MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

the Prince "Honky Tonk Women" is classic

impressed no one has made a cowbell crack yet

23. Under My Thumb – 423 points (18 votes)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/altamonthd6.jpg
http://www.youtu.be/7mZdvFSiWQI

Best marimbas in rock.

No way! I was expecting this at no.2.

I feel slightly guilty that I dig the Altamont version the most.

funny you should say. the pic didn't work, but it was supposed to be this:

http://i44.tinypic.com/1492t6w.jpg

The guy gurning from 1:21 onwards is terrifying

god that pic just freezes my stomach

Thought this would be higher for some reason as well (though it was a late cut from my ballot). The marimba hook is classic in itself, I agree.

that so-mental-it-works-and-goes-next-level ornamentation is really what was lost with jones. the ruby tuesday recorder, the (as yet unheard-from) mad sitar that takes "paint it, black" over the edge

i'm surprised there aren't more "sexist!" charges just about now

oh right, sorry: what is sexist exactly about the rolling stones' under my thumb?

"Under My Thumb" has had a lot more not-actually-sexist defenses than a lot of other Stones songs (many of which are plainly indefensible on that front), don't really see the need for that convo in this thread and least of all about that song

xpost

although i'm kind of amazed that thread doesn't bring up Ellen Willis: http://jezebel.com/5797747/the-willis-test-is-the-new-bechdel-test

Indian Girl is more offensive, right? If only from a quality POV!

if we're widening the net from sexist to offensive then "Thumb" wouldn't even make the top 10 Stones songs up for debate

POLLED IN THE MARKET DOWN IN NEW ORLEANS

haha, so true some dude

it's OK, Rog, your first poll thread had the probably best poll title pun ever

ha. point being, i ruled the above out on the basis of "too offensive"

it's easy to forget how "edgy" dudes were in their day. my gf grew up in a funk/soul/gospel household and is relatively new to the notion of enjoying music made by white people. she's coming round on the Stones based on a) stolen from black people and b) "winter," but remarked last night in re "sweet virginia" whoa they did swear a lot huh? and i'm like "and that's the lyrics you can make out." then put on "star star"

Exile is probably one of the first major rock records w/substantial profanity in the lyrics.

damn, this is really low for Under My Thumb. does Heart of Stone even stand a chance anymore?

I don't have much of a feeling on Under My Thumb except I don't really like it. I find it kinda, skeevy? Something. I hate the line about she's a siamese cat of a girl, it just gets in my head and blehhhh yuk.

The sexism? I mean, you could argue that they've had that same basic pose for their whole career, it's kind of stupid to just hone in on one song. You form a band with a bunch of oversexed horndogs, that's what happens.

I just heard "No Scrubs" again. Still far more sexist than "Under My Thumb."

― rogermexico., Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:33 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf

say whatnow

love "2000 light years from home", was my #2 (though largely for strategic reasons). one of the few genuinely psychedelic stones stones that actually works.

love "brown sugar", too, but didn't vote for it. exposure fatigue, i guess, cuz it's a hell of a lot of fun.

"under my thumb" is brilliant full stop & brilliantly nasty (those marimbas! "sweetest ... pet in the world"), but it's always irritated the shit out of me, so i cut it w prejudice.

and yeah, boggled by the "no scrubs" comment

xpost we can discuss it in this thread if u like: what is sexist, exactly, about TLC's "No Scrubs"?

Wow, voting "2000 Light Years ..." #2 for strategic reasons is pretty heavy. Interested to see just how gamed other people's ballots are.

feel like i walked into /mra

I'm still trying to understand why I included "Who's Driving Your Plane?" on my ballot

I don't want no "No Scrubs" discussion itt

although i'm kind of amazed that thread doesn't bring up Ellen Willis: http://jezebel.com/5797747/the-willis-test-is-the-new-bechdel-test

this is prob the wrong thread for it, but the willis test strikes me as nonsense. for one thing, i could see a woman singing "wild world" to her (young, naive and handsome toyboy) lover. make a good marianne faithful song, imo. for another, lots of not-sexist songs wouldn't work terribly well with the genders reversed: "street fighting man", for instance.

^ more crap that doesn't belong itt

2000 light years was my #3 for the reason that it has always been one of my favorite stones songs

see ppl this is why I didnt vote Under My Thumb

i did!

i could see a woman singing "wild world" to her (young, naive and handsome toyboy) lover

Concrete Blonde's "Joey" was not yet dreamt of in Ellen Willis' 1971 philosophy

anyway, rolling stones - great band!

anyway re frank's comment in the under my thumb thread basically saying it's all ironic/in character -- this might be true and i'm typically willing to believe it, but i'm so sick of it. feel like this is basically the defense used every single time an old rocker is accused of being shitty and there's no way it's always true. people really need to be able to fathom the possibility that their favorite decrepit rock stars were shitty people in the 70s.

Did not mean to imply that "2000 Light Years ..." was not awesome! Just interested in the strategic poll phenomena. Pretty much all of these songs are great, probably why there isn't much hand-wringing going on with this poll compared to the others I've taken part in.

Wow, voting "2000 Light Years ..." #2 for strategic reasons is pretty heavy. Interested to see just how gamed other people's ballots are.

not saying i don't love the song! i do love it, but considering there were like 40 songs i absolutely HAD to vote for and no way to for me to sensibly "rank" a lot of them, my whole ballot was essentially strategic.

Pretty much all of these songs are great, probably why there isn't much hand-wringing going on with this poll compared to the others I've taken part in.

yeah, i've been happy to see every song arrive, even stuff that i cut happily. except "i am waiting", i guess.

22. Let It Loose – 430 points (16 votes, 2x #1)

https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/DTMICKNELLCOTE.jpg
http://www.youtu.be/DyQ7YVXrCk4

Didn't vote for UMT but relistening to Aftermath this afternoon I'm thinking I should've. I've also realised I've really been underrating that album and Let It Bleed ('Midnight Rambler' is the key to the latter).

jeez every song from exile huh guys

Is this the best song on Exile? I think it probably is.

oh yes, there was no way i was leaving this off my ballot--glad it's above shine a light, which this is superior to

I subbed in Let It Loose for every other song on Exile that I wanted to vote for.

#7 for me I think