WHAT A DRAG IT IS GETTING POLLED – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones (Extended deadline: April 1st)

It's the old British-coding-as-gay-and-vice-versa thing again then xps? I wonder how that came about, it wasn't invented by Mick was it? Pretty sure it wouldn't've been high in our armoury of self-image post WWII, I'm guessing.

well Mick copped it from Little Richard sooooo

Jagger talks about it quite a bit in the Rolling Stone interview that Alfred linked to upthread. Worth a read.

I hadn't considered until Jagger pointed it out that Elvis has a certain feminine quality to him.

Elvis was "pretty"

Lovely lips

harping back to "child of the moon", there's something detached about it, and mysterious... it's dreamy enough to get lost in, with those loose, stretched vocal harmonies that are in no hurry to get anywhere, yet somehow stands as an immaculately crafted rock song with hook by way of sublime chord change.

― charlie h, Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Child of the Moon was a deliberate attempt to court the US market--and Mick described it as having a "California" sound, which makes sense with your description

― Iago Galdston, Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:29 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, that's so strange to me, cuz "california" is the last association i'd make. it reminds me strongly of the early velvet underground, especially "all tomorrow's parties" and even "venus in furs" to some extent. though it does work as a pop song, it has a weird, glassy-eyed inertness and vacancy that only amplify its allure. hell, it's practically a drone. so spooky.

yeah, i find it weird that mick thought this could be a hit...can't remember what was on the b-side, but it was one of their monster hits I think...

jumping jack flash iirc

band of susans used to do a cover of it emphasising its droneyness

Listening to Brussels Affair (thanks to Tarfumes/Tylerw for recommendation) --- the Keys solo in "Can't Always Get What You Want" is so gorgeous, I wish it was on the original. My god.

also Keith doing 'Happy' made me very. Kinda feel like I should've rethought about voting for it. idk.

yeah contenderizer, i definitely hear some VU sound-wise. both "child" and a song like "all tomorrow's parties" channel something exotic, stoned and distant. lyrically and thematically, i can see how the California thing ties in. i mean, underlying VU's work was a certain street-swagger, self-awareness and poise, which gave even their most abstract songs a defined edge. the Stones obviously exhibited this too in a bunch of their songs, but there's something naive and idealistic about "child of the moon", which i find pretty charming. what is kind of surprising is that it was a calculated move on their part, because even if it was just a one-off of sorts, it sounds natural and inspired.

I've never really gotten all the way into the Stones like rock/pop fanatics are supposed to, so beyond the singles I mostly know Exile, Aftermath, Sticky Fingers and to a somewhat lesser extent Beggars & Let it Bleed. All terrific records of course, and Emotional Rescue was a pleasant Spotify surprise a couple weeks back, but I can't imagine omitting more than half a dozen of the tracks previously compiled on Hot Rocks, which I've loved to pieces since high school. Fucking dilettante, I know. But I wanna vote in this, so I guess I'll be that guy.

before you do vote, at least consider listening to some of the less well-known stuff posted itt. promise you won't regret it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j24CZ66q4PQ

an all HOT ROCKS ballot would be frighteningly reasonable. but which of the 21 tracks would you cut?

good question. looking at the tracklist now, i'd probably cut "honky tonk woman". maybe "get off of my cloud".

An all More Hot Rocks ballot would be fine challops.

once you made the necessary cut/s, how would you ORDER said Hot Rocks tracks, that is the question

xpost suddenly reconsidering on ethical grounds whether to allow any ABKCO tracks on my ballot

Midnight Rambler and Can't Always Get would be easy cuts from a Hot Rocks ballot. Cutting eight songs from More Hot Rocks would be tougher.

I voted Connection (though not #1)

Also, as Xgau sez, Hot Rocks is for the people, More Hot Rocks is for specialists.

I'm a special people

I hope "19th Nervous Breakdown" gets serious love in this.

specialists, like assassins?

Late voters! Love songs that work on multiple levels? Love Keith Richards's voice? Like humor that's kind of serious? Please consider:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1OAkWGUMKY

looking at the tracklist now, i'd probably cut "honky tonk woman". maybe "get off of my cloud".

>>>>>>:[

"wear white..."

yeah, that's my favorite bit. song bugs me otherwise.

I think the song is kind of creepy, and I like my Stones kinda creepy, to be honest.

How many ballots submitted so far? On the fence, really need to work next week (and not follow the results obsessively ...)

If you haven't voted yet, then we're one short.

Hah

wmc otm

don't be a baby, vote today!

Considering that there is a lot of love for certain songs I don't like very much I really should

eesh i have to vote i guess.

Loading up Spotify now, will put in some quality time and see where I end up.

HELL YEAH YOU BETTER VOTE TYLER WTF

I haven't voted.

is the deadline still today?

ah i see, no

you still got two whole glorious stones-drunken days

Stones

I just love saying that, it's like the coolest rock & roll word ever

fuckin stones, man

just sent in my ballot!

:D

Currently no threat to the Bowie record unless the lurkers show up in droves. Get those ballots in!

so excited for the results thread

They're a band where I think no matter how the results shake out, I'll enjoy the hell out of the process.

GAME OF STONES

haha