"The Wire" on HBO

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nicely done, pete!

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

great interview, thanks.

i find his real guy stance a little off-putting, like i'm the one who shows people what they need to see, that's why they hate me so. but i guess that's how he motivates himself to make such delightful things. or at least the wire is delightfull. which of his books is good?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks. I think Drama City is his best, with Hell to Pay a close second. But I never regret anything I read of his: Shoedog, Shame the Devil, Soul Circus, Right as Rain, Hard Revolution, and The Sweet Forever so far. He got me into devouring fiction again. I like the ones set in the present day best--more immediate, less explanatory--but they all have a naturalism in the talk and in the characters that sucks you in.

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

nice one. didn't know that about slim charles being in backyard, he is def. one of the best new characters in season 3

― lmaoborghini (eman), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

and shot twice on stage - holy shit

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link

soooooooooo who wants spoilers?

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

this is the only time i will ever have something cool before anyone else.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Give us, just, like, a LITTLE one. Not like, who dies, or anything. Just a taste.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm feeling v conflicted

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 20 July 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

how many episodes in til mcnulty is demoted to crossing guard?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

season 3 dvd is out next tuesday ˚_˚

pls tell me they kill off carcetti in 1st ep. of season 4, that guy sux

― Lmaoborghini (eman), Friday, 4 August 2006 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link

ziggy sucked at first too though

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 4 August 2006 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I picked up Samaritan on the suggestion of y'all and couldn't stop reading. The scenes with kids are so good in that, and I'm hoping that bodes well for Season 4...

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Friday, 4 August 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Carcetti!

By the way, I bought the DVD for the first two seasons of Homicide, and so many things in it remind me of The Wire. The Baltimore-specific language, the themes relating to ethnicity, the multi-episode case arcs,... it's just terrific. I remember liking the show, but I like it much more the second time around. If you're hankering for more Wire, it's a great salve.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

HBO's press release for season for s4, courtesy Fat Harry.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=24077

Not too spoilery, though, at least until you get about halfway in, and they start summarizing the first four episodes. I stopped reading when I saw that.

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 5 August 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i read the summaries, it doesn't really give that much away, just the general outline. and it's only the first 3 episodes

i love this cover:

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000FTCLSU.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V64948018_.jpg

― Lmaoborghini (eman), Saturday, 5 August 2006 02:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I’ve become obsessed with how tightly written this show is. I love how each an every episode builds on another like a piece of architecture. Everything matters in The Wire, even the seemingly insignificant. In the first Season Two episode, McNulty and his partner tow a stalled party boat into Baltimore harbor. Ironically, the boat is named “Capital Gains.” With those carefully chosen words the writers have cleverly outlined the main themes of season two - how money, economic dislocation, and politics affect everyday life. The pay-off comes later in Sobotka’s bitter speech; “We used to build shit in the country. Make shit. Now all we do is take money out of each other pockets.” Such scathing critiques of early 21st century capitalism are something that no other television program has the skill or wit to do nowadays. Without a doubt, The Wire is the most politically astute show on American television,

― Ice Cream Electric (Ice Cream Electric), Sunday, 6 August 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

...

(okay, one spoiler: you will see omar go out to buy cereal in his pajamas.)

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 6 August 2006 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

(from Royal Farms®)

― =[[ (eman), Sunday, 6 August 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

royal farms!! where one is curiously unable to buy beer??

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 August 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, but will Omar buy crabcakes in his underwear?

― Ice Cream Electric (Ice Cream Electric), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Article about the Wire. It contains mild spoilers and a handy introduction to what's what in season 4.

http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/sepinwall/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1154887068280380.xml&coll=1&thispage=1

― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

HBO boss Chris Albrecht suggested that renewal for a fifth and final season -- which Simon had in mind when he left certain season four story threads unresolved -- will depend largely on critical reaction to the new episodes

wait, season 4 might be the last, wtf?

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i thought season 4 was definitely the last one, already determined as such. the idea of a season 5 has me psyched tho!

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 7 August 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I think every show on HBO should be considering itself on its last legs the way they're giving the chop over there. The good news for the Wire is that it wins awards (though not Emmys) and it's also quite cheap to make compared to most other HBO hour-longs.

It was originally conceived as a five season show, so I hope it works out.

― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Monday, 7 August 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

David Simon Interview (with minor spoilers)

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw this for the first time the other night. It was terrible!

― Danny Aioli (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Start from the beginning. With this show, even more than most other serials it is the ONLY way.

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Plot convolutions aside, it was just packed with bad acting. Sub-Efrem-Zimbalist-Jr. at best.

― Danny Aioli (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought the show was pretty bad for the first five or six episodes of Season 1, and then I changed my mind.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

> bad acting

We're just not going to agree on this.

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Charlie Brooker did a nice segment on how amazing the Wire is on Screen Wipe this evening. Say what you will about that man, but he's always tried to spread the word on the show.

― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Thursday, 17 August 2006 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i walked 29 blocks to buy the season 3 dvd's tonight and they didn't have them >:-{

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

oh i also know who does way down in teh hole this year but i think if i reveal it i get fired

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

royal farms!! where one is curiously unable to buy beer??

-- Euai Kapaui (tracerhan...) (webmail), August 6th, 2006 11:30 AM. (tracerhand)

i know of at least one that sells beer but locks it at midnight (and sundays of course)

xpost - simon reveals it in that interview i thought. local choir kids?

― =[[ (eman), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

oh did he? haha we got scooped

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to take credit for that, btw. About a year ago - maybe longer - I was posting on television without pity's The Wire thread and suggested a children's chorus could do a great version of the theme song, plus it would fit in nicely with the education motif. I've heard they troll interforums for feedback, so...

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Q: What about "Way Down In The Hole" for season 4? Did you get someone to newly-record the song or did you pick a previously-recorded version? [Glen in Pennsylvania]
A: In keeping with the theme of the season, we sought out voices of middle-school-aged students from Baltimore. Rather than seek out a particular recording artist this year, we tried for the essential voice of our adolescent characters.
Beyond the musical choice, I think it works emotionally.
Specifically, our theme was arranged and produced by Doreen Vail, Maurette Brown-Clark and J.B. Wilkins. The young voices featured are those of Ivan Ashford, Markel Steele, Cameron Brown, Tariq Al-Sabir and Avery Bargasse. The musicians are Ronald Lindsey and Thomas Crosson. Mike Potter engineered the session.

All of the boys are from Baltimore and Tony Small, who directs a boys choir locally, found them for us.

― =[[ (eman), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i missed season 3 first time around, have been catching the reruns before deadwood but last night impatience took me over so i watched the final two on-demand (where if i'm not mistaken you'll be able to watch the new episodes starting the monday before the premiere - is this right?): omg so awesome. what's everyone's take on carcetti? btw his consultant is incredibly hot, mcnulty was never served more poorly by his principles.

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

scooped by a aol member in a wire beef!

― =[[ (eman), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

(where if i'm not mistaken you'll be able to watch the new episodes starting the monday before the premiere - is this right?)

yup. now whats the deal with on-demand? specifically how much is it?

― =[[ (eman), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought it was free with digi cable (provided you already gots hbo)

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

so its free w/ comcast?? oh shit! i dont have it but i know someone that does

― =[[ (eman), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought it was! i havent had cable for a while

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah it's free w/ digital cable or whatever. i can get why they don't have every sopranos/sex&thecity/curb etc up there all the time but i wish they'd put/keep larry sanders on there since it's not really on dvd.

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

wot no arli$$

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

haha my dad always bizarrely brings up arli$$ immediately whenever talk turns to 'great hbo shows' the same way he always brings up the doobie brothers whenever talk turns to the rnr hall of fame (dude has a very strong point here) or 'rock legends' or top 100 whatever of rock bs. doobies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arli$$ obv.

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:15 (seventeen years ago) link

is DREAM ON on dvd yet?

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

5 dvd set of just rich hall's sniglets segments from not neccessarily the news due in october

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm tempted to see if fraggle rock is on dvd but i know that in five hours i'm gonna come home drunk and end up throwing that shit in my netflix queue.

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

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