MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

kick me like you've ki'icked befoh-oh
i don't even feeel the paaaain no moooore

inventing g'n'r in that pic btw

I'm zipping through the days at lightning speed
Plug in, flush out and find the fucking feed

I need to repeat that sunshine line in all caps, if I may, because it's so fucking great

THE SUNSHINE BORES THE DAYLIGHTS OUTAAAA MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Excellent! This was my #6 and I was starting to think it wasn't going to be here.

When Max Weinberg was assembling his Let There Be Drums compilations, he really wanted "Rocks Off" on the 70s edition. But licensing was insanely complicated/expensive. Watts got wind of what Max was trying to do, and personally stepped in to clear the licensing for "Rocks Off."

Just to sidetrack on Jones again, the post below from the Brian Jones thread sort encapsulates his dichotomy to me...the myth vs the man. All of what's said below is true, but without the dark undertones of drug use, obsessiveness, jealousy, violence and just general all round fragility it becomes a mythological story of a nice guy done wrong, taken too soon. Wheras to me, Jones' story is of a talented but petty, violent, jealous obsessive unpredictable and fragile dude just completely swallowed by fame. I can't buy into the hippy prince/cock robin stuff.

You can't help but feel sorry for him. Originally - way back at the beginning - it was his band. He was the most creative musical thinker in the group if not the primary songwriter. ... Then Keith stole his girlfriend - the beautiful Anita Pallenberg - and he got kicked out of the band. Then of course, there is the whole mystery surrounding his death. Something about dodgy death certificates or something, I can't remember. I used to know all the conspiracy theories but hey I've forgetten.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:59 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry for the derail

4. Sway – 1017 points (37 votes, 8x #1)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sXZ0GRlCgt4/TzVOs0eFO5I/AAAAAAAAPFI/RsRt3Osyh-E/s1600/mtmjkr.jpg
http://www.youtu.be/1Xk8ZLU6bYM

http://www.timeisonourside.com/SOSway.html

waaaaaaaan tooooooooooo threeeeeeeeeee foooooouuuuuur

Sway almost sounds like a Neil Young song

whoa

Wow, 8 #1 votes. Huge "Sway" contingent.

BAWWWN
NAWWWW
BAWWWW
BAWWWWWWWWWWW
DANANANANANAWWWW

cult of sway right here

Sway was my #1, Moonlight mile was my #2

Sway is an absolute monster.

TOO LOW

BAWWWN
NAWWWW
BAWWWW
BAWWWWWWWWWWW
DANANANANANAWWWW

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, April 6, 2012

^^ OTM

i guess we have lots of other corroborating evidence that BJ was a scumbag, but i wonder just how much we rely on MJ and KR's posthumous spin for our image of him. Keith doesn't have any excuse for stealing Anita from him, and I think it's clear that Mick and Keith wanted him "out of the way". It's amazing how late into 1965 and 1966 performance clips that you'll see Brian at dead center of the stage, taking in the lion's share of the girls' screaming...I don't Mick liked that one bit.

Sway is the greaaaaaaaaaaaatest ever

if an alien asked me to describe rock n roll with one song, I would give them this. and then we would open a six pack, smoke a pack of marlboros and have a great fucking night.

Sway is the "Life on Mars" of this poll

Kind of amazing that such a (deservedly) well-regarded Stones song doesn't even have Keith playing on it.

xxxpost but I don't think that they ever saw Brian as a threat because he was such a squirrelly weirdo. That's what I get from the stories, anyway.

Kind of amazing that such a (deservedly) well-regarded Stones song doesn't even have Keith playing on it.

It could be the best Mick Jagger vocal ever.

xxxxpost that's retroactive snark towards Brian, that he was hopeless, a joke, etc....let's face it, Brian may have been bad news but is there any doubt that the Glimmer Twins could be royal pricks? And I say that with luv

I found Keith's lack of inwardness or any kind of regret in Life sort of disturbing, actually...the one thing I didn't like about the (self) portrayal. But that's the human riff, obv.

THERE MUST BE WAYS TO FIND OUUUUUUUUUUT
LOVE IS THE WAY
THEY SAY IS REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYSTRUTTINGOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTT

bawnawnawnawnaw

Hmmmm, P. Patty, yer 1 and 2's were non-Keith tunes....I don't think he'd be "happy" about that!

Sway is totally middle-of-the-pack Stones to me, but my opinion means little.

my #1

me too, Johnny--a solid A-, which is middle of the pack for these guys, but way too high here

Not part of the "Sway" cult either, but it sure is fun to witness it. I do like it, just nowhere near my top 20.

here comes the beatdown!

I can't believe Dancing With Mr. D is going to finish in the top 3.

Think I would enjoy drinking with the "Sway" cult

lol if that's the beatdown, we're a fairly gentle mob.

many xposts to Iago --- I'm a huge Keef stan, I know it, I've admitted as much.. the way I justify my 1 and 2 is that Keef gets his glory from the other 18 picks in my 20, so it all evens out. :D
that'll hold up in court, right?

but dont' tell keef, anyway.

I personally do not like anything I've learned about Brian Jones except him as a musician. a lot of that is colored by stories from Mick and Keef that I'll happily believe because they support my existing dislike for him, so it's total personal bias on my behalf, I will totally wear that.

My #1! xpost

― Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain),

Have completely lost track of what hasn't placed yet, minus the big obvious one. But there must be 3 big obvious ones. My brain is mush.

WENNER:
What started causing tensions in the group among Keith, you and him?

JAGGER:
[Brian] was a very jealous person and didn’t read the right books about leadership [laughs] And you can’t be jealous and be a leader. He was obsessed with the idea of being the leader of the band. You have to realize that everyone in a band is all more or less together, and everyone has their own niche, and some people lead in some ways, and some people lead in others. He never could understand that; he never got it, and he was kind of young. So he alienated people. And as I say, he was very narrow-minded in his view of music, and, really, Keith and I had been very catholic.

WENNER:
But did you take away the leadership of the band from him?

JAGGER:
He had never had the leadership of the band to take away; if you’re the singer in the band, you always get more attention than anyone else. Brian got very jealous when I got attention. And then the main jealousy was because Keith and I started writing songs, and he wasn’t involved in that. To be honest, Brian had no talent for writing songs. None. I’ve never known a guy with less talent for songwriting.

And there's no way I can beat anyone down for not loving Sway so much. As long as you're not stanning for Lady Jane at #1 lol, it's all good.

WENNER:
What did he have talent for?
JAGGER:
He was a guitar player, and he also diverted his talent on other instruments. His original instrument was the clarinet. So he played harmonica because he was familiar with wind instruments.
WENNER:
Did he give the band a sound?

JAGGER:
Yes. He played the slide guitar at a time when no one really played it. He played in the style of Elmore James, and he had this very lyrical touch. He evolved into more of an experimental musician, but he lost touch with the guitar, and always as a musician you must have one thing you do well. He dabbled too much.

WENNER:
Does he deserve the kind of mythological status that he has among hard-core Stones fanatics?

JAGGER:
Well, he was an integral part of the band, and he – for whatever it means – was a big part of it.

hmmm, that all sounds plausible--thanks Soto. xp Patty, just kiddin' ya! I know we've been through this upthread, just monkeyin' around

Kind of amazing that such a (deservedly) well-regarded Stones song doesn't even have Keith playing on it.

― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, April 6, 2012

it's weird, right? like, going by this evidence you'd have to be pretty stoked for a Mick Jagger solo release. and yet.

I remember getting Sticky Fingers near the end of my acquisition of Stones albums & thinking, great, here's the one with all the AOR songs that I don't really care about anymore, but everyone says it's a classic so I'll buy the cd used & give a whirl, & while I can't say I'm completely over that view nowadays, "Sway" was an unsuspected gem amongst the radio songs.

love the guitar outro a lot too

xxpost I know, Iago... I still have a lot of guilt, lol

No guessing!

xxpost hahah lol rogermexico

Mick's solo stuff is *way* underrated imo

If Keith had gotten done in by that coconut tree, would we see a Mick n Mick tour? "Winter, Sway, Moonlight Mile and other family faves"?

I'm gonna be really bummed when the full results get posted and I find out I was the only sap who voted for "Time Waits for No One".