I kind of swallow the g a lil' like I'm saying 'go'
i really don't understand how you pronounce 'go'!
― ledge, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
for me its not so much the pronunciation that is so damning, its the way he bailed so quickly
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
I was just trying to point out that there's a difference between the pronunciation of 'g' and 'gg' - like the diff between tiger and trigger. maybe other people don't do that but I do. like if you purposely emphasized the two syllables in trigger you'd go trig-ger whereas in tiger you'd go ti-ger.
― dayo, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
what
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
do people usually make Freudian slips in places where they make no grammatical sense? I mean let's say he actually did say "anti-war government n!@##%$@#$!", what would that even mean?
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
on the racism thread, you are with frogsjust wanna help you walk this one back a little man
just wanna help you walk this one back a little man
*furiously F5's EXCELSIOR thread*
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
late reports clarify that rick perry's family hunting grounds were actually named 'negotiatorhead'
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
I would split trigger as tri-ger, as I'm pretty sure would all the dictionaries. Double consonants are not separable.
― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
well okay! I concede the point.
― dayo, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
I just want to point out that the IPA symbol for the g in both of these words is exactly the same. Given that IPA is a universal phoneatic representation of how to pronounce words, that probably explains why no one is getting what you are talking about.
Also, the two syllables of "trigger" are "trigg-" and "-er".
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
dayo srs. q do you speak mandarin or cantonese regularly? wonder if syllabic rules might have you thinking about ~words~ different
meanwhile for Santorum's veep I nominate Michael Richards
― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
Double consonants are not separable.]
I was going to comment about nu and gamma assimilating into a single gamma in Latin but I went to check my thinking which led me to a book The Mystery of the Serpent Mound which is about some bizarre new age alphabet theories around some geological formation and is published by Frog Books so yknow wheels w/in wheels everybody
― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
so wait, did santorum call Obama a horse?
― pplains, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
Does "anti-war government negotiator" makes sense in context?
I assume he didn't mean to come out with a racist slur either but it's a stretch.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
that doesn't make much sense either but as least there's a coherent phrase there to mangle
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
It's not a phrase Google would have returned a single result for prior to this morning. I can only assume he lost his train of thought and was mixing his points up - "anti-war, big government, negotiate with enemies" - and just mashed it into one thing.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
"anti-war" doesn't make sense
― Oat Drink (crüt), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
right, I think he just realized he wasn't making sense at the worst possible time
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
i'm from the american south. saying "negotiator" as "nigosheeatuh" is hardly a stretch.and yeah, what sharivari said. dude is not well known for clarity of speech or thought
― 1 week to "Charles Dingus" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
i'm with frogs on the this one; santorum has a long history of saying the dumbest possible thing but i really doubt he meant to throw out a racial slur during a campaign rally.
i doubt that he consciously meant to say the n-word, but i'm not certain he didn't just sort of slip into it in the heat of the rhetorical moment, at least in his own mind. like i don't think he got tripped up by the phonetic similarity of one word to the other. he got tripped up by what he was thinking. plus it sounds lot more like "nig" than "neg". the difference isn't in the pronunciation of the 'g', but of the vowel.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
plus it sounds lot more like "nig" than "neg"
i'd say "negate" with a "nig". but "negative" with a "neg". "negotiate" can go either way.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw, philly accent (of which i am proud owner), i pronounce 'negotiator' as 'ni-go-shi-ate-er.'
― Mordy, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
like i pronounce the first syllable of the n-word and the first syllable of negotiator the exact same way
― Mordy, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
^ negoti-ist
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
/nɪˈgoʊʃiˌeɪt/
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
i have no idea what he meant to say and honestly i'd like to think the worst of him (i have hated him for a very long time) so it's very easy for me to believe that he was about to say the n-word. but i thought some intimate info about philly speech patterns might be relevant to the discussion
― Mordy, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of feel that when you have so much stuff to throw at Santorum that is true and overt and clear, why try to slam him with something ambiguous?
― emil.y, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
exactly. let's hoist the dude by his overt bullshit not "i bet he's a secret racist"
― 1 week to "Charles Dingus" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
hmmm
butI dont get is why he dropped the word midphoneme if he was just trying to say "negotiate"?
― what is a dog-robber? (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
because he is an idiot?
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, Occam's Razor etc
^
― 1 week to "Charles Dingus" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
the thing that's funny is, these guys have been pushing so much "secret Muslim!" garbage for so long & have crawled so far down the Look At It Upside Down It's A Pyramid ZOMG Masons!!! tunnel that something like this is sorta perfect. Own medicine imo
― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
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not at this point in my life but I did growing up!
I mean I never learned formal rules about pronunciation - I'm just trying to figure out what word santorum was trying to say by running it through my head. I will say that I probably tend to emphasize vowel sounds more than consonant sounds in general though.
― dayo, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
i'm ok just assuming he said the slur no matter what because there is a 100% chance he uses it in private regularly, come on now.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
I can totally get behind this viewpoint
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, not so much for me for reasons touched on in the batshit right-wing cartoon thread:
He rolls out another classic in his defence of the Sandra Fluke cartoon:it struck me as deliciously ironic that many of the tolerant, compassionate liberals who took issue with my supposedly portraying Miss Fluke as a “slut” and “prostitute”, and with my lack of civility, did so by calling me every vulgar name in the book and making death threats against me― And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:09 AM (Yesterday) this strain of 'you're no better than me' rhetoric is so flaccid and lazy and gross, the worst type of trolling imho― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:00 PM (Yesterday)
this strain of 'you're no better than me' rhetoric is so flaccid and lazy and gross, the worst type of trolling imho― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:00 PM (Yesterday)
― 1 week to "Charles Dingus" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
that argument has nothing to do with the "what goes around comes around" point aero is making...?
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
"serves you right" is a cousin to "you're no better than me" imo
― 1 week to "Charles Dingus" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
one is "allowing sexism when you don't like your opponent"; it's loathsome. the other is like some guy at a party sells you .5 g & it turns out to be talcum powder but then you get to sell it back to him at a profit + he dies so fuck that guy
― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
damn, you roll hard like that huh
― 1 week to "Charles Dingus" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
um... yeah i don't know. i'm kinda with forks on this one, it's not worth it
― Nhex, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
that's fine, more schadenfreude for the rest of us
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
extraordinary claims of loathesome stupidity demand extraordinary proof.
it's rick santorum
qed isnt that enough?
― low-rise concentration camps (Hunt3r), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrzjj4pBeL1qg5h33o1_500.gif
― ♆ (gr8080), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
gonna say not racist
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
idgi
never really played goldeneye either.
― pplains, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
the joke is his haircut has a weird line in the front
― the late great, Friday, 6 April 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
it's really more of an arc than a line
― del griffith, Friday, 6 April 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
black friend tells me black ppl love making fun of other black ppl's hairlines, so prob not racist
― ♆ (gr8080), Friday, 6 April 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link