MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

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37. Play With Fire – 269 points (13 votes)

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/MBrbTqt3fxU/hqdefault.jpg
http://www.youtu.be/u5vn6OqnD_Q

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, I'm getting the vibe that some people aren't all that into the eighties stuff.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

lol Ismael whatever gave you that idea

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

love it, love the guitar, love the lyric, didn't vote for it though

Euler, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

Love Play With Fire. LOVE

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

also did not vote for it

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

Hey another of mine placed! This song owns!

Year of the RMDE (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

makes a nice pair with midnight rambler imo. what's always grabbed me about "play with fire" is the undercurrent of menace.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

Not really a fan of Rambler -- thought about putting it on my most-hated list but realized how OTT that would be. I don't know why it turns me off. (xp -- Shakey may have it nailed)

I've always felt like this would be an important element of the really good polls, and it has been present in e.g. Bowie, but the Stones is the first where I can feel like fans of one era might hate other eras.

Yeah, I do kind of dislike Stones stuff from the last 20-25 years, but more the idea of it existing at all rather than anything specific. As I mentioned on the voting thread, I was surprised at how much I liked A Bigger Bang. Just a totally irrational take from someone who gravitated from songs to noise, drones and the avant-garde over the last couple of decades. I think I drank a little of the critical "hey you dinosaurs, quit existing and turn into oil already" kool-aid. Unfair in this case, probably.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

setting aside concerns of rich old bastards making insane amounts of money off of subpar tours/albums, i think it's kind of awesome just to see a rock'n'roll band play together for FIFTY FUCKING YEARS, just because it's such uncharted territory. and hey all their pld blues heroes keep playing guitar with arthritic fingers until the day they drop dead, why not the Stones too?

some dude, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

pld=old

some dude, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

stones from Tattoo You forward much less embarrassing than U2 from Pop forward imo

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

xxposts mick is complicated imo. the moment in Gimme Shelter (the motion picture) when Things Get Real always breaks my heart a little. all at once he's just a skinny theater kid who didn't realize until just now that the audience wasn't in on the joke, had never been in on the joke, didn't know it was all a show at all...

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

Totally, some dude. The Paul Simon catalogue was such an eye opener because he's still fresh and has been going even longer. He's got a rich lyrical seam to keep mining though, whereas the Stones have it a bit more difficult I feel.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

CHILD OF THE MOON!!! yes, so glad this made the cut! my #1 for reasons i can't fully explain, it just sticks with me. love the deathly drone, the melodic hook, the weirdly inverted & cryptic flower child sentiment. such a great song, and unique in their catalog (though i guess 2000 light years from home is similar, love that too).

all at once he's just a skinny theater kid who didn't realize until just now that the audience wasn't in on the joke, had never been in on the joke, didn't know it was all a show at all...

agree that this is totally depressing moment

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

stones from Tattoo You forward much less embarrassing than U2 from Pop forward imo

would agree, but the failure to be embarrassing isn't always a victory. U2 have had more worthy tunes in the post-pop era than the stones since tattoo you, jmo.

That's a great summary roger xp. Keith is in a way the personification of evil in that very same bit, where Mick's shouting at him to shut up but he just keeps jamming, enjoying the show.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

xxpost god yeah, that moment in Gimme Shelter...it's all over his face, so fucking sad

I liked what Mick said to Wenner about how journalists were falling over themselves to parse a meaning from that moment and for him it was someone died, and that's more than enough.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

Love Play With Fire. LOVE

...also did not vote for it

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl)

yeah, same here. one of the dumber omissions from my list.

also love "midnight rambler" and didn't vote for that either. don't regret it though.

i have to admit that i've been soured on "Play With Fire" partly by the absolutely horrible interpolation of it on a Lil Wayne song a few years ago

some dude, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

IMHO, it was poorly used in The Darjeeling Limited too.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

so far most disappointed about "live with me" being so low.

and there's a score of harebrained children
they're all locked in the nursery
they got earphone heads they got dirty necks
they're so 20th century

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

haha are we done with the Wes Anderson portion of the thread yet?

some dude, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

I'm on Lester Bangs' side re Altamont: Jagger, as rogermexico reminded us, looked like a charlatan while Keith was the only one who met force with force (i.e. we're not playing anymore until you guys CUT IT OUT).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

also: Jagger expressing sympathy for the victims was as inauthentic as Madonna crying at her mom's grave in Truth or Dare. Give these guys masks and they'll tell the truth every fucking time.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

also: "Play With Fire" yay!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

Lol I haven't seen Darjeeling Limited

Ftr I'm still furious w myself for neglecting Jigsaw Puzzle

Year of the RMDE (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

"Street Fighting Man" was in Mr. Fox! xpsts

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

Charlie's reaction here to HA bullshit strikes me as so human, so sad, and so grown-up: http://www.nme.com/nme-video/youtube/id/a4OUEZSg8xY/search/off

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

I like thinking that Play With Fire is like a Part 2 of Heart of Stone, where the false bravado has given way to a kind of menace.
I think a lot, lol.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

Play with Fire sounds to me the template for Love, another Wes A fave.

Year of the RMDE (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

ENOUGH WITH WES ANDERSON

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

:)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

my favorite Play With Fire interpolation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTR-7LU3Fc

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

and hey all their pld blues heroes keep playing guitar with arthritic fingers until the day they drop dead, why not the Stones too?

Yeah, I seem to recall an interview with Mick where he made exactly this point. I couldn't fault the logic, and a lot of my disdain for old rock musicians, especially British Invasion bands, dropped away at that point. There are more worthy targets.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

xp yeah, that's p great

xp Yeah, the "hope I die before I get old" sentiment ended as soon as the boomers realized they'll mostly live past 80 or 90. They might as well keep working to offset the ones who will be bankrupting the social security system and whatever they have in the UK.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Meanwhile Keef the cock-a-roacha has shown some signs of frailty lately and I fear won't be seeing 90, let alone 80.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

according to a recent article in RS, the band thought Keith was in seriously bad shape.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

yay! Happy!!

This was one of my last cuts, goddamn it hurt.
I love the line 'Never wanna be like papa, workin' for the boss every night and day'...after reading Keef's book I feel like this is Keef in song form. I love it, I love his singing voice...it's a fun jam

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

when Keith finally kicks it i'll feel like i did when Jack Lalane or George Burns finally passed, like "what!? you're not allowed to die!"

some dude, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

I don't want to entertain the thought of no Keef

that bums me out

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

I will cry more than I did when Strummer died

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

love happy, tho it didn't make the cut on my ballot. some of the live versions of that song are pretty lol, keith seeming to have no clue how to sing into a microphone, jagger trying to keep things together.

tylerw, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

i let "happy" go even before "turd on the run" (and just about blew a fuse cutting that), but am super glad to see it here, easily the sunniest exile track. also one of the few keef songs i really dig.

keith-sung, i mean, he wrote lots of great shit

xp I read that same article and another one. They took a break from touring due to unspecified health issues Keith was dealing with, but since then he's played at least one gig and seemed okay.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link


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