fuckn killer, changed my teenage ears hearing this, I'd mostly grown up with the Beatles/Elvis...hearing this dark stuff when I was getting into my hella-mope phase was just, 'omg people got super-bummed back then too? awesome'
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
also every teenage cover band in every garage everywhere owes the Stones a vote of thanks for helping them with material
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
You could make a case for Brian as their instrumental MVP for '66
Bob Dylan said in a recent interview that he was one of the best musicians he ever saw.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
I know very little Stones history, was Jones a childhood friend of anyone in the band or a guy on the scene/in other bands that they recruited?
― grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
I always wondered how much of Mick & Keith's bitterness towards Brian was because Brian was actually a dick or because he was a dick with a sitar and brilliant ideas.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
of all the many many covers only the Feelies come close to doing it justice....
― theStalePrince, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
Or classmate at school, that kinda thing?
from all the anecdotes I've heard I think he was straight-up dick....like, to the point of severe mental problems, from what I have been able to parse in the stuff that's been going around. I think they would have LIKED him if he was just talented.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
Jones was an established musician with a band and if memory serves Mick & Keith answered an advertisment in the local paper or something
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
yep, according to Wiki it went thusly:
Jones left Cheltenham and moved to London where he became friends with fellow musicians Alexis Korner, future Manfred Mann singer Paul Jones, future Cream bassist Jack Bruce and others who made up the small London rhythm and blues and jazz scene there. He became a blues musician, for a brief time calling himself "Elmo Lewis", and playing slide guitar. Jones also started a group with Paul Jones called the Roosters and in January 1963, after both Brian and Paul left the group, Eric Clapton took over Brian's position as guitarist.[11] Jones placed an advertisement in Jazz News (a Soho club information sheet) of 2 May 1962 inviting musicians to audition for a new R&B group at the Bricklayer's Arms pub; pianist Ian "Stu" Stewart was the first to respond. Later singer Mick Jagger also joined this band; Jagger and his childhood friend Keith Richards had met Jones when he and Paul Jones were playing Elmore James' "Dust My Broom" with Korner's band at the Ealing Jazz Club.[12] Jagger brought guitarist Richards to rehearsals; Richards then joined the band. Jones's and Stewart's acceptance of Richards and the Chuck Berry songs he wanted to play coincided with the departure of blues purists Geoff Bradford and Brian Knight, who had no tolerance for Chuck Berry.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
the Stones were Jones' band, he's the founding member!
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
I'm astonished to realise I know hardly anything about this
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
i think just a dick, tbh. if you've been in bands you probably know this guy. best musician in the room by far, brings a TON to the party. as a result, wants to do none of the hard work of actually writing songs, booking gigs, etc. just shows up, makes your stuff better, criticizes, wants full share of glory, groupies, and gold. Add to that can't handle his drugs and yeah, it would chafe.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
I can dimly recall some 7th grade writing assignment where I quoted from "Paint It Black" not going so well (teacher not digging the Stones? my own weak command of point of view?) probably these days the whole vast administrative machinery for disturbed youth would've lurched into motion....
― theStalePrince, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
jones was displaced once the emphasis shifted to creating original songs, rather than r&b/blues covers. did jones ever write anything?
― tylerw, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
From what I read, Brian Jones was closer to OJ Simpson than Syd Barrett. Not a nice guy, to put it mildly.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
it's funny the first time i ever heard paint it black was watching this (probably inappropriate for a 9-year-old) TV showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z6fcd--354i guess it's a full metal jacket rip / reference.
― tylerw, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
oh jeez. yeah, i wasn't even thinking about that stuff.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
funny we should save the Dark Side of Brian Jones discussion for Paint It, Black
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
My #1. I just never get tired of this one.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
Jones was pretty violent too, if you believe the stories, especially with women -- Keef's story is that it was Jones' violent outbursts with Pallenberg that eventually sealed the deal of them hooking up
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
Jones tried writing a couple of songs, I read Mick or Keith saying once, but they were these horrendously complicated numbers with like a hundred jazz chords. It was never going to work.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
my #1 too!
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
That's all for my top 5 except for #2 left
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
brian jones - really?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
Doesn't look good for my #1 and my #2 is definitely out, but I was never sure either would make the countdown.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
Supposedly, Hendrix and Brian were pretty tight, and Hendrix' take on the situation was that Mick & Keef were just jealous. But he likely didn't hear the whole story.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
Not looking good for my #1 at all.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
When my sister postgraduated a few years back I took her and my parents out for a celebratory dinner at Claridge's. It was very nice.
My dad and I were lounging on the couches in the lobby afterwards, rather decadently we fancied, while the girls went to the ladies. This statuesque brunette sashayed down the stairs in a bronze dress while we gawped - utterly gorgeous. So much so that we only spotted the old wrinkly guy beside her at the last moment, all loose-limbed confidence and casual nods to the doormen as the couple disappeared outside to their taxi.
Of course it was Mick. We didn't talk or anything, or even get much of a look - he just monkeyed past, looking pleased with the world. I found out later he'd been living there for a year after Jerry Hall had finally kicked him out for good, so we'd basically been eating in his kitchen and hanging out at his front door.
Thirty seconds later my mum & sister came out the bathrooms, all enthusiastic about the vast selection of hand creams they'd been trying. When we told them what they'd missed they barrelled out the doors after them, but they'd already gone. As they're both massive Stones fans and it was my sister's big night, it was all too cruel.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks folks, very inciteful! I knew none of this.
― grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
my privilege
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
Hah, that was a good story indeed.
― grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
5. Rocks Off – 881 points (35 votes, 2x #1)
http://i41.tinypic.com/24m9tzp.gifhttp://www.youtu.be/_lNP-x94-SE
http://www.timeisonourside.com/SORocks.html
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
"so he was the 'bez' of the Stones?"
From the "brian jones - really?" thread.
― grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
My #1! xpost
― Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
rocks off would've been my #1 if i ever voted in these.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
ah, my only Exile vote; best moment on the album is when the drums come in, after the opening riff & Mick's purr/growl.
― Euler, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
the horns are the best anything ever all time
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
...the sunshine bores the daylights out of me!
― nicky lo-fi, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Now I wanna hear "Rip This Joint"
― nicky lo-fi, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
I like the ones by the Avengers, Social Distortion, Firewater, feedtime. Pretty hard to mess this song up, though I guess W.A.S.P. accomplished that, ha ha.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
Satisfaction, part ii, and this time i believe it
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
"Rocks Off" my #6! The horns the horns the horns. Love the vocals on this one too.
― grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://youtu.be/94e6aZiTRE0
― Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
kick me like you've ki'icked befoh-ohi don't even feeel the paaaain no moooore
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
inventing g'n'r in that pic btw
I'm zipping through the days at lightning speed Plug in, flush out and find the fucking feed
― Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
I need to repeat that sunshine line in all caps, if I may, because it's so fucking great
THE SUNSHINE BORES THE DAYLIGHTS OUTAAAA MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
Excellent! This was my #6 and I was starting to think it wasn't going to be here.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link