solo outings etc.

what's left for 2nd and first?
Shelter and Sugar?

Brown Sugar already placed, didn't it?

or am I high?

even if Mick doesn't respond to all that calling out in the book, you *know* he threw the book at the wall.

uhh Mick would never chip good paint by throwing a book against it, never mind damaging a book.

shhh no spoilers, but Sugar's been already

garage wall, lol

yeah it was
xxpost

2. Mixed Emotions. 1027 points (41 votes, 23x #1)

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otm

Alfred...(taps foot)

no sympathy for anything else