pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

i may have a vested interest here but this review really bothered me:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16309-the-end-of-that/

"[L]ike so much of the record, it initially sounds plainspoken and charming until you realize absolutely nobody talks like that."

criticizing a song for not sounding like people... talk??

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

^Actually unreadable

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

xpost

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

s1ocki, you ruined my joke, joke-blocker

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

And people actually do talk like that.

beachville, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

haha that's a weird criticism

is that dude's platonic ideal of lyric writing "Popular" by Nada Surf

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

people in movies don't actually talk like people do irl

dayo, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

people don't say irl in person!

bnw, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

I have no idea about that album but I think this is a valid criticism in some form. It bothered me in Clerks b/c the whole appeal of that movie was that it was supposedly "real talk"!

people don't say irl in person!

they say "meatspace"

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

people don't say irl in person!

― bnw, Friday, March 23, 2012 1:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I am the irl of sandwiches

dayo, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

duke of irl

bnw, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

And people actually do talk like that

i've never heard the album, or even heard of the band, but anyone who talks like this needs to have their mouth privileges revoked:

"...fucked-up bumblebee/ Headed for the potpourri...You turn me on so with your bee-sting lips/ And your pepper-grinder hips/ Like a thread in the needle/ We're just typical people"

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

is it just me or is it a a bit weird that pfork runs a long review of the new amadou & mariam album (one that longs for more sounds of their homeland) without the slightest mention of the military coup currently taking place in mali?

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16435-folila/

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

i mean i dont expect more than a passing reference but it seems to say... something... about... something. i dunno.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

tbh Mark I wouldn't have even heard about the coup myself were it not for ____.

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh sorry I meant s1ocki

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

me neither! but i'm not writing a long article about malian music either...

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

haha i didnt even notice.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

I can't think of any easy way to comment on a two-week old coup within a review that mentions Jake Shears and TVOTR guest spots.

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno, it just seems to say something about how little context we get with our global supermarket of pop music, fwiw

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

its also somewhat possible that the review was written before the coup began

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

so what, it was published today

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, it's a bit weird. but no more than that.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

i think the drop-down for coup announcements is in the "news" tab.

like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

so what, it was published today

uh, good observation. i mean, you expect pitchfork to go back and have their pop music review tweaked to incorporate current world events?

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

yes, if i was the editor, i would prob do that so as to not seem completely clueless

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

people don't say irl in person!
― bnw, Friday, March 23, 2012 1:26 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

I say i.r.l. IRL but I also kinda suck.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

lol u guys

H3LP, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

uh, good observation. i mean, you expect pitchfork to go back and have their pop music review tweaked to incorporate current world events?

this is what's known as par for the course in most professional publications

lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

^^^

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, it's a bit weird. but no more than that.

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol well since you've rendered judgement

D-40, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

what if ... it IS a bit more than that? :O

D-40, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

there is utterly no reason to pick contenderizer's post out of that whole exchange other than your weird thing w/ contenderizer

Austerity Bronies (some dude), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

it's sort of reassuring, though

hi, deej

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

this is what's known as par for the course in most professional publications

I completely agree! I'm just saying that I find it a little weird to start expecting this out of Pitchfork, of all places.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

there is utterly no reason to pick contenderizer's post out of that whole exchange other than your weird thing w/ contenderizer

― Austerity Bronies (some dude), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:53 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think its funny how hes constantly reassuring ppl that nothing is actually problematic or racist or offensive or sexist or etc. etc. -- seems like hes doing a lot of minimizing all the time

D-40, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

dude, if you ever bothered to think for a moment about anything you read/type, you'd realize that i spend a fuck of a lot of time on ILX calling out shit as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. way more so than most posters. you've just decided to make a big psycho issue out of this because i don't always agree with you.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

I love how dick-waving on ILX essentially amounts to who can call the most people racist

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

shit, frogs, i'm not even proud of the fact. it's like a tic with me. posted a big sexism bitch on the rolling stones poll thread yesterday, then sort of wished i hadn't, funcrusher.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

lol oops

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

Might be a bit off topic but I have wondered if members of Tinariwen and Terakaft might be involved in the fighting in Mali.

badg, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:01 (twelve years ago) link

i have not

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:09 (twelve years ago) link

xpost

I've thought about that too. I don't really know exactly how closely connected they are to the guerillas, but I've gotte the impression it's pretty close. Wouldn't be too surprising if they are involved I guss...

And Contenderizer: Thanks for sharing that important piece of information..

Mule, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 07:57 (twelve years ago) link

hey, twice in one thread! go ilx.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:15 (twelve years ago) link

I have no problem with your comment upthread, really. I kinda agree, with you actually. You could have corroborated your point, but no biggie.. But badg asked an interesting question, and you kinda took a shit at it, which is not so cool.

That's all really.. If you think it's funny that people are puzzled by your contrubutions then ok, I guess..

Mule, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

Disregard the comma after "agree"..

Mule, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

ah, i was just kidding - and serious, too! idea had seriously never occurred to me. tone i was shooting for was more "lighthearted nonsense" than "shitting on", but things get weird on the inernet #58 billion...

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

There's no thread for Cokemachinegloe sadly, so I'll post in here. Linked their review of the Julia Holter album to a mate on Twitter...having seen that my twitter bio states that I'm a retail assistant, which I am, the review had this to say to us: "I guess we should let the "retail assistants" of the world decide what's good, eh? True authority speaking there." followed by, "We'll work on dumbing down our reviews a little for our blue collar readers...."

Oh dear.

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link


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