MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

Kind of amazing that such a (deservedly) well-regarded Stones song doesn't even have Keith playing on it.

xxxpost but I don't think that they ever saw Brian as a threat because he was such a squirrelly weirdo. That's what I get from the stories, anyway.

Kind of amazing that such a (deservedly) well-regarded Stones song doesn't even have Keith playing on it.

It could be the best Mick Jagger vocal ever.

xxxxpost that's retroactive snark towards Brian, that he was hopeless, a joke, etc....let's face it, Brian may have been bad news but is there any doubt that the Glimmer Twins could be royal pricks? And I say that with luv

I found Keith's lack of inwardness or any kind of regret in Life sort of disturbing, actually...the one thing I didn't like about the (self) portrayal. But that's the human riff, obv.

THERE MUST BE WAYS TO FIND OUUUUUUUUUUT
LOVE IS THE WAY
THEY SAY IS REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYSTRUTTINGOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTT

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Hmmmm, P. Patty, yer 1 and 2's were non-Keith tunes....I don't think he'd be "happy" about that!

Sway is totally middle-of-the-pack Stones to me, but my opinion means little.

my #1

me too, Johnny--a solid A-, which is middle of the pack for these guys, but way too high here

Not part of the "Sway" cult either, but it sure is fun to witness it. I do like it, just nowhere near my top 20.

here comes the beatdown!

I can't believe Dancing With Mr. D is going to finish in the top 3.

Think I would enjoy drinking with the "Sway" cult

lol if that's the beatdown, we're a fairly gentle mob.

many xposts to Iago --- I'm a huge Keef stan, I know it, I've admitted as much.. the way I justify my 1 and 2 is that Keef gets his glory from the other 18 picks in my 20, so it all evens out. :D
that'll hold up in court, right?

but dont' tell keef, anyway.

I personally do not like anything I've learned about Brian Jones except him as a musician. a lot of that is colored by stories from Mick and Keef that I'll happily believe because they support my existing dislike for him, so it's total personal bias on my behalf, I will totally wear that.

My #1! xpost

― Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain),

Have completely lost track of what hasn't placed yet, minus the big obvious one. But there must be 3 big obvious ones. My brain is mush.

WENNER:
What started causing tensions in the group among Keith, you and him?

JAGGER:
[Brian] was a very jealous person and didn’t read the right books about leadership [laughs] And you can’t be jealous and be a leader. He was obsessed with the idea of being the leader of the band. You have to realize that everyone in a band is all more or less together, and everyone has their own niche, and some people lead in some ways, and some people lead in others. He never could understand that; he never got it, and he was kind of young. So he alienated people. And as I say, he was very narrow-minded in his view of music, and, really, Keith and I had been very catholic.

WENNER:
But did you take away the leadership of the band from him?

JAGGER:
He had never had the leadership of the band to take away; if you’re the singer in the band, you always get more attention than anyone else. Brian got very jealous when I got attention. And then the main jealousy was because Keith and I started writing songs, and he wasn’t involved in that. To be honest, Brian had no talent for writing songs. None. I’ve never known a guy with less talent for songwriting.

And there's no way I can beat anyone down for not loving Sway so much. As long as you're not stanning for Lady Jane at #1 lol, it's all good.

WENNER:
What did he have talent for?
JAGGER:
He was a guitar player, and he also diverted his talent on other instruments. His original instrument was the clarinet. So he played harmonica because he was familiar with wind instruments.
WENNER:
Did he give the band a sound?

JAGGER:
Yes. He played the slide guitar at a time when no one really played it. He played in the style of Elmore James, and he had this very lyrical touch. He evolved into more of an experimental musician, but he lost touch with the guitar, and always as a musician you must have one thing you do well. He dabbled too much.

WENNER:
Does he deserve the kind of mythological status that he has among hard-core Stones fanatics?

JAGGER:
Well, he was an integral part of the band, and he – for whatever it means – was a big part of it.

hmmm, that all sounds plausible--thanks Soto. xp Patty, just kiddin' ya! I know we've been through this upthread, just monkeyin' around

Kind of amazing that such a (deservedly) well-regarded Stones song doesn't even have Keith playing on it.

― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, April 6, 2012

it's weird, right? like, going by this evidence you'd have to be pretty stoked for a Mick Jagger solo release. and yet.

I remember getting Sticky Fingers near the end of my acquisition of Stones albums & thinking, great, here's the one with all the AOR songs that I don't really care about anymore, but everyone says it's a classic so I'll buy the cd used & give a whirl, & while I can't say I'm completely over that view nowadays, "Sway" was an unsuspected gem amongst the radio songs.

love the guitar outro a lot too

xxpost I know, Iago... I still have a lot of guilt, lol

No guessing!

xxpost hahah lol rogermexico

Mick's solo stuff is *way* underrated imo

If Keith had gotten done in by that coconut tree, would we see a Mick n Mick tour? "Winter, Sway, Moonlight Mile and other family faves"?

I'm gonna be really bummed when the full results get posted and I find out I was the only sap who voted for "Time Waits for No One".

And as I say, he was very narrow-minded in his view of music, and, really, Keith and I had been very catholic.

Totally contradicting something Keith once said

"Sway" has my favorite Jagger electric rhythm part.

are there any americans named mick?

you're bumming me out, Iago lol

i know, i'm being a huge jerk--gonna stop now. but i am getting sad this is almost over...

xp MICKy Dolenz

I have to leave now and I'm bummed that I'm going to miss the big reveal. But it's been a pleasure. You people are all Rolling Stones knowledge ninjas.

Many thanks to rogermexico for running this poll. There will always be a place for it in the Citadel of my heart.

*cue sitar*

His original instrument was the clarinet.

He played alto saxophone on the Beatles' "You Know My Name (Look Up The Number)." Sessions for it started in 1967, but it wasn't completed and released until after Brian died, in 1970.

have a good day, kornrulez!!

I found Keith's lack of inwardness or any kind of regret in Life sort of disturbing, actually...the one thing I didn't like about the (self) portrayal.

Keith is obviously a great artist and an immensely entertaining figure, but I can't imagine he's anything less than an utterly horrible human being. I have very little sympathy for junkie parenting.

[hands over ears] lalala

how are defining "inwardness"?

Bill Wyman -- the critic -- said as much in his revew/"Mick Jagger's response."

xp

Mick's solo stuff is *way* underrated imo

― Ismael Klata, Friday, April 6, 2012 1:26 PM

If I like "Don't Tear Me Up," and both of the honky-tonk numbers from Wandering Spirit, what other solo Mick should I revisit.

It's funny actually. Laying Wandering Spirit next to X-Pensive Winos really lays out what both of these guys do well and why they work so well together.

Well, if you trust Jann Wenner, he gave "Goddes In The Doorway" 5 stars. I suggest you don't ...

I'm not going to defend two vampires but from what I've read about Jagger and Richards their middle class backgrounds came out when bringing up their kids: they look as normal as any rich kids. I'm sure Keith's son Marlon had it worse but he had the daughters (beautiful women btw) when he was off the junk.

kornrulez, let me make it a little easier on you. I'll post number three, and you can probably figure out the rest.

That Slate piece really resonated, yet I'm not sure I'm in a position to know much.

It's brilliant anyway, but what is it, exactly? Why was it written like that?