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"That I Do" seems like the least memorable of these songs. I am really taken with "Arch & Point" right now.

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:39 (twelve years ago) link

The tryhardness of the Art Dealer Chic concept really has no bearing on the quality of these songs whatsoever. Miguel has quite simply transcended his pretensions, whatever they may be.

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:41 (twelve years ago) link

"that i do" is really busy-sounding but it's totally great to listen to while you're like walking around somewhere

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago) link

what does he even think is so chic about art dealers, idgi

r|t|c, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

it's a signifier of new wealth innit

dayo, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not even so sure he doesn't mean "art dealer chick" tbh

some dude, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

art dealer sheik

johnny crunch, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

i still think the last album is just "sure thing" + varying degrees of okay-ness and i think of him as someone who can turn well-worn tricks into magic rather than blow my mind with new tricks

I think the package itself is something new. What sets Miguel apart from every popular R&B singer is he attempts something new, different or just a little bizarre with literally every track. Most singers take some risks, of course, but for him they're the foundation of what he does. He's really defined by his restlessness.

Evan R, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

what are these new, different and bizarre things? assuming you don't mean the art dealer shtick.

what i loved about "sure thing", and what i love about miguel when i do love him, is that he does songs that you can imagine anyone doing, but no one pulling off quite like him.

lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to "Adorn" and "Gravity" again just now and I realized my love for "Adorn" is greater because I prefer Marvin Gaye homage over Bilal homage.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

what i love about miguel when i do love him, is that he does songs that you can imagine anyone doing, but no one pulling off quite like him.

I really can't imagine a Trey Songz or a Chris Brown doing "Adorn" or "Arch N Point" or even "Gravity." Miguel owns his aesthetic in a way those singers don't.

Evan R, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but what do you think his aesthetic is? specifically? i can certainly hear trey songz doing "arch & point". bobby valentino too. omarion's "forgot about love" was something i tended to file next to miguel too.

lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

In a word, "exotic," maybe. Synths that are a little more warped or muffled than you typically hear; tempos that are just a little bit off; song structures that are a little more tightly knotted than the norm (he packs five minutes worth of song into three); guitars and riffs that are strikingly loud. He's not re-writing the book every time, but he's always tweaking it.

Evan R, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

And, come on, there's nothing in Bobby Valentino's catalog remotely like "Arch N Point." Just on blunt, first-impression sonics alone, you really can't hear the difference between Miguel and boilerplate Bobby?

Evan R, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

dog what are you even

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

"rearview (ridin')"? that sounds more out-there than anything miguel's done. though all of the things you describe are actually the things i dislike about the art dealer songs and had previously attributed to bad mastering or whatever - the rhythms don't always fit the songs, some of the synths make me feel queasy and elements that are too loud just sound like ass.

lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Just listened to these after mostly ignoring this guy (thought "quickie" was gross), and they're indeed pretty terrific. Great production, great singing.

"Broads" is kinda cute if it's meant to be a joke (which I think it is) but if not its pretty repulsive.

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

i can't wait to get my whole fucking team on

dayo, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zLh5eR7wAo

o_O

The Reverend, Saturday, 14 April 2012 07:57 (twelve years ago) link

so no vol 3 today, eh?

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

ha i just checked the site an hour ago and saw there was only a 'coming soon' page for it

✧✧✧✧✧✧@are.forever (some dude), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

I'm always amazed when shit like this actually does come out on time

Evan R, Friday, 27 April 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

I'm a bigger stan for "Arch & Point" than for "Sure Thing" at this point.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

i'd like to get angry about this sorta thing but i have no leg to stand on when it comes to doing things on time, so...

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

i'm sure it's more a matter of some intern hitting 'publish' than miggy in the studio until the wee hours last night trying to get THREE WHOLE SONGS tracked and mixed in time

✧✧✧✧✧✧@are.forever (some dude), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

he wanted to make those tracks were sure things

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

CLINK

✧✧✧✧✧✧@are.forever (some dude), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

if anything can console me, it's nabisco writing about vols 1 & 2

http://pitchfork.com/features/why-we-fight/8821-why-we-fight/

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

also i think i dig "quickie" more than "sure thing" now... the production on quickie is so great. the way those spindly guitar lines sorta slowly float away, the liveness of the drums. it's all very post-coital.

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

i pretty much shake my first at each and every notion that anything is better than "sure thing" but "quickie" is pretty great, yeah

✧✧✧✧✧✧@are.forever (some dude), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

that whole album, man. "hard way" is my fav sleeper cut

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

thx for the nabs link, i'll have to remember to read that

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

err i meant "teach me". "hard way" is good too tho

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

He said on his twitter vol 3 is coming later today

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

oh dope

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

We're discussing the release of this thing like we're waiting for Papa John's to deliver that large pie.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

going online like "why they gon make that miguel tape?"

some dude, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

miguel just seems very cool & nice!

https://twitter.com/#!/MiguelUnlimited/status/195932768054673408

J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

abebe chic

some dude, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

what is he referring to?

bnw, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/features/why-we-fight/8821-why-we-fight/

i have been on the internet too much today

rob, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.zshare.ma/4jtllbl1rnn9

tundra, Saturday, 28 April 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link

^ vol3 if it wasnt clear

tundra, Saturday, 28 April 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link

thank you!

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

thanks!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

digging it

dayo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

yea 'party life' is p good. feel like it'd serve for some p killer remixes

johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

"ooh ahh" is old tho :(

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

Weakest of the three, though that's not really an insult

Evan R, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link


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