MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

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"Sway" won the "Sticky Fingers" poll in a landslide iirc

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

that opening figure of Keith's is just so cool

it really is. super-easy to play and deeply satisfying. he's always copped to just slowing down chuck berry's stuff, but what he does with those double-stop slides is magic.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

There's no way Sway doesn't make it. I think I finally know all the top six now; just one I'm not 100% sure of.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

"sway" is bound to place top 5, so many people talked it up on the balloting thread

i cut "tumbling dice" in favor of "rocks off", stand by that though i love 'em both

very cool reminiscence, rogerm

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Is this gonna wrap up by 5:00 p.m. U.S. east-coast time? Will be sad to miss the run-down, though obviously the world should not revolve around east-coast time.

grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

and thanks so much for posting that reminiscence, roger, loved reading that, esp the last couple lines.

very cool reminiscence, rogerm

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lol xp

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

totally identifying with a lot of that post too

while we're talking about cleveland...
i remember going to the hall of fame (in cleveland) after a day of shopping at my favorite gigantic thrift store and seeing mick jagger's clothes and thinking now THAT's what i call an outfit. and they were in my size too! why can't i ever find clothes like THAT?!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

Aren't knee pads one-size-fits-all?

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

it was a white suit iirc

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

xpost -- wrapping it by 5pm EST would mean savoring each track a little less but if folks don't mind i'm happy to speed it up

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

haha read that as "found Mick's clothes in a thrift store" xpost

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

if only!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

Great song all the way through, but the first 20-30 seconds especially is some of the greatest rock music ever recorded.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 April 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

once again, brian jones on sitar takes it next-level

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

You could make a case for Brian as their instrumental MVP for '66

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

fuckn killer, changed my teenage ears hearing this, I'd mostly grown up with the Beatles/Elvis...hearing this dark stuff when I was getting into my hella-mope phase was just, 'omg people got super-bummed back then too? awesome'

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

also every teenage cover band in every garage everywhere owes the Stones a vote of thanks for helping them with material

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

You could make a case for Brian as their instrumental MVP for '66

Bob Dylan said in a recent interview that he was one of the best musicians he ever saw.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

I know very little Stones history, was Jones a childhood friend of anyone in the band or a guy on the scene/in other bands that they recruited?

grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

I always wondered how much of Mick & Keith's bitterness towards Brian was because Brian was actually a dick or because he was a dick with a sitar and brilliant ideas.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

of all the many many covers only the Feelies come close to doing it justice....

theStalePrince, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

Or classmate at school, that kinda thing?

grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

from all the anecdotes I've heard I think he was straight-up dick....like, to the point of severe mental problems, from what I have been able to parse in the stuff that's been going around. I think they would have LIKED him if he was just talented.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

Jones was an established musician with a band and if memory serves Mick & Keith answered an advertisment in the local paper or something

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

yep, according to Wiki it went thusly:

Jones left Cheltenham and moved to London where he became friends with fellow musicians Alexis Korner, future Manfred Mann singer Paul Jones, future Cream bassist Jack Bruce and others who made up the small London rhythm and blues and jazz scene there. He became a blues musician, for a brief time calling himself "Elmo Lewis", and playing slide guitar. Jones also started a group with Paul Jones called the Roosters and in January 1963, after both Brian and Paul left the group, Eric Clapton took over Brian's position as guitarist.[11]

Jones placed an advertisement in Jazz News (a Soho club information sheet) of 2 May 1962 inviting musicians to audition for a new R&B group at the Bricklayer's Arms pub; pianist Ian "Stu" Stewart was the first to respond. Later singer Mick Jagger also joined this band; Jagger and his childhood friend Keith Richards had met Jones when he and Paul Jones were playing Elmore James' "Dust My Broom" with Korner's band at the Ealing Jazz Club.[12] Jagger brought guitarist Richards to rehearsals; Richards then joined the band. Jones's and Stewart's acceptance of Richards and the Chuck Berry songs he wanted to play coincided with the departure of blues purists Geoff Bradford and Brian Knight, who had no tolerance for Chuck Berry.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I know very little Stones history, was Jones a childhood friend of anyone in the band or a guy on the scene/in other bands that they recruited?

the Stones were Jones' band, he's the founding member!

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I'm astonished to realise I know hardly anything about this

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

i think just a dick, tbh. if you've been in bands you probably know this guy. best musician in the room by far, brings a TON to the party. as a result, wants to do none of the hard work of actually writing songs, booking gigs, etc. just shows up, makes your stuff better, criticizes, wants full share of glory, groupies, and gold. Add to that can't handle his drugs and yeah, it would chafe.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

I can dimly recall some 7th grade writing assignment where I quoted from "Paint It Black" not going so well (teacher not digging the Stones? my own weak command of point of view?) probably these days the whole vast administrative machinery for disturbed youth would've lurched into motion....

theStalePrince, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

jones was displaced once the emphasis shifted to creating original songs, rather than r&b/blues covers. did jones ever write anything?

tylerw, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

From what I read, Brian Jones was closer to OJ Simpson than Syd Barrett. Not a nice guy, to put it mildly.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

it's funny the first time i ever heard paint it black was watching this (probably inappropriate for a 9-year-old) TV show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z6fcd--354
i guess it's a full metal jacket rip / reference.

tylerw, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

oh jeez. yeah, i wasn't even thinking about that stuff.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

funny we should save the Dark Side of Brian Jones discussion for Paint It, Black

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

My #1. I just never get tired of this one.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

Jones was pretty violent too, if you believe the stories, especially with women -- Keef's story is that it was Jones' violent outbursts with Pallenberg that eventually sealed the deal of them hooking up

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

Jones tried writing a couple of songs, I read Mick or Keith saying once, but they were these horrendously complicated numbers with like a hundred jazz chords. It was never going to work.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

my #1 too!

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

That's all for my top 5 except for #2 left

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

brian jones - really?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Doesn't look good for my #1 and my #2 is definitely out, but I was never sure either would make the countdown.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Supposedly, Hendrix and Brian were pretty tight, and Hendrix' take on the situation was that Mick & Keef were just jealous. But he likely didn't hear the whole story.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

Not looking good for my #1 at all.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

When my sister postgraduated a few years back I took her and my parents out for a celebratory dinner at Claridge's.  It was very nice.

My dad and I were lounging on the couches in the lobby afterwards, rather decadently we fancied, while the girls went to the ladies.  This statuesque brunette sashayed down the stairs in a bronze dress while we gawped - utterly gorgeous.  So much so that we only spotted the old wrinkly guy beside her at the last moment, all loose-limbed confidence and casual nods to the doormen as the couple disappeared outside to their taxi.

Of course it was Mick. We didn't talk or anything, or even get much of a look - he just monkeyed past, looking pleased with the world.  I found out later he'd been living there for a year after Jerry Hall had finally kicked him out for good, so we'd basically been eating in his kitchen and hanging out at his front door.

Thirty seconds later my mum & sister came out the bathrooms, all enthusiastic about the vast selection of hand creams they'd been trying.  When we told them what they'd missed they barrelled out the doors after them, but they'd already gone.  As they're both massive Stones fans and it was my sister's big night, it was all too cruel.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks folks, very inciteful! I knew none of this.

grandavis, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

my privilege

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link


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