WHAT A DRAG IT IS GETTING POLLED – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones (Extended deadline: April 1st)

Ideally I'd do a top forty, then strip out the singles and submit the rest, but too many of those standards are undeniable. The thought of not voting for Saint Of Me is giving me a cold sweat.

"Try A Little Harder" is a jam, love that echo at the end when the song sounds like it's falling apart.

Might have to sit this one out, feeling like my list would be particularly useless for the Stones (unless I spend hours relistening to albums). Will be really excited to see the results though.

re. standards, right now I feel like I gotta vote for "Gimme Shelter", "Paint It, Black", & "Sympathy", but I'm relistening & those'll be the ones to fall should I rate anything higher. Or else I'll cut "Lady Jane", which is a standard too I guess.

not gonna cut "Brown Sugar" though

will definitely vote "saint of me" over "brown sugar," though I have no idea if either will make my final cut

Out of curiosity, what is the logic behind not voting standards? Is it so the results are more varied?

in my case I'm seeing the PS poll with a bunch of standards, & it's not so interesting to me to know which of those are highly rated & which aren't; when I've found these polls interesting it's b/c of less prominent songs that have been rated highly (the Pavement poll was useful to me this way; so was the Blur poll). Since I know the Stones pretty well I want to do my part to make this happen; it'll probably end with unsatisfaction but w/e.

goddam that was brutal. maybe the most time and effort i've ever put into a single-artist poll vote? wound up stacking my top 10 with personal favorites i hope to nudge into the bottom of the countdown, saved the bigger singles for the lower half of my ballot. early 70s heavily represented, w three from exile and four from goat's head soup. also a bunch of stuff from '67, between the buttons and satanic majesties. only two songs post '73, one from emotional rescue, one from tattoo you. nothing from sticky fingers.

suspect that few of my votes will make the cut :(

could have voted for the last 20 songs i cut from my ballot almost as happily

haw, this is going to be hard. might just pick 10 from the 60s, 10 fro the 70s? don't think i'd vote for anything past that.

i'd like to put in a good word for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LNmR5Ja1sc

^ good one!

I could happily put the whole disc 3 of the Singles Collection for half my ballot.

lemme know if you don't get my ballot(s), rogermexico (sent my album votes as a separate message).

while we're boosterizing, i'd like to put in a word for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt37Fj1U5iM

^ their "venus in furs" moment

I'm not sure yet, but this might be somewhere near the end of my list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlsudiYhn4

Twee Stones Poll

a fav Stones thread of mine

Out of curiosity, what is the logic behind not voting standards? Is it so the results are more varied?

Yeah a bit, not that one ballot will make much difference. Also it's that I love a lot of things pretty much equally, and if I don't vote for Satisfaction it'll still make it, but if I don't vote for Ventilator Blues it probably won't.

^ yeah, that was my thinking. pushed hard for the things i'd love to see make the countdown, but suspect won't. figure "you can't always get what you want" will do fine without my help.

listening to Dirty Work right now & think what's hard for me is Mick's voice; he's more shouty than I'd like. The songs are fast & direct, Keith's playing sounds great, the melodies are sharp, but Mick sounds almost hoarse. It's the voice he has on "Start Me Up" too, but it seems worse here.

I can imagine their equivalent of "Hey Jude" failing to make it, like in the Beatles Poll...

I didn't think I would vote for stuff like Satisfaction or Jumpin Jack Flash, but as I listen to them in amongst the things I think I *will* vote for, I've been surprised by how hard it is to say 'eh I could live without it'. Satisfaction came on while I was driving home last night and after I really took the time to listen and not just tune it out, I was saying to myself, 'you know, I've heard this song a thousand times but it's really fucking great."

I'm probably just being insecute. But like with the Paul Simon poll ppl are like "ugh these are the worst results ever" when popular songs rank more highly than the deep cuts. And it's kind of nuts to me. Paul Simon was a GREAT songwriter. He had a TON of popular songs.

The Stones are prolific. They're not a band that noodled around with only a couple of recognizable hits and left all their best stuff on 5 albums no-one heard. Half their material was popular, ubiquitous stuff. That's a GOOD thing! That's why we're still talking about them after what, 40 or 50 years. I guess I just get intimidated by all the deep cuts, like I'm going to be the rube voter who ruins it for everyone, lol.

I dunno. I'm tired, I need more coffee. I like the process and I love participating in the polls I've joined in on after years of lurking. I'll try not to get intimidated :)

fuuuuuuuuck talk about tl;dr

sorry!

"insecute"?

new word

Hey, don't worry - those should be the meat of the poll! I love it when the odd deep cut turns up unexpectedly high, but only when it's one I like. I guess I'm hoping that one day mine will chime with the ILM collective unconscious.

It has to be random though - worst thing ever was on the metal poll, where the #1 was this lurked block vote thing that a lot of folk had never heard of.

like with the Paul Simon poll ppl are like "ugh these are the worst results ever" when popular songs rank more highly than the deep cuts. And it's kind of nuts to me...

OTM imo. Like, "American Tune" is deeply personally important to me, but "Graceland" absolutely transcends and there's nothing wrong with that.

The Stones are prolific. They're not a band that noodled around with only a couple of recognizable hits and left all their best stuff on 5 albums no-one heard. Half their material was popular, ubiquitous stuff.

I'm not sure about this. I'm still amazed by how many people in the general population base their entire notion of the Stones on HOT ROCKS. And you, like, give them a copy of STICKY FINGERS or LET IT BLEED and they're like "whoa, i had no idea."

ps and thank you for the tl;dr -- kinda hearkens back to the old days. ou sont les kogans d'antan?

I'm still amazed by how many people in the general population base their entire notion of the Stones on HOT ROCKS.

I have a feeling none of those people will be voting in this poll, LOL

haha. on which note:

Taking Sides: Let It Bleed VS. Sticky Fingers

tbf hot rocks is one of the best greatest hits comps ever. xp

xxxpost that is a good point rog, re HOT ROCKS; Exile was the first Stones album I heard in full and it completely changed the way I felt about them after only really knowing their hits. So I take that part back :D

yeah, i love reading long, thoughtful posts, so no worries, VG.

I didn't think I would vote for stuff like Satisfaction or Jumpin Jack Flash, but as I listen to them in amongst the things I think I *will* vote for, I've been surprised by how hard it is to say 'eh I could live without it'. Satisfaction came on while I was driving home last night and after I really took the time to listen and not just tune it out, I was saying to myself, 'you know, I've heard this song a thousand times but it's really fucking great."

oh yeah, i never even considered cutting "satisfaction". for a while, i thought it might be my #1. emphasizing beloved deep cuts is one thing, but i'm not crazy.

and "insecute" is a great word :)

tbf hot rocks is one of the best greatest hits comps ever. xp

― tylerw, Friday, March 23, 2012 10:23 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh, there were people on the beach boys poll that pretty much stuck to the early stripey shirt hits because that's all they know. it's totally fine if people want to do that but i favor the "true heads only" approach

re hot rocks: it's 21 tracks, and i love every song on it. cut any one song at random and you'd have a perfectly respectable ballot. only five of those tracks made my final cut, but i'm rooting hard for the underdogs.

based on early balloting i think it's safe to say this is going to be a high-beta poll. might even be possible, when it's all over, to find at least two ballots with zero overlap. so go ahead and vote yr hearts and let the chips fall where they may.

but what the hell, let's talk deep cuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oExTf5jIVoM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih5dbyZoIF0

i think the rolling stones are my favorite rock band. no one else really comes close in terms of quality, variety + quantity.

yeah, i tried for ages to find a way to cut "star star", mostly so i wouldn't have such a ridiculously goats head heavy ballot, but i just couldn't do it. love that song to death.

soundgarden not doing that song any favors

semi-deep cut under consideration for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwu0MQrk_ec
one of my fave stones ballads. kinda autopilot stones, but great nonetheless. lovvvvve the "wish i was out in california" lyric.

^^ disagree on autopilot stones and expect it on my ballot. mick and mick really worked well together (cf. "Sway")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5lMad5NEB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRt3jJAT-NQ

damn youtube previews -- that's Lindsey Buckingham on "I Am Waiting" and it's quite lovely

xp well, by autopilot i mean it sorta seems like the band was like "wot, we need another ballad? alrightee." and then they knock it out of the park. seems effortless.

oh SHIT I left "Sway" off my ballot! ARrrgg!

winter's good, but it's the one goats head track i had under consideration that i did eventually cut. lot of stones ballads i like better.

i mean, sway's better, and i cut that too, no regrets

"Star Star" in contention for my ballot; "Stray Cat Blues" vying for my top spot with "I Am Waiting" (which I didn't realize had been featured in a popular film until a clip was posted recently; the song's been one of my favorites for a long time but I'm not much for films)

"Sway" will be high on mine too

we are in the groove now!