big hoos & owenf watch 'battlestar galactica' and no one talks abt eps they haven't seen yet

Apollo improves with time. Takes a while for him to not seem like the stereotypical whiny-rebellious captain's son

And he gets more handsome.

Helo is the handsomest IMO. We are talking about Battlestar ws's right, lol

Well, more handsome except for that brief no wait no spoilers.

Grace Park is all-time ws territory.

it does seem strange to watch this in the post-war-on-terror era. at the time this was like the only TV show that seemed to grapple seriously with post-9/11 sorts of traumas/issues
--Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier)

Yeah I mean there was a moment where they show all these p obviously 9/11-style memorial/missing posters on the ship and I was like "I wonder if this was *moving* in 2003 instead of heavy-handed"

I doubt everyone will get this ref but I keep thinking the aesthetic reminds me of the game Wing Commander 3.

lol I just that passed that on to Mr Veg who said u r otm, Hoos :)

Delete the first 'that', ffs

p. sure it was still heavy-handed, but hey it's sf. and a far better response than say, 24

I kind of hate all the cheering bits tbh

Def

p. sure it was still heavy-handed, but hey it's sf. and a far better response than say, 24
--mookieproof

Def

hey Laurie and I are right about where you are Hoos, we are also digging it. She hates Baltar though and calls him "penis man", as in "led around by his...".

To be fair to Gaius, I'd roll the dice with the future of the human race to get with Caprica Six.

Otm

the smash-cut w/timpanis at the start of every ep, what's that about? Idgi

^

ugh I know, you get the little 'they have a plan bit' then the 'last week' then the bit of actual real show (with no indicator of when it's started) and then the title, the the timpanis and episode spoilers.

there are a LOT of cheering/back slapping moments.

Not entirely sure how down I am with 'frack' yet. Don't think I ever will be.

i think the first season there were a lot of characters that were aggravating and irritating that i warmed to in future seasons. boomer being one of them.

and Mary McDonnell is so PRESIDENTIAL.
She should be in first lady to Martin Sheen in something.

'a'

i liked her assistant

he hasn't had much to do so far really. Hope he gets a more substantial role. He seems like a nice chap.

I liked the boomer/assistant
"he's a freedom fighter" "he's a terrorist" argument.

baltar's a pretty neat trick in this, but i am old and still have fond, dimly remembered memories of baltar in the original

Oh jeez shades of the Crazy in madam prez thinking Adama is a cylon, the way her voice shook while she wore that bathrobe & fretted.

Love baltar a lot btw

Watching this w/headphones is intense btw

do the headphones have 9-11 trauma issues?

i'd kinda like to play along, but i don't think i'll be able to keep up to speed

well part of my quick clip atm is that i'm unemployed and watching 2+ eps a day on hulu

lol

btw speaking of hulu, is anybody watching the ""hulu original program"" "battleground"? it's basically 'the office' set in a state senate campaign office. kinda fun, lightly wonky.

lol i haven't watched any of The 4 Best Dramas Of The Last 25 Years

we need you get you some free time, mookie

I think some of my favorite scenes as it goes on is with all of them getting lit up on hooch. That really brings out the angst, especially in the old fellas.

If they are all sitting around drinking, get ready, it's getting ready to throw down.

opening poker scene with Starbuck and old grizzleguts is one of my faves

oh, i have free time

i just do little worthwhile with it

Starbuck is my fave x 10. Is she the obv all-fan fave?

Carl is my fav

Doesn't the "they have a plan" opening change as the show goes on?

Carl is my fav

awwwww

Saul Tigh pretty much steals the show even if drunk and surly is pretty much M.O. He gets some of the best scenes the whole series.

thanks to Tigh 'gods dammit' lives forever in my cursing phrasebook

Was kinda disappointed that the big meeting to hash out wonky political questions turned into "nominate a vice president, then incongruously party." major lol @ bangin the reporter in the bathroom. The mad scientist being vp with prez's looming expiration date is interesting but also kinda says something's gonna come along to shift the trajectory of some things--there's no way he winds up president. I think.

kinda surprised there was no #occupygalactica meme

Haha yeah when zarrack is on screen I keep finding myself thinking "occupy galactica" and kind of wanting to stick up for the guy who's obv a ~masses fooling populist~

at occupy's trending-topic height i'm sure i saw adama's face somewhere, i mean george takei was tweeting about occupying arrakis for a while there.

"So Say We All" via human mic

damn what a season finale, coup and two shots to the gut, goddamn

starbuck going into hysterics seemed weirdly out of character tho imo

brace yourself, hoostein

I keep thinking the aesthetic reminds me of the game Wing Commander 3.

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btw here i'm just thinking like

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lol that i watched the first season in 2 days btw

you're gonna need a 12-step when it's over, son

so owenf i am all caught up

when do you think you'll be prepared to launch s2?

i'm up to battlesode S02E16. in general i'm still enjoying the show a lot, but i'm starting to notice a lot more flaws and annoying things, and the eyeroll-to-battlesode ratio is increasing at condition 1-worthy rates.

the particular way that religion is used to drive the story is annoying. i'm cool with the quest for earth, but i don't like how it's actually executed. there's no logic to it. there are a series of episodes in season 2 that essentially serve as rpg-style fetch quests - first you must find the mystic arrow of apollo! (an episode or two is dedicated to this quest. everyone levels up). NOW, you must take the arrow of apollo to the legendary tomb, whose location is unknown! (an episode or two is dedicated to this quest. everyone levels up). it's just really lame. there's no logic to what they're doing, they're just following scripture, and so there's zero satisfaction when they actually accomplish their goals. i want the arrow to accidentally guide them to venus and kill the exploration ship so that everyone decides to renounce the religion all at once.

why did they change the theme song from season 1? the new theme song is terrible.

from what i understand, one of the last battlesodes i watched (s2e14) is regarded as the very worst. it's the one that introduces two women that lee has fallen in love with, only one of them only exists in about 3 or 4 seconds of footage that gets chopped up and shown about 30-40 times during the hour. the whole thing depends on making you care about these relationships with lee, but they never bother to provide any context or background, and i'm almost certain we'll never see either of his spurned lovers again. it doesn't help that they seemed to have rented out a replacement director from a 1992 episode of one life to live to take charge - the look and feel, pace, editing, everything is embarrassing. battlesode s2e15 is similarly bad in that it's a detour that doesn't do anything to advance the plot.

i love this show!

yeah there are a handful of one-off episodes that apparently the network was pushing them to do but by and large they all suck and are stupid. I remember Scar being one of the better ones. The boxing one is lol.

also *spoilerz* the fact that the president was saved using *controversial* embryonic stem cell research is so lol mid-2000s.

did they have a Terry Schiavo episode I forget

They had an abortion episode, but I don't think they had a Tery Schiavo episode.

The one about Lee's tender, deep, totally unexplored love affair with a random space prostitute is dreadful (maybe s2e14?).

I think I blocked a fair number of these from my memory

I remember the abortion one - which was at least tangentially relevant to a steadily declining refugee population but yeah most of them are better left forgotten

oh, "Black Market". you the worst

It's true, this show is basically an RPG. Apollo in particular spends a lot of time experimenting with the job system.

Yeah Black Market. That was the one that was truly dreadful.

also pretty much the entire BSG crew has been in a situation where one or more people are holding a gun to their heads. lee alone has had a gun pointed him at least 30 times at this point. they don't even look nervous anymore

haha they use that trope more and more as the show goes on - so many cliffhangers with guns pointed

the last season probably has like 50 mexican standoffs

tbf karl you are getting to the very best part imo

i imagine that by the fourth season:

- "previously on battlestar galactica" - shots of intense good/bad/ugly-style showdown, guns drawn and pointed at all participants
- battlesode commences; lee, helo, and sharon are all pointing guns at each other and shouting. suddenly a door slams open. a three new gun barrels enter the room, pointed at lee, helo, and sharon, but we can't see who is holding them just yet
- future vision stream! scenes from the forthcoming episode - closeups of guns drawn and people shouting at each other. sweat
- battlesode commences for real this time
- we finally see who is entering the room. turns out the new arrivals are ANOTHER set of three people with guns drawn on each other. this time it's the XO, starbuck, and the chief. the chief points the gun at the XO, who points his gun at starbuck, who points her gun at the chief. as they shuffle into the new room, they notice the situation with lee, helo, and sharon, and react accordingly. the XO points his other weapon at lee, starbuck targets sharon, and the chief targets helo. lee, helo, and sharon respond in kind with their extra weapons.
- paranoia. more sweat. it's getting hot. shouting.
- the two triangle shaped standoffs have coalesced into a hexagon showdown. but the temperature is positively suffocating. they agree to move to a larger room - but the door is too small! (commercial)
- they unpack their hexagon showdown to a single file line. this is difficult because they need to be arranged so that each participant is surrounded by two potential enemies. the argument about who is or is not a Cylon transforms into an argument about how the formation should change. (commercial)
- they finally emerge into a larger room and resume their hexagon showdown shape. but the cylons attack and it's condition 1 so they all have to go back to their stations so that they can be ready to point their gun at someone else's head

Don't forget flashbacks to troubling memories from someone's past.

the particular way that religion is used to drive the story is annoying. i'm cool with the quest for earth, but i don't like how it's actually executed. there's no logic to it.

I don't want to spoil anything, but you should ne prepared to feel this way a lot more as the series goes on... :(

"ne" = "be"

yeah, i'm definitely expecting/dreading it.

There's a transcript somewhere of a roundtable with a lot of the cast and writers that they did while the show was still going. As I recall, Jaime Bamber very forcefully argued that the show had made a terrible mistake humanizing the Cylons, and basically everyone agreed that "33" was the high point of the show and they were never going to do anything that worked quite as well.

that sounds too good to be true

I doubt "it was all downhill from the first episode" was a genuinely popular opinion to espouse on-set

33 definitely was the most effective episode. It's too bad, they probably could have done a few episodes about that first crucial flight from the Cylons.

just finished rapture (season 3, battlesode 12).

so everyone is super religious now. fuck. one one hand it occasionally leads to interesting results. i don't mind the cylon religious stuff so much, with lucy lawless trying to see the faces of the five, and gaius on his messianic journey (i enjoy thinking about his entire storyline as taking place entirely in his narcissistic genius mind, insanely eating itself). but chief having a religious experience while searching for the eye of jupiter? barf sandwich. and even seemingly non-religious characters like lee buying into it (the whole intense firefight with the cylons is necessary because they're trying to stall while chief searches for a religious icon). it's just really, really bad, and as the show goes on it dedicates more and more time to it.

i don't ask for much. i only want three things. i want to watch adama and his crew battle/run away from cylons. i want to watch the cylons do things on their (super bright, oversaturated) ship. i want to watch the humans and cylons struggle with themselves over what it means to be having babies together. that's it. i rue the day that roslin saw the light. i hate watching chief gradually turn into the vice-president of his local Promisekeepers group. i hate learning that starbuck is a cosmic gamechanger foretold by scripture. i hate listening to lee bark out "we have to hold this position til chief finds the eye of jupiter!!!" to the people around him without him following up with "...wait am i high? wtf are we doing here"

i know i'm repeating myself. sorry.

has anyone seen Caprica?

Yes. It was okay, and then it got canceled.

I liked Caprica. Always mean to finish it up on Netflix, missed the last 6 or so episodes. bear in mind it's nothing like BSG, more of a soap opera using the young BSG universe as a backdrop. No space stuff, lots of junk about terrorism, robots and Strange Days.

Hated Caprica, couldnt get into it

Hated all the dumb ethnic/tribal stuff ("Taurans drive like THIS")

Caprica gets ok toward then end and then is immediately cancelled

Yeah, that was my feeling, too. It was just starting to get its bearings and then it was gone.

don't worry, some of the actors have redistributed to other Vancouver-shot science fiction shows

yeah the last few episodes of Caprica got really interesting and then *blip* gone :(

Just got to Season 4. well THAT completely sucked me in again.

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