oh cool. that's a nice little anecdote that i wasn't aware of. and yeah, it does make a lot of sense :)
― charlie h, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
to get back to "Bitch" -- this is what the Stooges would sound like if they had Charlie Watts on drums. Such a lethal groove. and yes, the stones are super-british to my american ears.
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
yeah totally british. that campy fey androgyne thing - American white guys didn't do that very much
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
til the NY Dolls, who basically got it from the Stones. VU had it a bit too, i suppose, in a different kinda way.
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://30.media.tumblr.com/CmEy6UFOclxse5spjBE2dSZ9o1_500.jpg
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
never been able to get my head around how Bill does that with his legs
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
"lethal drumming" otmrelentless without being too overbearing/showboaty too
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
It's the old British-coding-as-gay-and-vice-versa thing again then xps? I wonder how that came about, it wasn't invented by Mick was it? Pretty sure it wouldn't've been high in our armoury of self-image post WWII, I'm guessing.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
well Mick copped it from Little Richard sooooo
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
Jagger talks about it quite a bit in the Rolling Stone interview that Alfred linked to upthread. Worth a read.
I hadn't considered until Jagger pointed it out that Elvis has a certain feminine quality to him.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
Elvis was "pretty"
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
Lovely lips
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
harping back to "child of the moon", there's something detached about it, and mysterious... it's dreamy enough to get lost in, with those loose, stretched vocal harmonies that are in no hurry to get anywhere, yet somehow stands as an immaculately crafted rock song with hook by way of sublime chord change.
― charlie h, Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Child of the Moon was a deliberate attempt to court the US market--and Mick described it as having a "California" sound, which makes sense with your description
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:29 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, that's so strange to me, cuz "california" is the last association i'd make. it reminds me strongly of the early velvet underground, especially "all tomorrow's parties" and even "venus in furs" to some extent. though it does work as a pop song, it has a weird, glassy-eyed inertness and vacancy that only amplify its allure. hell, it's practically a drone. so spooky.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i find it weird that mick thought this could be a hit...can't remember what was on the b-side, but it was one of their monster hits I think...
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
jumping jack flash iirc
band of susans used to do a cover of it emphasising its droneyness
― Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
Listening to Brussels Affair (thanks to Tarfumes/Tylerw for recommendation) --- the Keys solo in "Can't Always Get What You Want" is so gorgeous, I wish it was on the original. My god.
also Keith doing 'Happy' made me very. Kinda feel like I should've rethought about voting for it. idk.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah contenderizer, i definitely hear some VU sound-wise. both "child" and a song like "all tomorrow's parties" channel something exotic, stoned and distant. lyrically and thematically, i can see how the California thing ties in. i mean, underlying VU's work was a certain street-swagger, self-awareness and poise, which gave even their most abstract songs a defined edge. the Stones obviously exhibited this too in a bunch of their songs, but there's something naive and idealistic about "child of the moon", which i find pretty charming. what is kind of surprising is that it was a calculated move on their part, because even if it was just a one-off of sorts, it sounds natural and inspired.
― charlie h, Friday, 30 March 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
I've never really gotten all the way into the Stones like rock/pop fanatics are supposed to, so beyond the singles I mostly know Exile, Aftermath, Sticky Fingers and to a somewhat lesser extent Beggars & Let it Bleed. All terrific records of course, and Emotional Rescue was a pleasant Spotify surprise a couple weeks back, but I can't imagine omitting more than half a dozen of the tracks previously compiled on Hot Rocks, which I've loved to pieces since high school. Fucking dilettante, I know. But I wanna vote in this, so I guess I'll be that guy.
― do dat do dat do do dat dat dat (thewufs), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
before you do vote, at least consider listening to some of the less well-known stuff posted itt. promise you won't regret it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j24CZ66q4PQ
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
an all HOT ROCKS ballot would be frighteningly reasonable. but which of the 21 tracks would you cut?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
good question. looking at the tracklist now, i'd probably cut "honky tonk woman". maybe "get off of my cloud".
― charlie h, Friday, 30 March 2012 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
An all More Hot Rocks ballot would be fine challops.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
once you made the necessary cut/s, how would you ORDER said Hot Rocks tracks, that is the question
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
xpost suddenly reconsidering on ethical grounds whether to allow any ABKCO tracks on my ballot
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
Midnight Rambler and Can't Always Get would be easy cuts from a Hot Rocks ballot. Cutting eight songs from More Hot Rocks would be tougher.
― Whiney Houson (WmC), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
I voted Connection (though not #1)
― broom air, Friday, 30 March 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
Also, as Xgau sez, Hot Rocks is for the people, More Hot Rocks is for specialists.
I'm a special people
― Whiney Houson (WmC), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
I hope "19th Nervous Breakdown" gets serious love in this.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
specialists, like assassins?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:54 (twelve years ago) link
Late voters! Love songs that work on multiple levels? Love Keith Richards's voice? Like humor that's kind of serious? Please consider:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1OAkWGUMKY
― Three Word Username, Friday, 30 March 2012 06:34 (twelve years ago) link
looking at the tracklist now, i'd probably cut "honky tonk woman". maybe "get off of my cloud".
>>>>>>:[
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 06:36 (twelve years ago) link
"wear white..."
― Mark G, Friday, 30 March 2012 06:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that's my favorite bit. song bugs me otherwise.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 06:43 (twelve years ago) link
I think the song is kind of creepy, and I like my Stones kinda creepy, to be honest.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 30 March 2012 07:30 (twelve years ago) link
How many ballots submitted so far? On the fence, really need to work next week (and not follow the results obsessively ...)
― grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
If you haven't voted yet, then we're one short.
― Whiney Houson (WmC), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Hah
― grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
wmc otm
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
don't be a baby, vote today!
Considering that there is a lot of love for certain songs I don't like very much I really should
― grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
eesh i have to vote i guess.
― tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
Loading up Spotify now, will put in some quality time and see where I end up.
― grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
HELL YEAH YOU BETTER VOTE TYLER WTF
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't voted.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
is the deadline still today?
― Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
ah i see, no
you still got two whole glorious stones-drunken days
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
Stones
― Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
I just love saying that, it's like the coolest rock & roll word ever
― Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link