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For sure. Like how she notes the infinite number of people who have never been born, and how they've never complained?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 April 2012 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

She still ends with this, though:

The decision to have a child, or one more child, or yet another child may seem to be a personal one—a choice about how many diapers you want to change in the short term versus how many Mother’s Day cards you hope to receive later on. But to see it in these terms alone is to be, as Caplan points out on the cover of his book, selfish. Whatever you may think of Overall’s and Benatar’s conclusions, it’s hard to argue with their insistence that the decision to have a child is an ethical one. When we set the size of our families, we are, each in our own small way, determining how the world of the future will look. And we’re doing this not just for ourselves and our own children; we’re doing it for everyone else’s children, too.

which I guess is technically true, although I find it to be kind of an irrelevant conclusion, and also a typically (for the New Yorker set) self-important one. Most of the audience for an article like this is starting families late and having zero to maybe three children at most. And two factors make a much bigger difference to their impact than the number of children they have: (1) the distance between generations and (2) the consumptive patterns of each child. Well-off western families are going to continue to have small families with spread out generations, irrespective of ethical concerns, but that consume like 10x as much as the people in other parts of the world having 8 kids starting at age 16. Fretting about the "ethics" of having children (or an extra child) is pointless. Supporting policies that favor family planning, education for women and reduced consumption might actually make a difference.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

I found that last paragraph out of step with the rest of the piece -- as if a large section was edited out. She really didn't say much about ethical reasoning as much as philosophical, at least as far as ethics is framed in the last two sentences.

john. a resident of chicago., Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

gopnik piece on camus/sartre is p terrible

Lamp, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

haha you literally could not formulate a piece i would have less interest in reading

max, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

otm

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

otm again i skipped that in a heartbeat

johnny crunch, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

Actually the NYer does formulate pieces I have less interest in reading every week, but they are usually either the non-lead talk of the town pieces, shouts & murmurs, or one of those weird shopping survey articles that that one lady does every so often.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

would rather read 100 patricia marx articles than gopnik on sartre

max, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

feel like I should read it and report back now

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

would rather burn my entire face off than read even a single word of adam gopnik about sartre

max, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

wld rather die in an unexpected car crash

dayo, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

wld rather die in an EXPECTED car crash

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

its a p good piece tho srs u guys j/k issue just finished dling

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

lol the don draper of existentialism is this 4 real

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

bahahahaha

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

I hope the other of the two (whichever it is) is the Sterling Cooper

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

uh I mean Roger Sterling sorry

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

the french novelist and philosopher albert camus was a terrifically good looking guy whom women fell for helplessly - the don draper of existentialism.

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

irl opening sentence of this article^

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

terrifically

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

I thought Mad Men kind of made Don Draper out to be the Don Draper of existentialism

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

camus, the don draper of don draper

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

camus on a cone

dayo, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

the pete campbell of nihilism

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

haha the whole article is full of these self-satisfied bromides that dont make any sense. i mean i do admire camus but gopniks piece is so wrong-headed its just like '...'

Lamp, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

the 1st part re the social dynamic between attractives and nerds is so 'things adam gopnik has thought a lil too much abt'

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

Is the new Gopnik article another excuse for him to talk about himself?

Office Tebow (Leee), Sunday, 8 April 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

Article about Karl May is COMPLETELY FUCKING BONKERS. I knew about Schubert adoring James Fenimore Cooper but i had no IDEA about this.

tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

Also yeah took about 1.5 seconds to decide on skipping gopnick/sartre

tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Patricia Marx on couch-surfing was enjoyable enough and made me want to couch surf.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

someone should find a way to combine couch-surfing, crowd-surfing, and crowd-sourcing and call it couch-sourcing.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

mailman dropped off new issue and i read it in 3 minutes.

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

couch-surfing, mecca, russian cooking, croatian party town, zzzzz.

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

i'm usually so easily entertained.

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

travel issue is always the worst. who the fuck wants to read about someone else's vacation?

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

croatoan party town

tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I have been known to skip travel issue in its entirety

tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

that and the style issue

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

oh and the titanic zzzzzzz...

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

Every article in the style issue is "Fashion Designer X is an artist and not just a guy who makes expensive clothes, no really"

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

i like to read about other people's vacations! if they're good writers

max, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

i don't mind travel stuff if the pictures are nice. or yeah good writers.

scott seward, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

The fact that they rebranded the travel issue as "Journeys" is even worse.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

i love how the couch surfing article painstakingly catalogs all of the rejected surfing opportunities that actually would have made for an interesting article - Marx starts by winnowing out profiles that include the word "party", and then proceeds to reject "a 'lovertarian' who grew up in Doylestown, Pennsylvania", a Hawaiian describing himself as "just a guy who has three acres of land, living in a shipping container house", a warlord from Kabul, and someone who has the had the hiccups every day for the past five years - before settling on Mrs. Boring McBorringster, a grad student from the University of Iowa.

1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

I like my travel stories bland. reaaaaal bland

1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't mind Gopnick's Camus article so much but I wanted more aphorisms from Camus' notebooks crowing about how hot he was.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

The fact that they rebranded the travel issue as "Journeys" is even worse.

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:24 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this sounds like classic nyer to me, is it def new

john-claude van donne (schlump), Thursday, 12 April 2012 09:20 (twelve years ago) link

Nicholas Lemann's omnibus review of several books addressing inequality. It's a classic New Yorker review: patient, expert at synthesis.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

Gopnik's piece on forty year nostalgia is really lame (cherry-picks a few cultural phenomena from each decade which are supposed to support his dumb point and ignore everything else.)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link


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