keef's guitar playing on midnight rambler is scary.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
^ this. The little figures he plays in the minute or so before "You heard about the Boston..." are so quietly terrifying.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
I guess the catalogue is varied enough to have different stones for different folks
I've always felt like this would be an important element of the really good polls, and it has been present in e.g. Bowie, but the Stones is the first where I can feel like fans of one era might hate other eras.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
Did you hear about the Midnight Rambler? He'll leave his footprints up and down your hall Did you hear about the Midnight Rambler? Did you see me make my midnight call
And if you catch the Midnight Rambler I'll steal your mistress from under your nose Well, go easy with your cold fandango I'll stick my knife right down your throat Baby, and it hurts!
It's more chilling and effective than say, The Doors' "The End." Less pretentious maybe?
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
always found that song deeply silly
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
x-post re: Doors A McDonald's hamburger is preferable to a piece of shit. What's your point?
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
I think I have a problem with any time Mick Jagger attempts being dark/threatening. dude is a clown, you can't do the rooster in yellow hotpants and then expect me to take you seriously as the prince of darkness or whatever.
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
I love all of those evil Mick showcases on Let It Bleed (Live With Me, Let It Bleed, Midnight Rambler, Monkey Man) which only make You Got the Silver that much more powerful.
― gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
the reason it works in Sympathy for the Devil is that he's still campy as hell
xp
I dig "Midnight Rambler" in the context of the album but I agree that it's one of Mick's sillier poses. I tend to get caught up in the ramp-it-up ending.
― Euler, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
He's like Ned Flanders as the Devil: it's always the one you least suspect.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
dig
I'll stick my knife right down your throat BABY AND IT HURTS boom clack
― Euler, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
the Stones is the first where I can feel like fans of one era might hate other eras.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, April 4, 2012
i think this only goes one way though, yes?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
37. Play With Fire – 269 points (13 votes)
http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/MBrbTqt3fxU/hqdefault.jpghttp://www.youtu.be/u5vn6OqnD_Q
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, I'm getting the vibe that some people aren't all that into the eighties stuff.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
lol Ismael whatever gave you that idea
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
love it, love the guitar, love the lyric, didn't vote for it though
― Euler, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
Love Play With Fire. LOVE
also did not vote for it
Hey another of mine placed! This song owns!
― Year of the RMDE (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
makes a nice pair with midnight rambler imo. what's always grabbed me about "play with fire" is the undercurrent of menace.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
Not really a fan of Rambler -- thought about putting it on my most-hated list but realized how OTT that would be. I don't know why it turns me off. (xp -- Shakey may have it nailed)
Yeah, I do kind of dislike Stones stuff from the last 20-25 years, but more the idea of it existing at all rather than anything specific. As I mentioned on the voting thread, I was surprised at how much I liked A Bigger Bang. Just a totally irrational take from someone who gravitated from songs to noise, drones and the avant-garde over the last couple of decades. I think I drank a little of the critical "hey you dinosaurs, quit existing and turn into oil already" kool-aid. Unfair in this case, probably.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
setting aside concerns of rich old bastards making insane amounts of money off of subpar tours/albums, i think it's kind of awesome just to see a rock'n'roll band play together for FIFTY FUCKING YEARS, just because it's such uncharted territory. and hey all their pld blues heroes keep playing guitar with arthritic fingers until the day they drop dead, why not the Stones too?
― some dude, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
pld=old
stones from Tattoo You forward much less embarrassing than U2 from Pop forward imo
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
xxposts mick is complicated imo. the moment in Gimme Shelter (the motion picture) when Things Get Real always breaks my heart a little. all at once he's just a skinny theater kid who didn't realize until just now that the audience wasn't in on the joke, had never been in on the joke, didn't know it was all a show at all...
Totally, some dude. The Paul Simon catalogue was such an eye opener because he's still fresh and has been going even longer. He's got a rich lyrical seam to keep mining though, whereas the Stones have it a bit more difficult I feel.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
CHILD OF THE MOON!!! yes, so glad this made the cut! my #1 for reasons i can't fully explain, it just sticks with me. love the deathly drone, the melodic hook, the weirdly inverted & cryptic flower child sentiment. such a great song, and unique in their catalog (though i guess 2000 light years from home is similar, love that too).
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
all at once he's just a skinny theater kid who didn't realize until just now that the audience wasn't in on the joke, had never been in on the joke, didn't know it was all a show at all...
agree that this is totally depressing moment
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
would agree, but the failure to be embarrassing isn't always a victory. U2 have had more worthy tunes in the post-pop era than the stones since tattoo you, jmo.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
That's a great summary roger xp. Keith is in a way the personification of evil in that very same bit, where Mick's shouting at him to shut up but he just keeps jamming, enjoying the show.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost god yeah, that moment in Gimme Shelter...it's all over his face, so fucking sad
I liked what Mick said to Wenner about how journalists were falling over themselves to parse a meaning from that moment and for him it was someone died, and that's more than enough.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
...also did not vote for it
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl)
yeah, same here. one of the dumber omissions from my list.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
also love "midnight rambler" and didn't vote for that either. don't regret it though.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
i have to admit that i've been soured on "Play With Fire" partly by the absolutely horrible interpolation of it on a Lil Wayne song a few years ago
― some dude, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
IMHO, it was poorly used in The Darjeeling Limited too.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
so far most disappointed about "live with me" being so low.
and there's a score of harebrained childrenthey're all locked in the nurserythey got earphone heads they got dirty necksthey're so 20th century
― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
haha are we done with the Wes Anderson portion of the thread yet?
― some dude, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
I'm on Lester Bangs' side re Altamont: Jagger, as rogermexico reminded us, looked like a charlatan while Keith was the only one who met force with force (i.e. we're not playing anymore until you guys CUT IT OUT).
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
also: Jagger expressing sympathy for the victims was as inauthentic as Madonna crying at her mom's grave in Truth or Dare. Give these guys masks and they'll tell the truth every fucking time.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
also: "Play With Fire" yay!
Lol I haven't seen Darjeeling Limited
Ftr I'm still furious w myself for neglecting Jigsaw Puzzle
― Year of the RMDE (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
"Street Fighting Man" was in Mr. Fox! xpsts
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
Charlie's reaction here to HA bullshit strikes me as so human, so sad, and so grown-up: http://www.nme.com/nme-video/youtube/id/a4OUEZSg8xY/search/off
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
I like thinking that Play With Fire is like a Part 2 of Heart of Stone, where the false bravado has given way to a kind of menace.I think a lot, lol.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Play with Fire sounds to me the template for Love, another Wes A fave.
― Year of the RMDE (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
ENOUGH WITH WES ANDERSON
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
:)
my favorite Play With Fire interpolation:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTR-7LU3Fc
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
and hey all their pld blues heroes keep playing guitar with arthritic fingers until the day they drop dead, why not the Stones too?
Yeah, I seem to recall an interview with Mick where he made exactly this point. I couldn't fault the logic, and a lot of my disdain for old rock musicians, especially British Invasion bands, dropped away at that point. There are more worthy targets.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link