WHAT A DRAG IT IS GETTING POLLED – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones (Extended deadline: April 1st)

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I'm definitely tired of "Satisfaction," but I was never all that nutso about the song in the first place. I used to think I was sick of "Miss You," but then some friends of mine came around at twelve with some Puerto Rican girls that, evidently, were just dying to meet me. They brought a case of wine and we messed and fooled around, you know, like we used to.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

"Emotional Rescue" is my least favorite single for sure, despite loving the album to bits. "Undercover of the Night" is pretty damn cynical and makes a good case for the post-'72 naysayers.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

i will probably be the only voter for "love is strong," won't i

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't revisited Undercover of the Night on my listen-through yet, but I'll be amazed if it doesn't sail way up my ballot.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

And stuff like Start Me Up, it just sounds like Superbowls and stadiums to me. There's sort of a, I dunno, smaller feel to the old stuff. That's not the right word, but it'll do.

it does sound that way at this point, yeah. it didn't then, at least not to me, and so i still dig it, despite the yucky associations. did cut it early and without regret tho.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

have never grown tired of "satisfaction" or "paint it black". "you can't always get what you want", however, has wilted considerably.

and, yeah, "she's so cold" is great. the best stuff off black and blue, some girls, emotional rescue, tattoo you and undercover would make a hell of a compilation.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

The totally bazonkers International Harvester version of "Satisfaction" saved it for me -- otherwise, that.

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

listened to aftermath this morning. might vote for every song on there.

tylerw, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

Eight post-'72 tracks on my ballot and only three pre-Beggars Banquet. Not that I don't love early Stones too!

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

The one Tattoo You track i did keep was "Slave", as I think I mentioned earlier. I also kept "Summer Romance" off Emotional Rescue, mostly cuz i love the fucked-up punk rock outtake version I posted upthread, easily the silliest and most perverse choice on my ballot. Together those two songs suggest something to me...

Duderock Essentials #19: The "I'm Gonna Leave You, Woman" / "You Don't Own Me, Woman" Song.

The children of "Milkcow Blues", I suppose. A lot of bands hit this note occasionally (see every emo and frat rock band ever to exist), but the Stones are kind of unique in having devoted seemingly half their career to it. I think of these as permission-granting songs, as they seem constructed to draw out and validate male sexual angst, feelings of wrath and/or powerlessness. Such songs encourage fantasies of straying, even the corresponding action only extends to getting drunk with the boys and talking shit. They also give guys in relationships a bonding point with the recently dumped and the perpetually unhitched. At their worst, they're "that bitch" songs. At their best, well, they're still "that bitch" songs, but, uh, good ones.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

make that "Such songs encourage fantasies of straying, even if the corresponding action only extends to..."

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

Tired of, easily cut: "Honky Tonk Women" and especially "Sympathy for the Devil"

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Hohoho, 'Petrol Blues' - what the hell is this track?!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

I'll never tire of Honky Tonk Women, Brown Sugar, or Jumpin' Jack Flash...on the other hand, I can't listen to Sympathy for the Devil, just too played out.

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

Sent it in. My oldest song was from 1966 (and the last song I cut from my top 20 was 1964); the newest was finished in 2010 (so you can guess what that was). There's more godawful crap after Mick Taylor quit, but the highlights are still very damn high. Looking forward to the results.

Three Word Username, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

Not that anyone cared, but I had the wrong band, same family -- it's this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SOBAaVmjtU&feature=related

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it was going to be easy to make an initial list, and it was until I started listening to the albums again. Now I have 76 tracks to whittle down, 43 from the 60s, the rest from 1970-78. I'm sure I could add a few post-Some Girls tracks but there's no way they'll make my top 20.

Brad C., Tuesday, 27 March 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

listened to aftermath this morning. might vote for every song on there.

― tylerw, Monday, March 26, 2012 10:51 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

haha, I listened to it yesterday and had almost the exact opposite reaction, I know it's considered an unfuckwithable classic but it seemed weak to me and the misogyny is unbearable.

that said OF COURSE I'm voting "Paint It, Black", and I think "I Am Waiting" might make the cut as well.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link

btw what's the record for ballots anyway?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

I think the Bowie poll beat the Pavement one, but I forget the numbers

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie got 80.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link

The hardest one to cut for me was "The Lantern", but I only love that song in the original stereo mix and I have to play with the stereo: right channel only, so it's just Mick and Keith, through the verses and full stereo only on the instrumental bridge. It turns from a bluesy honkytonk throwaway into something super creepy and awesome. Try it some time! (NB: I can't find that old stereo mix online.)

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

I think all the SatMaj tracks made my final ballot (yes, even that one)

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 09:03 (twelve years ago) link

i've finalised my top 20, but have not yet ordered them. i didn't really have much of a shortlist as i tried to be very particular and precise about which tracks made it so far as the drawing board, so just had to cull a couple in the end. pretty happy with the songs i came up with, though a couple of albums which i really enjoy either have very minimal representation or don't get a nod at all. hard to really strike a great deal of balance when the peaks of Beggar's through Exile are so incredibly high.

charlie h, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link

Sent!

i will probably be the only voter for "love is strong," won't i

― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, March 26, 2012 12:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

No.

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

so I'm getting the impression that I should own Satanic Majesties....

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

the misogyny is unbearable
ha, i did take note of this, and it is indeed filthy with woman-loathing, but i thought that aspect was, ummm, revealing in some interesting way? i'm sure someone has written a boring thesis on it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

i might vote for this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiydOyjFkPM
misogyny-free zone!

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

SO CONFUSING

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowers_%28The_Rolling_Stones_album%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones,_Now!

I think their US/UK track shufflings are even worse than the Beatles records.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

garg, wth?

anyway, there is a page for that album. you just can't link to it.

...

oh, it's the comma. this works:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_Now!

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

FUCK THE WORLD

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

Rolling Stones early releases definitely as confusing/wtf as the AC/DC shuffles.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

The vote splitting (if any) in the album poll will be interesting.

Whiney Houson (WmC), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

Many xposts, but in defense of Sympathy for the Devil it has one of their greatest-ever grooves. Which is saying something, since groove is pretty much their greatest weapon. Or at least their least appreciated/articulated.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

wait are unranked ballots not an option? dear lord.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

percussion on Sympathy is the thing that keeps me coming back

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

wait are unranked ballots not an option? dear lord.

yeah, fucking brutal

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

Plus, lyrics that they had taken time over and pointed towards an idea.

Didn't do much of that post 1974 or so..

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

what's the point of unranked ballots?

BUY THE TICKET, TAKE THE RIDE, MOTHERFUCKERS.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

you got to roll me the tumblin' 20-sided dice

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

i never for even a moment considered cutting sympathy for the devil. i may be many things, but i am not so crazy as hat.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

lol "crazy as hat"

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

crazy asshat

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

:/

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

percussion on Sympathy is the thing that keeps me coming back

^ this...erm, even though I cut it. But I was completely flummoxed as to how Charlie did it until I saw this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H3QcpvcIrY

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

YOU CUT IT?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

yeah don't think i'll be able to cut that one. the guitar solo! heard it a bajillion times and i still snap to attention when it kicks in.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

xp Yeah, I couldn't decide between the studio version or the Ya-Yas version. In the end, I cut both, and now no one has any glue to glue with.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

omg shirtless Mick

imma need a moment brb

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link


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