Worst ongoing plotline in the second season of Twin Peaks (SPOILERS)

Oh GOD, yeah, what the hell was the point of that again?

Kind of amazed by the turnout - didn't know so many people on here cared! Thanks for voting, everyone.

(Who voted for Harry drunkenly moping around, though?)

Sometimes I feel shame for not hating James as much as the rest of the world does.

Oh GOD, yeah, what the hell was the point of that again?

the point was that there was no point.

I am unashamed of my lack of hate for James. If James were a chick of comparable attractiveness, I bet he would be hated less.

Although the Miss Twin Peaks plot sucked, the actual scene was kind of awesome. An underrated twin peaks moment imo.

BAH I have to stop opening this thread, I get horrifying flashbacks from this show.

i thought the Miss Twin Peaks plot was hilarious

even more than what happened to coop and annie, i ALWAYS wondered if audrey horne & pete martell died in the bank explosion

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzid6gZULy1qg78udo1_500.gif

Thing is, I never hated hated James until the infamous out-of-town plotline. I was getting bored with him and Donna and Maddy, but he himself was fine and had been in some good scenes.

Also agree with this Although the Miss Twin Peaks plot sucked, the actual scene was kind of awesome. An underrated twin peaks moment imo. It definitely delivers the goods, but mannnnn all that stuff with Windom creeping on the girls, so much potential there but it never really gelled.

Mainly it just drove me up a wall that Cooper & Truman never seemed to be really seriously investigating any of that! Like, why not have keep the girls under watch or have Hawk tail them, or something? There was this weird sense late in the show that the different plotlines actually existed in parallel universes - people have mentioned how Norma seems totally oblivious to her sister being kidnapped, and I think that sort of pervades the rest of this thing. It's weird, for example, that nobody takes the slightest notice of Nadine's impossible superhuman strength. I kind of like the idea upthread that it could be explained away as a White Lodge thing, and a tighter master plot chart for the season could have had it at least getting name-dropped somewhere else. You know - - Cooper snaps his fingers, goes "Harry, you're a genius! Nadine's strange transformation, Major Briggs's experience - it all adds up."

also, that gif is amazing, wd subscribe to an all-Twin Peaks animated gif tumblr

http://twinpeaksgifs.tumblr.com/

there's this part when harold realizes they've taken laura's secret diary and he tosses his body against his orchids and shouts "NO!" that would make THE funniest gif

^^^

would also lol at face-scrape with garden tool shot

http://twinpeaksgifs.tumblr.com/

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, March 26, 2012 4:09 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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deserves to become general-purpose posting meme

yes

I remember I thought that was kind of a lame use of the dream giant in the show.

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awesome

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even more than what happened to coop and annie, i ALWAYS wondered if audrey horne & pete martell died in the bank explosion

― humba (NZA), Monday, March 26, 2012 2:54 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

of course they did

There was a fish in the detonator!

p.s. no wayyyy, they totally would have survived!

I'm watching this show for the first time, on netflix instant viewing, and am now slogging through the dregs of the second season. Up until now I think I would have gone with Nadine as worst plot line. The James thing is awful but kind of irrelevant and sidelined, like it's happening on a different show. Nadine is something that makes no sense and is in the midst of everything. And the "comedy" of the scene where she was introduced to the wrestling team was pretty much excruciating, some of James' scenes seem almost funny in comparison.
But, I also really hate Josie as Catherine's maid and everything to do with her this season. I know a lot of people hate this character and performance anyway but I think they were sort of well suited in the earlier episodes, here it is horrible all around. Like the Nadine situation, it seems to compromise/contaminate other characters. More self contained plot lines, like the love triangle and the civil war, don't seem as bad in that they don't compromise previously established characters as much.
The Windom Earle thing would, so far, be better if it didn't involve Leo Johnson.

just want to highlight this post in case anyone that's interested in the odd turns that the 2nd season takes missed it upthread:

Also, amateurist, I think you may be on to something wrt the plot fugue playing a big role in the declining viewer interest, but I think Lynch more or less abandoning the show to work on Wild at Heart (and I think some other stuff...Industrial Symphony, maybe?) played the bigger role in its demise. The two causes were probably pretty intertwined, honestly.

from reading about this in the books Lynch on Lynch and the biography Beautiful Dark, this seems to be accurate.

one pleasant paragraph in Beautiful Dark suggests that when David Lynch (as the FBI boss) tells Cooper to ditch the open collared plaid shirts and get back to the crisp white t-shirt and black suit combo, that's a not-so-subtle comment on the loss of direction of the show under the various directors and writers that took charge while he was off doing Wild at Heart

It certainly feels like it was under the control of people who didn't understand what made the show and its characters work.
Josie and Nadine were both pretty limited as characters, for different reasons,but I think they worked quite well as one note characters with little screen time. In the second season they not only become grating and annoying with the larger roles but are taken in completely different directions to which they are totally unsuited.
Even with characters like Cooper and Harry, there are moments that ring false, like poor replications.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Axyq7fH_XeY/mqdefault.jpg

otm

I have to admit the pine weasel event, and the weasel-cam shot in particular, is at least as "funny" as all the other Lucy-Andy shit.

just want to highlight this post in case anyone that's interested in the odd turns that the 2nd season takes missed it upthread:

_Also, amateurist, I think you may be on to something wrt the plot fugue playing a big role in the declining viewer interest, but I think Lynch more or less abandoning the show to work on Wild at Heart (and I think some other stuff...Industrial Symphony, maybe?) played the bigger role in its demise. The two causes were probably pretty intertwined, honestly._


from reading about this in the books Lynch on Lynch and the biography Beautiful Dark, this seems to be accurate.

I think I mentioned it before in one of these threads, but the episode with the pine weasel fundraiser is the only one I saw (in part) when the show was originally airing. It did not quite synch up with my general impression of what Twin Peaks was all about.

People in this thread keep referring to Nadine getting transformed into having super-strength in season 2 - but didn't she always have super-strength? She's bending the bars on her exercise machine in one of the first episodes.

Correct also that p

lotline is good

re-watching this as promised (on another TP thread) and I know it's almost a cliche at this point but boy does the back half of Season 2 suck. It's bad enough that it almost makes me not want to see the more recent reboot / season 3 thing (I am typically years late to these, err, events and have somehow managed to avoid spoilers).

power through! s3 as you have probably surmised even sans spoilers is a totally different beast

That's what I've heard! And I love the show so much right up until the Leland reveal, I'm willing to overlook almost anything, but man, this season is worse than I remembered. But since I do plan to spend the post-holiday pajamas-and-cocoa dead zone finally watching Season 3, I've been making it a point to re-watch Season 2 (and FWWM)

While I like lots of the second-half-of-S2 stuff (James’ Wild Ride excluded) and love the Diane Keaton episode, as far as preparing for S3 goes you can just skip to the finale and FWWM.

and The Missing Pieces of FWWM I would say

While I like lots of the second-half-of-S2 stuff (James’ Wild Ride excluded) and love the Diane Keaton episode, as far as preparing for S3 goes you can just skip to the finale and FWWM.

― insecurity bear (sic), Saturday, December 14, 2019 2:51 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

my ocd tendencies would never permit this. What's The Missing Pieces?

The parts of the FWWM screenplay that were filmed but cut from the released film; Lynch edited a sort-of-feature out of them for a DVD bonus feature.

There's also a fan edit that cuts 99% of them back into original screenplay order, which I watched on my pre-season-3 rescreen.

I’ve always told people “there’s an episode that ends with an owl flying toward the camera. Stop. Skip to the season finale.”

That said, I remember the three-episode arc with David Duchovny very fondly?!

paul I agree that the back half of season 2 has a lot of letdowns, but season 3 might be the best season of TV I’ve ever seen. it is not to be missed

I liked Denise a lot, and I remember her as redeeming the episodes she was in, though that may just be wishful thinking. My vote for worst plotline would be Cooper falling in love with Annie, just because cringe-inducing terrible dialogue is harder to suffer through when it's Coop delivering it.

That said, I remember the three-episode arc with David Duchovny very fondly?!

Also touched on wonderfully in S3.

i’m in the middle of another rewatch and every time I get to this part my skeleton leaves my body and I disassociate

james is The Worst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEn-mmFiYDs-

and OMG i want to kick Harold and his 2-cent Norman Bates impression into the fucking sun

him and james, into the sea immediately

crooner James - not terrible
James & Evelyn - absolute complete dogshit (as evidenced by OP results)

James is cool

Also that scene is one of the best bits of the entire run