MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

also every teenage cover band in every garage everywhere owes the Stones a vote of thanks for helping them with material

You could make a case for Brian as their instrumental MVP for '66

Bob Dylan said in a recent interview that he was one of the best musicians he ever saw.

I know very little Stones history, was Jones a childhood friend of anyone in the band or a guy on the scene/in other bands that they recruited?

I always wondered how much of Mick & Keith's bitterness towards Brian was because Brian was actually a dick or because he was a dick with a sitar and brilliant ideas.

of all the many many covers only the Feelies come close to doing it justice....

Or classmate at school, that kinda thing?

from all the anecdotes I've heard I think he was straight-up dick....like, to the point of severe mental problems, from what I have been able to parse in the stuff that's been going around. I think they would have LIKED him if he was just talented.

Jones was an established musician with a band and if memory serves Mick & Keith answered an advertisment in the local paper or something

yep, according to Wiki it went thusly:

Jones left Cheltenham and moved to London where he became friends with fellow musicians Alexis Korner, future Manfred Mann singer Paul Jones, future Cream bassist Jack Bruce and others who made up the small London rhythm and blues and jazz scene there. He became a blues musician, for a brief time calling himself "Elmo Lewis", and playing slide guitar. Jones also started a group with Paul Jones called the Roosters and in January 1963, after both Brian and Paul left the group, Eric Clapton took over Brian's position as guitarist.[11]

Jones placed an advertisement in Jazz News (a Soho club information sheet) of 2 May 1962 inviting musicians to audition for a new R&B group at the Bricklayer's Arms pub; pianist Ian "Stu" Stewart was the first to respond. Later singer Mick Jagger also joined this band; Jagger and his childhood friend Keith Richards had met Jones when he and Paul Jones were playing Elmore James' "Dust My Broom" with Korner's band at the Ealing Jazz Club.[12] Jagger brought guitarist Richards to rehearsals; Richards then joined the band. Jones's and Stewart's acceptance of Richards and the Chuck Berry songs he wanted to play coincided with the departure of blues purists Geoff Bradford and Brian Knight, who had no tolerance for Chuck Berry.

I know very little Stones history, was Jones a childhood friend of anyone in the band or a guy on the scene/in other bands that they recruited?

the Stones were Jones' band, he's the founding member!

I'm astonished to realise I know hardly anything about this

i think just a dick, tbh. if you've been in bands you probably know this guy. best musician in the room by far, brings a TON to the party. as a result, wants to do none of the hard work of actually writing songs, booking gigs, etc. just shows up, makes your stuff better, criticizes, wants full share of glory, groupies, and gold. Add to that can't handle his drugs and yeah, it would chafe.

I can dimly recall some 7th grade writing assignment where I quoted from "Paint It Black" not going so well (teacher not digging the Stones? my own weak command of point of view?) probably these days the whole vast administrative machinery for disturbed youth would've lurched into motion....

jones was displaced once the emphasis shifted to creating original songs, rather than r&b/blues covers. did jones ever write anything?

From what I read, Brian Jones was closer to OJ Simpson than Syd Barrett. Not a nice guy, to put it mildly.

it's funny the first time i ever heard paint it black was watching this (probably inappropriate for a 9-year-old) TV show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z6fcd--354
i guess it's a full metal jacket rip / reference.

oh jeez. yeah, i wasn't even thinking about that stuff.

funny we should save the Dark Side of Brian Jones discussion for Paint It, Black

My #1. I just never get tired of this one.

Jones was pretty violent too, if you believe the stories, especially with women -- Keef's story is that it was Jones' violent outbursts with Pallenberg that eventually sealed the deal of them hooking up

Jones tried writing a couple of songs, I read Mick or Keith saying once, but they were these horrendously complicated numbers with like a hundred jazz chords. It was never going to work.

lol

my #1 too!

That's all for my top 5 except for #2 left

brian jones - really?

Doesn't look good for my #1 and my #2 is definitely out, but I was never sure either would make the countdown.

Supposedly, Hendrix and Brian were pretty tight, and Hendrix' take on the situation was that Mick & Keef were just jealous. But he likely didn't hear the whole story.

Not looking good for my #1 at all.

When my sister postgraduated a few years back I took her and my parents out for a celebratory dinner at Claridge's.  It was very nice.

My dad and I were lounging on the couches in the lobby afterwards, rather decadently we fancied, while the girls went to the ladies.  This statuesque brunette sashayed down the stairs in a bronze dress while we gawped - utterly gorgeous.  So much so that we only spotted the old wrinkly guy beside her at the last moment, all loose-limbed confidence and casual nods to the doormen as the couple disappeared outside to their taxi.

Of course it was Mick. We didn't talk or anything, or even get much of a look - he just monkeyed past, looking pleased with the world.  I found out later he'd been living there for a year after Jerry Hall had finally kicked him out for good, so we'd basically been eating in his kitchen and hanging out at his front door.

Thirty seconds later my mum & sister came out the bathrooms, all enthusiastic about the vast selection of hand creams they'd been trying.  When we told them what they'd missed they barrelled out the doors after them, but they'd already gone.  As they're both massive Stones fans and it was my sister's big night, it was all too cruel.

Thanks folks, very inciteful! I knew none of this.

my privilege

Hah, that was a good story indeed.

5. Rocks Off – 881 points (35 votes, 2x #1)

http://i41.tinypic.com/24m9tzp.gif
http://www.youtu.be/_lNP-x94-SE

http://www.timeisonourside.com/SORocks.html

"so he was the 'bez' of the Stones?"

From the "brian jones - really?" thread.

My #1! xpost

rocks off would've been my #1 if i ever voted in these.

ah, my only Exile vote; best moment on the album is when the drums come in, after the opening riff & Mick's purr/growl.

the horns are the best anything ever all time

...the sunshine bores the daylights out of me!

Now I wanna hear "Rip This Joint"

of all the many many covers only the Feelies come close to doing it justice....

I like the ones by the Avengers, Social Distortion, Firewater, feedtime. Pretty hard to mess this song up, though I guess W.A.S.P. accomplished that, ha ha.

Satisfaction, part ii, and this time i believe it

"Rocks Off" my #6! The horns the horns the horns. Love the vocals on this one too.

http://youtu.be/94e6aZiTRE0

kick me like you've ki'icked befoh-oh
i don't even feeel the paaaain no moooore

inventing g'n'r in that pic btw

I'm zipping through the days at lightning speed
Plug in, flush out and find the fucking feed

I need to repeat that sunshine line in all caps, if I may, because it's so fucking great

THE SUNSHINE BORES THE DAYLIGHTS OUTAAAA MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Excellent! This was my #6 and I was starting to think it wasn't going to be here.

When Max Weinberg was assembling his Let There Be Drums compilations, he really wanted "Rocks Off" on the 70s edition. But licensing was insanely complicated/expensive. Watts got wind of what Max was trying to do, and personally stepped in to clear the licensing for "Rocks Off."