I was thinking abut this in the car on the way home from work, that sticky fingers/exile and other albums that I'm not thinking of show how good the Stones were at what NOT to include on a song, when to be big and brassy, when to be silent, you know everything is so well crafted even though it always *feels* loose and off the cuff. I dunno. They have a talent for arranging, I think. Is that mostly Keef, or Mick, or all of them?
From the Hail Hail documentary I got the impression that Keef is actually a pretty good band-wrangler
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
surprised its not at the top ten
― nostormo, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
Despite Mick's reputation (mostly Keith's cavils) for "modernizing," he's a damn good producer.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
is that jimmy miller?
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
as producer Mick helmed the post-Jimmy Miller period from '74 to '80 -- as Keith himself has acknowledged several times.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
due to its length, breadth and general go-for-broke ottness, "you can't always get what you want" is initially spectacular, but gets tiresome fast.
"dead flowers" is forever
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
that is indeed Mister Jimmy
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
This is another one I really came to love in the process of learning how to sing it. Would love it much, much more if it opened with the just the guitar and the horn. Don't mind the choir at the end but hate it at the beginning.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
thanks Rog
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
i really don't understand how charlie couldn't play this beat so jimmy miller had to?
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
as someone else mentioned, the version on Brussels '73 boot with the extended sax solo is killer
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
i love the choir, smart ass puncture of the sentimentality and 'wisdom' before mick has sang a word but then at the end comes back in to make the whole thing the epic it had started out mocking. it's like in that wes anderson movie when gene hackman is telling a lie and halfway thru telling it realizes it's the truth. their 'hey jude' fwiw, but so much better imo. i had it at #20.
― balls, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
so we saving the top 15 for tomorrow, or just the top 10?
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
their 'hey jude' fwiw, but so much better imo.
don't think it's any better than "hey jude", but then i don't think it's any worse. both brilliant, timeless songs, both can be a little hard to take.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
plus the best moment (tough task) in the big chill is jobeth williams playing this on the organ at kevin costner's funeral.
― balls, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
kind of dislike this, not sure why
― mookieproof, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
It goes for to bloody long, iirc
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
*too
#1 on my most-hated list
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, April 5, 2012
top 10
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
16. Monkey Man – 515 points (23 votes, 1x #1)
https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/StonesLeedsRettie059MHG.jpghttp://www.youtu.be/DMgyTUtdkpA
http://www.timeisonourside.com/SOMonkey.html
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
unexpected
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
great song, and i hate to say this, but WAY TOO HIGH! jeez louise.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
FWIW, the 45 mix of "You Can't..." cuts the choir along with segments f the lyrics.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
the results are all kinds o' weird
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
most popular Stones songs on youtube:1. Angie2. Satisfaction3. Paint it black4. Brown Sugar5. Sympathy for the devil
wonder what ilx top 5 will be for comparison
― nostormo, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
wyman on the vibes!
― buzza, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
hearing this song in goodfellas is what prompted me to deliberately listen to the rolling stones (ie buy an album - let it bleed). haven't looked back.
― balls, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
a trifle too satanic!
― fit and working again, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
let's not start guessing what's left...
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
dig "Monkey Man" but it's interesting to see the kind of song that's consensus on ILM evidently: 68-72, solid meat & potatoes Stones, the earthy years. did we do a general 70s poll on this board? thinking there's more taste for classic rock here than I thought
― Euler, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
monkey man is one of those songs where it's great and then if you break it down into its individual parts it is even more great
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty classic, on my ballot, though here it's above some songs I love a lot more. (Let it Loose was my #1.)
― JoeStork, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
feel free to say a few words about "let it loose"!
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
Speaking of Satanic, anyone see Fallen (1998) with Denzel Washington? I think that's the one that put "Time Is On My Side" to effectively creepy use, where a serial killer is executed, but his spirit possesses different people to carry on the same kind of killings, and always whistles that song.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
every time ABKCO gets paid like that a kitten ODs
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
on catnip, guys, on catnip
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
hey balls, it is real nice to see you posting more again
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
it's interesting to see the kind of song that's consensus on ILM evidently: 68-72, solid meat & potatoes Stones
Nothing wrong with focusing on that 5 year period. It was a doozy. But with these polls, it seems the songs that win are usually the frontrunners, like When the Levee Breaks & Life On Mars. If Gimme Shelter wins by less than 100 points, I'd be surprised.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
The intro to Monkey Man is exquisite and I cannot believe how much I always love it. My #6.
You Can't Always Get What You Want: My #3. Even after living through Classic Rock Radio and hearing this song way more times than necessary, I still am completely in love with everything about it, including the choir and the lyrics and the overplayedness.
― Life Is Most Assuredly NOT a Long Song (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
― balls, Friday, April 6, 2012 12:03 AM (33 minutes ago)
Hehe, same thing happened to me, except it was Nilsson! Didn't realize Monkey Man was even in Goodfellas, tho, but it makes sense, so sleazy and paranoid. My #2.
― Nanker's Away (Spectrist), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
the slide and piano breakdown from approx 2:30 to 3:10 is awfully nice too imo
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
Ugh, remind me to switch my i and u keys around. self xp
― Nanker's Away (Spectrist), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
15. (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction – 544 points (23 votes)
http://vedettesbritanniques.retrojeunesse60.com/TheRollingStones4.jpghttp://www.youtu.be/8_VbImuG71M
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol it's the same scene as the nilsson! maybe someone can pipe up w/ a 'i owe my george harrison fandom to goodfellas'.
― balls, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
15
― balls, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
felt like i *should* have voted for satisfaction, but didn't
monkey man is tremendous, my #4
― mookieproof, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
xp currently at work, would love to say more later tho
― JoeStork, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
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― some dude, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link