rolling buried alive in china 2012

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I think there's a really nice 'prison' they send officials convicted of corruption to, it's like a minimum security hotel

dayo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

no idea but... this is a pretty common occurrence, i think. the tanks rumour, i mean. and weibo just amplifies it...

dylannn, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i sure haven't seen anything solid enough. bo xilai is not taking zhongnanhai by force.

dylannn, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:18 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah it seemed highly improbable to me. but I don't know who's the CiC of china's military forces. or how the military is structured at all, even.

dayo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:20 (five years ago) Permalink

hk politics is a mystery to me, really... Only 1,193 people are eligible to vote in the election, as representatives of various sectors of society. and i'm not sure where to go to try to follow it. but this is interesting, beijing throwing their support behind leung chunying.

dylannn, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:04 (five years ago) Permalink

hah yeah. there's also this

hmmmmm, wonder who these 'hackers' were, it's a 'big mystery'

dayo, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:07 (five years ago) Permalink

In China's Chongqing, dismay over downfall of Bo Xilai, this kind of thing... a reporter wanders around chongqing, and we learn that luggage carriers and fruit vendors are sort of unaware of the realities of local politics: "well, he must have done SOME good stuff, right?" and then he quotes some guy from UTOPIA.

but here's a localish view of chongqing under bo basically questioning the view of bo as populist/head of successful local government. pretty good.

dylannn, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:21 (five years ago) Permalink

dylannn, Sunday, 25 March 2012 09:27 (five years ago) Permalink

sounds like a bourne movie!

dayo, Monday, 26 March 2012 11:45 (five years ago) Permalink

look at this

dylannn, Friday, 30 March 2012 08:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i find it a bit hard to follow, maybe because i never saw the chongqing model or bo xilai as being interested in "dragging the Communist Party back toward its most radical, lawless past."

i saw bo xilai as a vaguely liberal figure, despite the singing of communist anthems or whatever. i knew leftwing fringe guys were into bo xilai but was there that much of the far left about him? i know him for the development of dalian, heading economic development in dongbei (by tearing down shitty state owned enterprises, setting up special econ zones, hammering out foreign investment deals), minister of commerce (he pops up lots in canadian politics because chretien went straight to him, and so did harper very recently).... now the guardian has a headline referring to him as a neo-maoist (to me the red songs were basically valueless, i think-- a nationalistic teambuilding exercise that didn't have a lot to do with collectivism or, like, resisting american imperialism).

dylannn, Saturday, 31 March 2012 02:26 (five years ago) Permalink

It remains far from clear whether the Communist Party's webs of patronage and knots of financial and bureaucratic interests can be reformed. But with China's leftist movement decapitated by the purge of Bo Xilai, and Bo's critics now talking about his reign of "red terror" after daily revelations of political and physical brutality under his command, Wen has begun to win over some of his many detractors.

"In the past I did not have a fully positive view of Wen Jiabao, because he said a lot of things but didn't deliver," says a leading media figure with lifelong connections to China's leadership circle. "Now I realize just to be able to say it, that's important. To speak up, let the whole world know that he could not achieve anything because he was strangled by the system."

what system strangled wen jiabao? didn't he shotcall the downfall of bo xilai? why can't he address some of the other things he's been speaking up about? what about the recent speech mentioning "financial inequality, lack of credibility, and corruption"? can we deal with some of those things?

dylannn, Saturday, 31 March 2012 02:35 (five years ago) Permalink

I think the_west is very interested in reading the tea leaves in a favorable way

tbh I'm not gonna get too hung up on the ousting of someone who bought his son ferraris

very interested to get to the bottom of this british businessman's death

dayo, Saturday, 31 March 2012 03:04 (five years ago) Permalink

i guess my reaction is that i don't see bo xilai as being too far off the party's ideological bullseye. he was nationalistic, was down for the party at all costs (he was supposedly pretty enthusiastic about carrying out the order to shut down falun gong), saw economic growth as the ticket to stability (starting with direct foreign investment and later nurturing chinese consumer market, chinese econ sovereignty etc). he was pretty good at playing popular opinion wherever he landed. in chongqing, he knew it was corruption, urban-rural residency, "morality," shit like that. and he just kind of got caught flexing in the mirror at just the wrong time by someone with slightly more pull. neo-maoist, hardly.

and i've ridden in more ferraris than i could count bought for kids by parents far less wealthy than bo xilai. he hasn't driven it into anyone yet or strangled a ktv girl yet, either. cut the kid some slack. what's his name? guagua or something?

dylannn, Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:09 (five years ago) Permalink


dylannn, Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:12 (five years ago) Permalink

l: 2
r: 4

dylannn, Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:14 (five years ago) Permalink


dylannn, Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:32 (five years ago) Permalink

i think this is good.

First, Bo was more an opportunist than an ideologue. To the extent there was a “Chongqing model,” it was largely self-serving: As a big-city mayor and former provincial governor, Bo knew that higher gross domestic product and foreign direct investment were what won attention and plaudits, and he did his best to boost both. He favored state-owned enterprises because that’s where the money was.

dylannn, Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:33 (five years ago) Permalink

i guess my reaction is that i don't see bo xilai as being too far off the party's ideological bullseye. he was nationalistic, was down for the party at all costs

well maybe the ideology is changing! that would be good, I think. but I mean you can spin it the other way and portray bo as a guy who left chongqing with a ton of debt and got in hot water by going after 'corruption' which means people who are well connected with the state.

wish I had a couple mil to buy up some HK property for cheap

dayo, Saturday, 31 March 2012 12:18 (five years ago) Permalink

that's a pretty big story in vancouver since they're behind lots of high profile
developments @ coal harbour, ubc, richmond
and juust like in hong kong, real estate is a great passion in vancouver (esp richmond)

In Vancouver, the Kwok brothers, through their Canadian subsidiary, Aspac Developments Ltd., are best known for transforming Coal Harbour into a prestigious waterfront neighbourhood, with the Harbour Green luxury condo towers.

Waterfront Place, Aspac’s first Coal Harbour development, was completed in September 2003. Each of the five towers was named after a famous European city: Avila, Bauhinia, Cascina, Denia and Escala.

In Richmond, the Kwoks are involved in the new urban low-rise waterfront community called River Green, which is being developed on the banks of the Fraser River near the Olympic Oval and the Vancouver International Airport.

At UBC, the tycoon brothers are behind the 17-storey highrise called The Wesbrook on the edge of Pacific Spirit Regional Park.

dylannn, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:14 (five years ago) Permalink

i drive by the river green development everytime i cross the bridge from richmond to sea island/yvr
wonder what the status on it is now

dylannn, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:15 (five years ago) Permalink

oh also

Urine-soaked eggs a spring taste treat in China city

would definitely try those

dylannn, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:15 (five years ago) Permalink

dylannn, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:36 (five years ago) Permalink


dayo, Friday, 6 April 2012 11:32 (five years ago) Permalink

qingming jokes




吴琼花问: 姐妹们都翻身得解放了吗?

扬子荣问:土匪都剿灭了 吗?

杨白劳问:地主都消灭了 么?

雷锋问:那 资本家呢?



dylannn, Sunday, 8 April 2012 22:12 (five years ago) Permalink

sorry let me get back on track

eleanor wachtel w chan koonchung talking about the fat years

an interesting guy. interesting conversation.
(book is sorta weak to me. even weaker old fashioned-y english translation by decrepit weirdo michael duke)

dylannn, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 11:00 (five years ago) Permalink

fuck, i shouldn't call him a decrepit weirdo, even if i meant it in a nice way. michael duke is a legit o.g. in the world of chinese literature and has a deep knowledge of the field and i treasure my time spent with him CHIN412 in buchanan building lecture halls madly jotting down notes in an indecipherable mixture of traditionalsimplified characters and pinyin trying to soak up some genius or trying to keep up while butting into a conversation between him and yu hua.

but his translations are creaky and dull

dylannn, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 11:10 (five years ago) Permalink

dylannnn I'm not big on chinese lit on general, but thought you might find this interesting

swaghand (dayo), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 12:09 (five years ago) Permalink

hey, bo, where you wanna go?

swaghand (dayo), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:14 (five years ago) Permalink

lai changxing, smuggler, pimp and folk hero, subject of the great book inside the red mansion, who made it to canada and had a good run before being kicked out and sent back to china with a promise not to kill him...

going on trial
in xiamen

dylannn, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:30 (five years ago) Permalink

dayo, Thursday, 19 April 2012 11:06 (five years ago) Permalink

china is like a bunch of 12 year olds arguing whether the ps3 or the xbox360 is better xp

dayo, Thursday, 19 April 2012 11:07 (five years ago) Permalink

right. this is pretty absurd.

taking it serious for a second...

Social Networks: Facebook > Kaixin > Renren > Tencent Pengyou

u on any of these these dyao? i was surprised that facebook is like the one site that people are willing to bother downloading freegate for (FG same initials as its #1 moneygiver FAL** GO** and the u.s. state department i think). i sort of just set it aside until i realized everyone i knew was on it (that was under 35 and prob wealthy + spoke english). i checked out renren and kaixin but hated both. and i actually like qq pengyou because it has the qq userbase
just like weixin
which is the most necessary thing to have on your mobile device in china (love the LOOK AROUND feature).

Cell Phones: Blackberry > Apple > Xiaomi > HTC > Samsung > Sony Ericsson > Nokia > Motorola > Lenovo > ZTE > shanzhai mobile phones

mannnnnnnnnn... i don't even know what xiaomi is. blackberry shouldn't be on there. htc is a step above shanzhai. apple is #1 for sure. samsung is #2, i think! nexus is def widely coveted and snobbish.

Fast Fashion: Topshop > Zara > H&M > Forever 21 > Vera Moda > Metersbonwe/Yishion/Bossini.
needs uniqlo

dylannn, Sunday, 22 April 2012 08:01 (five years ago) Permalink

hey u guys think shen congwen ever banged ding ling?

the granta CHINA WEEK was boring. never want to read another interview with mo yan again.

dylannn, Sunday, 22 April 2012 08:03 (five years ago) Permalink

not on any of the chinese ones, but a lot of my friends are on renren, and of course everybody has QQ + weibo

everybody in HK is on facebook

dayo, Sunday, 22 April 2012 11:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Is HK firewalled?

hot slag (lukas), Sunday, 22 April 2012 20:00 (five years ago) Permalink


dayo, Sunday, 22 April 2012 20:03 (five years ago) Permalink

that's why redirects to

dayo, Sunday, 22 April 2012 20:04 (five years ago) Permalink

harvard must be thrilled at the uptick in web traffic

dayo, Thursday, 26 April 2012 10:31 (five years ago) Permalink

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dayo, Thursday, 26 April 2012 10:35 (five years ago) Permalink

so ah chen guangcheng escaped??

dayo, Friday, 27 April 2012 11:06 (five years ago) Permalink

so should i read The Fat Years?

Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 02:44 (five years ago) Permalink

what else do you have to do?

dylannn, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:05 (five years ago) Permalink

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